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January Transfer Window (rumours + actuals)

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  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    The whole point of a recruitment department is that you pay them to find the underperforming and thus undervalued talents who can be molded into something better for the benefit of the club. You pair them up with solid pros like Lloyd Jones, Greg Docherty and Matty Godden on the pitch to get the best out of them.

    Otherwise we might as well let the fans vote on our next signings and end up with more Scott Frasers, Charlie Kirks and Freddie Ladapos.
    A lot of the signings that have failed, and been impressive signings for the fans.. Just haven't worked out! Freddie for me was the biggest disappointment, and he was someone the club chased for 2 years! 
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,042
    Ferryman said:
    Richard J said:
    I’d like us to make use of the loan market wisely instead of the injured players we’ve had the last few years. They can be the difference. Find another Cullen or Bielik. 
    Ironically the year before we took Bielik he had a loan spell at Walsall where he didn't play because he was permanently injured. I was reliably informed by Ketts who wrote Dr Kish that Arsenal allowed him to come to us completely free of charge because he needed to prove fitness. In that case it was a gamble which paid off 
    Paid off for them too after they then sold him for £9M.
    Did they ever get it? Derby went into administration after paying about £2m and Arsenal had to defer instalments. I know the rule in the football world is that all football debts have to be paid in full (while other creditors are lucky to get pennies in the pound), so I assume they did eventually but can’t confirm.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,555
    The whole point of a recruitment department is that you pay them to find the underperforming and thus undervalued talents who can be molded into something better for the benefit of the club. You pair them up with solid pros like Lloyd Jones, Greg Docherty and Matty Godden on the pitch to get the best out of them.

    Otherwise we might as well let the fans vote on our next signings and end up with more Scott Frasers, Charlie Kirks and Freddie Ladapos.
    The problem is our recruitment department keeps coming up with too many duds like the ones you have mentioned but there are many, many others over the tenure of the current incumbents. Of course you can’t get it right all the time but our recent success rate is very low.
  • Just a handful of glowing reviews about Etete on CardiffLife: 




    Just the kind of striker Scott loves. From the Championship - tick, scored very few goals -tick, overrated and overpriced - tick. Has such little ball control he barely looks like a park footballer, let alone a pro - tick. Imagine him and Ahadme up front to together, go Scott!
    Good job he don't chose the players then and its down to Jones
    Someone is telling you porkies.
    CM has said it and Jones has said it that was one of the main points he wanted before he joined hence the manager title and not head coach 
    Unfortunately, Scott is still there f@&£ing it up with his Mediocre signings - Until he’s gone, I can’t see  us signing decent players.  I wonder if he was behind the gassan signing? 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    In these matters you usually have a buyer and a seller.
    I believe there is an issue when the buyer is too weak/stupid/arrogant/ignorant/careless/deluded or bribed to resist the sales pitch.

  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    I really hope we find a place for Taylor. Imo, he’s one of our best players when played correctly in the right system. 
    He’s not better than Coventry though. I’d like us to keep him, but if we need to sell players to buy players, he might be one of the few players good enough to get some interest that don’t get in our first choice 11

    If selling Taylor means we can then add the 2 or 3 players we want then it might make sense 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    Still don't know why we aren't raiding Reading. Wing, Smith, Knibbs & Bindon all quality and must be cheaper than some other options due to the state Reading are in. It's sad their situation but it didn't stop clubs from taking players from us in a similar situation. 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,357
    Hopefully we are trying, the owner will only sell players when they run out of the Olise cash unfortunately
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  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    Still don't know why we aren't raiding Reading. Wing, Smith, Knibbs & Bindon all quality and must be cheaper than some other options due to the state Reading are in. It's sad their situation but it didn't stop clubs from taking players from us in a similar situation. 
    Those players have to want to sign for us for it to happen. Expect a few will be waiting on championship moves, especially now that Selles is at Hull 
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,357
    Hopefully the owners show a bit of intent this window, keeping our best players and adding a bit of quality to the squad. 
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Redhenry said:
    If we lose Jones to Wycombe it will be a new low for me. I don't have any info on this btw just reading press
    100% lose any players that our in our first team to another league one club would be all time low
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    Wasn't Sam Smith very close to signing but Reading had their embargo lifted and nipped in ahead of us?
  • DubaiCAFC
    DubaiCAFC Posts: 2,461
    Player I would like to see us go after is Nathan Lowe, on loan at Walsall from Stoke. Big power and strong forward. Knows where the goal is. That would show great intent. 
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,805
    DubaiCAFC said:
    Player I would like to see us go after is Nathan Lowe, on loan at Walsall from Stoke. Big power and strong forward. Knows where the goal is. That would show great intent. 
    An new Lowe for the club?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    I know someone like Smith isn't really needed because we've got plenty of strikers but adding him and Lewis Wing would be statements. Smith and Leaburn would be up there for best strike partnerships in the league and Wing would add goals and creativity from Midfield. 

