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They found his driving licence during archeological dig in Jerusalem...bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
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Are you sure it didn't belong to Moses?Algarveaddick said:.
They found his driving licence during archeological dig in Jerusalem...bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
Moses came down the hill in his Triumph."
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Undisputed is perhaps too strong a word, but it is generally accepted by the vast majority of historians that there was a living person to which the name and life of Jesus of Nazareth can be attributed. This is due to the sheer number of independent sources that have been recorded from the time. Based on historical evidence alone there is far more proof of the existence of Jesus than many notable Ancient Romans who do not find their existence called into question. Historians who deny the existence of Jesus and certain events of his life (such as his baptism and crucifixion) are considered the controversial ones, not those who accept it as probable fact (probable being the key word). Obviously the verifiability of 'miracles' and other divine events are questionable as it would be in other sources (for example, otherwise reliable sources of events in Ancient Greece are trusted on their depiction of battles or events but their interpretation that Greek Gods took part in these battles through divine intervention is attributed to the general superstitious nature of Ancient era intellectuals who genuinely believed Poseidon's sea serpents took part in certain sea battles).bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
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To quote Jesus in John 12:49guinnessaddick said:
Are you sure it didn't belong to Moses?Algarveaddick said:.
They found his driving licence during archeological dig in Jerusalem...bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
Moses came down the hill in his Triumph."
"For I did not speak of my own Accord..."10 -
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And as that famous Psalm goes -Fiiish said:
To quote Jesus in John 12:49guinnessaddick said:
Are you sure it didn't belong to Moses?Algarveaddick said:.
They found his driving licence during archeological dig in Jerusalem...bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
Moses came down the hill in his Triumph."
"For I did not speak of my own Accord..."
"Jesus Christ, superstar, came down from heaven in a motor car....."0 -
Nice comprehensive response but what 'historical evidence' do you refer to? I don't want this to descend into a full on religious debate but you did originally say it was an undisputed fact, well I am disputing it but sadly from a position of almost total ignorance.... as I said earlier, just asking.....Fiiish said:
Undisputed is perhaps too strong a word, but it is generally accepted by the vast majority of historians that there was a living person to which the name and life of Jesus of Nazareth can be attributed. This is due to the sheer number of independent sources that have been recorded from the time. Based on historical evidence alone there is far more proof of the existence of Jesus than many notable Ancient Romans who do not find their existence called into question. Historians who deny the existence of Jesus and certain events of his life (such as his baptism and crucifixion) are considered the controversial ones, not those who accept it as probable fact (probable being the key word). Obviously the verifiability of 'miracles' and other divine events are questionable as it would be in other sources (for example, otherwise reliable sources of events in Ancient Greece are trusted on their depiction of battles or events but their interpretation that Greek Gods took part in these battles through divine intervention is attributed to the general superstitious nature of Ancient era intellectuals who genuinely believed Poseidon's sea serpents took part in certain sea battles).bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
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......on a Yamaha in my day.1StevieG said:
And as that famous Psalm goes -Fiiish said:
To quote Jesus in John 12:49guinnessaddick said:
Are you sure it didn't belong to Moses?Algarveaddick said:.
They found his driving licence during archeological dig in Jerusalem...bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
Moses came down the hill in his Triumph."
"For I did not speak of my own Accord..."
"Jesus Christ, superstar, came down from heaven in a motor car....."
Done a skid,
Killed a kid,
Cut off his bollocks with a dustbin lid.6 -
Almost entirely written records from the perspective of those living at the time, or those writing down what had been told to them as oral tradition was still prevalent. This is how a lot of history that we consider to be true has been discovered. There are well over a hundred independent sources documenting the life of Jesus within a few generations of his lifespan - due to the diversity of these sources, the chances of all these sources collaborating in some kind of conspiracy to perpetuate the life of a fictional man is more or less impossible.bexleyaddick said:
Nice comprehensive response but what 'historical evidence' do you refer to? I don't want this to descend into a full on religious debate but you did originally say it was an undisputed fact, well I am disputing it but sadly from a position of almost total ignorance.... as I said earlier, just asking.....Fiiish said:
Undisputed is perhaps too strong a word, but it is generally accepted by the vast majority of historians that there was a living person to which the name and life of Jesus of Nazareth can be attributed. This is due to the sheer number of independent sources that have been recorded from the time. Based on historical evidence alone there is far more proof of the existence of Jesus than many notable Ancient Romans who do not find their existence called into question. Historians who deny the existence of Jesus and certain events of his life (such as his baptism and crucifixion) are considered the controversial ones, not those who accept it as probable fact (probable being the key word). Obviously the verifiability of 'miracles' and other divine events are questionable as it would be in other sources (for example, otherwise reliable sources of events in Ancient Greece are trusted on their depiction of battles or events but their interpretation that Greek Gods took part in these battles through divine intervention is attributed to the general superstitious nature of Ancient era intellectuals who genuinely believed Poseidon's sea serpents took part in certain sea battles).bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
