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Oldham v Charlton - Post match views - Feb 2017

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  • Taking just two points from Fleetwood, MKD and now Oldham speaks for itself. The club is rotten to the core from owner downwards. After 59 years, I think my time is up. I detest RD and KM for what they have done. I hope they are proud of themselves. Please just go away.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,060

    We played tonight???? Thanks to roland I couldnt give much of a toss

    We always see comments like this shortly after the final whistle of every match we lose (or draw).

    Odd.
  • cafckev
    cafckev Posts: 2,915

    Just you negative Nancys wait till the summer transfer window, we'll come good.

    One or two marquee signings and we will be fine.....we will take league 2 at a stroll
  • Leuth said:

    useless Robbo NOT GOOD ENOUGH

    we're lose 1-0 this time not even 1-1 pathetic

    Called it mate, well done
  • Sounds like the January transfer budget was blown on bacon rolls.
  • E=mc2
    E=mc2 Posts: 311
    The club has no more heart. Oh and Robinson - you talk too much :I
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421

    Sounds like the January transfer budget was blown on bacon rolls.

    Well to be fair, I don't mind that.
    Brown sauce though.

  • Crofts said a couple of weeks ago we have 18 cup finals I must say the first 2 have been very impressive!
  • Laddick01 said:

    Would just love to hear the views of those who still defend the morons running this club.

    I don't think if i could handle listening to anyone defending them anymore without screaming

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  • All not lost. None of bottom 4 won.

    Just eff off Douchebag and squirrel face.
  • clb74 said:

    Apologies to anyone i might upset.
    But if you think that we have any chance of ever getting promotion under these cnuts you need to see a doctor fucking quick

    Must say Steve if we don't get 3 points Saturday don't think we will make top 6
    No wonder you two bottle jobs would not have that bet with me over Christmas!!
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,605
    edited February 2017
    It was a strange starting line up, Holmes on the bench and the kid from Arsenal making his professional debut.....

    There just aren't enough goals in the team. For all the tricks how many has Watt scored in the last few years....

    Watt 11 goals in circa 75 games.
    Magennis 26 goals in circa 225 games
    Novak 26 goals in circa 115 games
    Holmes 22 goals in circa 115 games

    You've then got;
    Da Silva with about 4 pro games to his name, 1 goal
    Mavididi debut tonight,
    Aribo 0 goals 11 games
    Crofts highest appearances this season, 1 goal and a record of around 36 goals in over 400 games,
    Botaka hasn't scored for years, never scored for us never scored for leeds 100+ career games 11 goals
    Chicksen 3 careers goals since 2008 (130+ games)
    Solly 2 career goals in 200+ appearances
    Bauer 13 career goals in around 150 games
    Konsa 0 goals around 28 games
    Forster-Caskey 9 goals in around 115 games

    So based on those stats, where is more than one goal a game coming from?

    Total, around 160 goals in around 1700 games.

    It's lucky the defence is fairly tight or we'd be relegation fodder.
  • markmc68
    markmc68 Posts: 1,593
    We had better get to 50 points before we even consider the play offs.
  • Laddick01 said:

    Would just love to hear the views of those who still defend the morons running this club.

    I've said before, it's simply perverse to even attempt to defend what they've done and continue to do to OUR club.
    But there are a some stupid, small-minded people who put there own self-interest and personal grievances before the future of the club.

    Whatever it takes, we need to force this vile regime out and restore the heart and soul of OUR great club.
  • se9addick said:

    We played tonight???? Thanks to roland I couldnt give much of a toss

    We always see comments like this shortly after the final whistle of every match we lose (or draw).

    Odd.
    I literally jumped onto my phone and saw post match thread, want to jump on my back to while you are at it??
  • iamdan
    iamdan Posts: 2,421
    Absolute stats!
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,827

    clb74 said:

    Apologies to anyone i might upset.
    But if you think that we have any chance of ever getting promotion under these cnuts you need to see a doctor fucking quick

    Must say Steve if we don't get 3 points Saturday don't think we will make top 6
    No wonder you two bottle jobs would not have that bet with me over Christmas!!
    Gonna take an even money bet when I can get 5/1
  • Interestingly I think the worm has turned on the other forum.

    Nah once they realise we are agreeing on something, it'll all change!

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,429

    Interestingly I think the worm has turned on the other forum.

    Was only a matter of time.

    KR was never getting all the signings he needed, even with the Lookman money coming in.

    He wants to play an attacking passing game with a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 - for that to work you need the right players. We don't have a proper number 10/playmaker and we don't have enough goals in the team.

    RD will eventually run out of patience and sack KR.

    All so predictable. Nothing at all to suggest it'll be any different after another transfer window.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,759
    edited February 2017
    It is a problem that clubs at any level can face, It is about numbers. Now not every player is going to be a goal scorer, but you need goals in the team - when you don't have prolific strikers the goals have to come from elsewhere. So first thing - Tex or Konsa - Konsa is a great prospect but not yet a goalscorer - we know Tex knows where the goal is - as we don't have the goals elsewhere that is an opportunity to increase your likliehood to score a fraction. You have to do that throughout the team. Holmes has scored a reasonable amount of goals in relation to his position and starts - so if you don't have the goals elsewhere you have to start him.

    Of course what you are doing is increasing your percentages - but you need enough players to inject goals into the side. We are short of them so Tex and Holmes have to be the first names on the teamsheet and neither started! To be honest - goals cost money and lots of clubs at this level have a similar issue - But we are one of them which is depressing.

