Jimmy Seed's grandson's condemnation of the regime

DOC64 said:

twiggyaddick said:

That charlton bit.on facebook is really full of helmets, rrad one thread and went numb in the head, perks belongs there

Don't do Twitter or FB. Care to elaborate?

I saw a thread where a bloke said he wanted to punch anyone singing anti-regime songs or anyone wearing "black and white, the pricks".

There is a very vitriolic anti-regime supporter on social media who was previously very active on here. If it is him responsible, I would venture to say that attitude would be very much confined to behind his computer screen!

twiggyaddick said:

DOC64 said:

twiggyaddick said:

That charlton bit.on facebook is really full of helmets, rrad one thread and went numb in the head, perks belongs there

Don't do Twitter or FB. Care to elaborate?

I saw a thread where a bloke said he wanted to punch anyone singing anti-regime songs or anyone wearing "black and white, the pricks".

Sounds like Nathan Prior.

Might petition the council to rename Floyd Road "Sue Parkes Way".

Seriously, though, what a vindictive and dim individual she is. Good on @jdmotion for his dignified response.

The point has been made on here, but this is about general maintenance. It seems ridiculous that the club would seek to do anything more than paint the sign or reprint a new one without anything bar possibly an announcement that the sign will be replaced or renovated. The sign is a tribute to Jimmy Seed, nobody else. That Sue Parkes suggests renaming the stand because of views Jim is perfectly entitled to hold is disrespectful and disgraceful. I am genuinely gobsmaked she made this comment. Lets hope a relative of Sam Bartram doesn't say anything negative about the regime or his statue might be toppled. That North Korea flag is so apt!

I had to comment. I bit my tongue reading she doesn't believe in strikes or protests. It is a human right and whilst there will be specific strikes and protests it is reasonable to disagree with (including our protest), to not believe in the principle is ridiculous. Maybe we should have kept sending young boys up chimneys FFS! Ghandi, the Civil rights movement in the US, the end of apertheid......I mean!!!!!!

Sue shouldn't say it, but she doesn't care about the history of the club.

Covered End said:

Bedsaddick said:

NorthStandUltra said:

Sue Perks suggesting that maybe the club should rename the Jimmy Seed stand after recent developments, she's an absolute piece of work this woman

Chris needs to grow a pair and shut her up . Fancy having a gobshite of a wife spouting bollocks constantly on public forums .
It's like she has torretes

If you've had the misfortune to meet Sue, I'll think you'll find it'd be impossible to shut her up.

Where there's a will ......... And there is a will ....

jdmotion said:

Thanks for your kind comments. I've tried to explain my reasons for my withdrawal here: http://jimmyseed.blogspot.co.uk/ (in case you haven't read it).

From Facebook:
Sue Parks: 'Shame his Grandson hasn't posted the correct info unless he is also blaming Tony Jiminez and Michael Slater. RD has only owned the club for 2yrs and 8 mths - not 4 years as he stated. Also RD is the owner. Katrien is not a shareholder. I think Malcolm could be right.' (Not sure what 'Malcolm' said).

Sue Parkes/Parks is correct, I did say 4 years. My mistake. As I've said, my return to the Charlton fold is very recent (and is partly because I'm working on a new book about JS). And I did say 'shareholders'. I meant to say, 'directors'. That was just a slip. I'm not sure why she thinks my slips ups are important.

I certainly wasn't blaming Michael Slater who I don't know and have never spoken to. Martin Simons, a previous chairman, gave my mother his home number and told her that if any of the family ever wanted to attended matches he would arrange it for us. This was when the family loaned the bronze bust of Jimmy Seed (previously on display in the foyer, now outside the boardroom) to the club. I was too reticent/embarrassed to take advantage of his kind offer, and my previous visits since then have been as a paying customer.

My original tweet about the JS stand sign being faded was actually quite lighthearted, and I was quite surprised when it received so much support, including from the Charlton Museum. I was more surprised when the club contacted me about it.
Anyway, I was probably a little naive for thinking I could get involved in the project without it being seen as political (probably by both sides). On reflection I should have stepped back and let them get on with it, and I wish I had.
But part of my motivation for involvement was maintaining the family connection. I'm trying to steer my 10 and 13 year old sons away from following their school friends who mainly support Chelsea or Arsenal. Can't think why.
I took Tommy (10) to the away game at Fulham in February. We sat in pouring rain. He wouldn't move to dry seats. He wouldn't leave early before half time to get in the queue for refreshments. He wouldn't leave early to avoid the crowds before full time. He wouldn't leave before every Charlton player had left the pitch. He was hooked, despite the 3-0 defeat. And his first visit to The Valley (2-0 v. Middlesbrough) confirmed it. I was glad we hadn't won both matches, it showed he was ready for the full Charlton experience!

I do understand why some at the club may be angry about my rather clumsy withdrawal. But there are things that make the fans feel angry too, and it's odd that club insiders can't understand that, considering events over the last two years and eight months. I think Sue's comments are an insight into the disconnect that exists between the club and the protesters. I've heard of a club insider calling them 'morons' and 'hooligans'. (You've probably heard all this before - apologies if so).

Having said that, I don't believe all is lost (unless RD's most vehement detractors are right). There are definitely signs that efforts are being made to move things in a better direction. Whether there truly is the will to carry this through remains to be seen.

Alright Jim lad. I'm in that Facebook group (not a collaborator) and actually confronted Sue on this. She used a classic Katrien tactic that was basically ignore the entire point of what had been written but pick up on a couple of things that were worded wrong on not technically correct. I asked her if she had any opinion on what had actually been said and she failed to reply.

What Malcom had said was 'I think he has been got at.... baaaaaa'

Of course the irony is that particular group is full of sheep that hang off every word of Sue and a couple others was completely lost on him. Basically there is me and one other who dare to disagree and I don't think it'll be long before we get kicked out. Still I'm Linda honoured to think that I he got to sue and hat my name is on her pinboard somewhere.

Another poster went on to suggest that a certain Mr Irving had gotten to you.

Thanks very much for the info and the support in the Forum, much appreciated. She sounds like a 6th form debating society bully to me. And not a very good one.

cantersaddick said:

Of course the irony is that particular group is full of sheep that hang off every word of Sue and a couple others was completely lost on him. Basically there is me and one other who dare to disagree and I don't think it'll be long before we get kicked out. Still I'm Linda honoured to think that I he got to sue and hat my name is on her pinboard somewhere.

Another poster went on to suggest that a certain Mr Irving had gotten to you.

My discussions there ended with one of the main group of six or seven accusing me of being a close friend/stooge of @Airman Brown (I admire his work but we have never knowingly met) as if that association renders any thoughts or arguments invalid. They are a poisonous little band.