This has nothing to do with religion, it is purely historical. I also wasn't the one who said it was an undisputed fact.0 -
Ask a historian then or Google it! Jesus existed. If you cannot accept that then you may as well question the existence of everybody in history over 120 years ago when there are no living witnesses. As I said in my OP, all questions of his powers and pedigree are questionable but he lived, it is an undisputed historical fact by the majority of historians.bexleyaddick said:
Nice comprehensive response but what 'historical evidence' do you refer to? I don't want this to descend into a full on religious debate but you did originally say it was an undisputed fact, well I am disputing it but sadly from a position of almost total ignorance.... as I said earlier, just asking.....Fiiish said:
Undisputed is perhaps too strong a word, but it is generally accepted by the vast majority of historians that there was a living person to which the name and life of Jesus of Nazareth can be attributed. This is due to the sheer number of independent sources that have been recorded from the time. Based on historical evidence alone there is far more proof of the existence of Jesus than many notable Ancient Romans who do not find their existence called into question. Historians who deny the existence of Jesus and certain events of his life (such as his baptism and crucifixion) are considered the controversial ones, not those who accept it as probable fact (probable being the key word). Obviously the verifiability of 'miracles' and other divine events are questionable as it would be in other sources (for example, otherwise reliable sources of events in Ancient Greece are trusted on their depiction of battles or events but their interpretation that Greek Gods took part in these battles through divine intervention is attributed to the general superstitious nature of Ancient era intellectuals who genuinely believed Poseidon's sea serpents took part in certain sea battles).bexleyaddick said:
Is it an undisputed fact? Can you please tell me where the evidence for this fact is then or who declared it an undisputed historical fact? Only asking......Riviera said:
There is nothing imaginary about Jesus. He existed, that is an undisputed historical fact. Whether he rose from the dead or was the son of God or even if there is a God, are questions up for debate.ValleyGary said:Why the rise from the dead of an imaginary man means I can't go and get some bits from Asda.
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His powers and pedigree are not questionable - They are all made up. This Jesus bloke was obviously a total lunatic.2
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People that when seeing an April Fools joke on a forum or twitter etc. have to comment "April Fools" or "What's the date?" immediately.
Either say nothing or play along.
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Blasphemer!cafcnick1992 said:His powers and pedigree are not questionable - They are all made up. This Jesus bloke was obviously a total lunatic.
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this both baffles and annoys me in equal measure every year. in fact I'm pretty sure I've posted about it on this thread at least twice beforestackitsteve said:People that when seeing an April Fools joke on a forum or twitter etc. have to comment "April Fools" or "What's the date?" immediately.
Either say nothing or play along.
what's the logic behind doing it? are people after a pat on the back for being so clever?
going back 5+ years there were some cracking April fools wind ups on t'internet with people playing along. it's just not possible anymore2 -
The bloke infront of me on the bus!
The prick must be in his 40's, balding on top with shoulder length hair, sat there with his adults scooter and chequered backpack like he's about to do stunts off the bus.
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The bloke behind me on the bus.
Twat keeps sniggering at my designer backpack and cool scooter.
Obviously jealous of my flowing long hair.
Get a life mate.14 -
It was said he changed water into wine, no big deal, I have often changed wine into watercafcnick1992 said:His powers and pedigree are not questionable - They are all made up. This Jesus bloke was obviously a total lunatic.
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Sorry mate - let me have a bit of fun ffs.cafcdave123 said:The bloke infront of me on the bus!
The prick must be in his 40's, balding on top with shoulder length hair, sat there with his adults scooter and chequered backpack like he's about to do stunts off the bus.
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Easy:ross1 said:
It was said he changed water into wine, no big deal,cafcnick1992 said:His powers and pedigree are not questionable - They are all made up. This Jesus bloke was obviously a total lunatic.
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I know, I remember when you could piss all over a brass and she found it kinkymarkwebb25 said:Paying for a piss
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Saturday night TV, it's awful. Especially The Voice, poor mans X Factor.
If I wanted karaoke on a Saturday night I'd get one from Argos.3 -
People who take their full trolleys to their cars in the supermarket car park, empty it into the car, and then are too effin lazy to walk the thing back to a trolley park about 10 yards away, so leave it in the middle of the Parking space for the next person to crash into...10
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Having a Saturday league game called off at 9am on a Saturday morning, because the opposition can't raise a side. At least give us a bit of notice you gits!1
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Any song that has it's own little dance or (worse still) contains dance instructions in the lyrics.0
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They probably had a couple of players tell them last minute?Ben18 said:Having a Saturday league game called off at 9am on a Saturday morning, because the opposition can't raise a side. At least give us a bit of notice you gits!
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People constantly moaning about ticket prices.0
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Yep, that's generally annoying.Fiiish said:.
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