    I think Robinson is an attacking manager and call on him to be a bit ruthless - it might mean dropping players who in one sense don't deserve to be dropped, but if they don't score the goals or create the chances - statistics matter - then you need to find players that can. That isn't to say they won't in the future but goals are needed.

    England had the same issue in the Euros - level is irrelevant as it is all relative. Hodgson found a solution by overloading the team with strikers for the second half against Wales. An act of desperation, yes, but a necessity. Unfortuantely he then decides to play his best team, but if your best team don't have goals it isn't your best team!

    Whilst we were not inspiring the match stats back this up. We had 57% possession - 11 shots (5 on target) to their 4 (3 on target). We had 16 corners to their 4. These are stats that warrant a 2-0 or 2-1 victory.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,888
    edited February 2017
    Listened on 94.9 radio. (Can't remember the last time Charlton were live on the radio & won).

    Magennis through on goal but doesn't score in the first minute. Oldham put their chance away. Charlton not so great first half. Commentator midway said Charlton were not able to keep hold of the ball or retain possession & would be advised to stand firm at the back, & make sure they don"t concede & get o half time, so they can reorganise. Against Oldham ffs.

    Second half a lot better, but failed to score, some good saves, sounded like a clear penalty turned down but Oldham sounded more likely to score at the end. Another disappointing result. Unsurprising given the shambolic way the club is run & the team is constantly reshaped & thrown together, as others have mentioned above. Play offs looking a long way off.
  • Highlight was the topless Oldham teen (male, calm down guys) bouncing around for 90mins with his phone light on.

    His mum will be furious when he comes down with a cold tomorrow.

    The palace style enormous ultra flags look hilarious in an empty stadium too.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,362
    Apologist here

    Reading the match thread it looked like we battered them, missed loads of good chances, keeper had a stormer, stonewall penalty denied. We've clearly played much worse this season and drawn 1-1.

    A fully firing Magennis and we win that one without much difficulty imo - we've just been very unlucky and Robinson hasn't had the chance to build the squad he wants. It's important he's given the summer to do so.

    Short-termist 'THE CLUB IS DEAD', 'KR IS TOAST' bulls**t is not helping anyone. The club is being ineptly run, sure, but given our squad, resources etc I think we've hit our floor. The only way really is up.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,506
    He's got to play Watt and Magennis together at Rochdale.
  • It is a problem that clubs at any level can face, It is about numbers. Now not every player is going to be a goal scorer, but you need goals in the team - when you don't have prolific strikers the goals have to come from elsewhere. So first thing - Tex or Konsa - Konsa is a great prospect but not yet a goalscorer - we know Tex knows where the goal is - as we don't have the goals elsewhere that is an opportunity to increase your likliehood to score a fraction. You have to do that throughout the team. Holmes has scored a reasonable amount of goals in relation to his position and starts - so if you don't have the goals elsewhere you have to start him.

    Of course what you are doing is increasing your percentages - but you need enough players to inject goals into the side. We are short of them so Tex and Holmes have to be the first names on the teamsheet and neither started! To be honest - goals cost money and lots of clubs at this level have a similar issue - But we are one of them which is depressing.

    I think Robinson is an attacking manager and call on him to be a bit ruthless - it might mean dropping players who in one sense don't deserve to be dropped, but if they don't score the goals or create the chances - statistics matter - then you need to find players that can. That isn't to say they won't in the future but goals are needed.

    England had the same issue in the Euros - level is irrelevant as it is all relative. Hodgson found a solution by overloading the team with strikers for the second half against Wales. An act of desperation, yes, but a necessity. Unfortuantely he then decides to play his best team, but if your best team don't have goals it isn't your best team!

    Whilst we were not inspiring the match stats back this up. We had 57% possession - 11 shots (5 on target) to their 4 (3 on target). We had 16 corners to their 4. These are stats that warrant a 2-0 or 2-1 victory.

    But the goal stats trump everything else.

  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,378
    edited February 2017
    Weak in the air from the start and they pumped everything long and airborne .. after a few minutes a Konsa mistake, an accurate shot, 0-1 and there it stayed (they also hit the post from yet another aerial attack) ..
    despite our umpteen corners, weak shots, missed chances, good goal keeping on their part we never really looked like scoring .. something indefinable yet vital is missing from our team and our whole approach ..

    we took oh so long to get going probably because of a muddled selection from the start .. Botaka, Mavididi but no Watt or Holmes ?? .. all in all little passion, void of ideas, just cannot score and made to look mugs by a pretty ordinary but hard working and tenacious Oldham outfit ..
    I have a ticket for Saturday and have paid for a hotel for the week, otherwise I would give Rochdale a wide miss to avoid more embarrassment .. If we play like this they'll muller us .. what's happened to the spirit we showed at Bolton ?

    MOM ? Bauer, the best of a poor bunch .. Gerrard, Stevie's cousin, was outstanding for them .. I am sick of giving our players and management the benefit of the doubt .. wake the fuck up and get stuck in or fuck off

  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,759
    edited February 2017
    The problem is - we sold Lookman and Fox! in the window - I honestly believe £2m of that money could have changed things. Look what Powell was able to do with the Jenkinson money! Ok it isn't my money, but the problem isn't rocket science and we must lose more than £2m playing at this level. We do have some of the best players in this division, but are pathetically shy of scorers rather than missers!