    (Bindon I think is out of reach , will go to a champ club)
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,146
    Omar Bogle scored for Crewe yesterday.
    Thats 3 already this season and we are only in January. 
    Good to see he hasn’t lost it.
    Also missed a sitter yesterday, I believe but it's Bogle!
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,894
    We seem to have big problems in identifying attacking players - other than May (who clearly didn't need identifying), what other player - midfield, winger or striker - has been a success in the last say 5 years? Our season has been transformed by dropping our 2 most recent forward signings for 2 academy players - i know that these players tend to be the most sought after / cost the most - maybe loans from the prem clubs - like rak saki - is the only way to get the game changers and if we don't do that, we're stuffed?    
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    NabySarr said:
    Still don't know why we aren't raiding Reading. Wing, Smith, Knibbs & Bindon all quality and must be cheaper than some other options due to the state Reading are in. It's sad their situation but it didn't stop clubs from taking players from us in a similar situation. 
    Those players have to want to sign for us for it to happen. Expect a few will be waiting on championship moves, especially now that Selles is at Hull 
    100% but I just hope we are trying. Bindon & Knibbs will probably have champ interest but I think Smith & Wing are viable. Offer them more money & job security
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Still don't know why we aren't raiding Reading. Wing, Smith, Knibbs & Bindon all quality and must be cheaper than some other options due to the state Reading are in. It's sad their situation but it didn't stop clubs from taking players from us in a similar situation. 
    Even if we don't sign anyone from Reading, we need to destabilize them before tomorrow's game. Offer all those 4 players massive contracts to unsettle them, so they don't play tomorrow...
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    edited January 3
    If we sell Jones, then I suspect it'll be CM trying to prove to the US owners he can bring money in!
    I would also suggest that the backlash against the SMT would be vociferous at the very least and more fans will vote with their feet!
    CM is a 100 mph prat and it's the sort of stupid stunt he'd pull just to save his own skin.
    Jones is by a very large margin the best defender we have, in fact I'd suggest one of the best players we have at the club!
    Moving Jones on, no matter how much we're offered, will put pay to any chance, however remote, we have of making the play-offs, sadly CM and Scott are short-sighted enough to make such a stupid decision! 
    I can only hope Gavin Carter reads this and other SM to realise the damage it would do. 
    I want to see the US owners building a competitive squad, not allowing CM and Co. to make a few bob!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,284
    MarcusH26 said:
    Wasn't Sam Smith very close to signing but Reading had their embargo lifted and nipped in ahead of us?
    Think we offered him more money, but he came through the academy at Reading so wanted to go there 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    Raiding Reading won’t be as easy at it seems. They are under an embargo and the squad is thin enough as it is so they would be left with just an academy team in effect. They need money yes but they can’t just sell everyone 
  • drawnablank
    drawnablank Posts: 775
    If we sell Jones, then I suspect it'll be CM trying to prove to the US owners he can bring money in!
    I would also suggest that the backlash against the SMT would be vociferous at the very least and more fans will vote with their feet!
    CM is a 100 mph prat and it's the sort of stupid stunt he'd pull just to save his own skin.
    Jones is by a very large margin the best defender we have, in fact I'd suggest one of the best players we have at the club!
    Moving Jones on, no matter how much we're offered, will put pay to any chance, however remote, we have of making the play-offs, sadly CM and Scott are short-sighted enough to make such a stupid decision! 
    I can only hope Gavin Carter reads this and other SM to realise the damage it would do. 
    I want to see the US owners building a competitive squad, not allowing CM and Co. to make a few bob!
    And whether Jones wants to stay or not has no bearing on anything?
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,042
    fenaddick said:
    Raiding Reading won’t be as easy at it seems. They are under an embargo and the squad is thin enough as it is so they would be left with just an academy team in effect. They need money yes but they can’t just sell everyone 
    Embargoed clubs are allowed to “staff up (to maintain 23 players of professional standing)”. They can’t pay fees, but can take in players on loan or free agents. 
  • MintoHumbugs
    MintoHumbugs Posts: 753
    Redhenry said:
    Hopefully the owners show a bit of intent this window, keeping our best players and adding a bit of quality to the squad. 
    I agree although by league 1 standards we already have a big squad  so some will have to go to bring a couple in.

    I’ve mentioned before,  the  current owners have brought in higher league players and only sold two players of note May and CBT and they wanted out. Until proven otherwise they have my backing.
  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    If we sell Jones, then I suspect it'll be CM trying to prove to the US owners he can bring money in!
    I would also suggest that the backlash against the SMT would be vociferous at the very least and more fans will vote with their feet!
    CM is a 100 mph prat and it's the sort of stupid stunt he'd pull just to save his own skin.
    Jones is by a very large margin the best defender we have, in fact I'd suggest one of the best players we have at the club!
    Moving Jones on, no matter how much we're offered, will put pay to any chance, however remote, we have of making the play-offs, sadly CM and Scott are short-sighted enough to make such a stupid decision! 
    I can only hope Gavin Carter reads this and other SM to realise the damage it would do. 
    I want to see the US owners building a competitive squad, not allowing CM and Co. to make a few bob!
    And whether Jones wants to stay or not has no bearing on anything?
    No one knows what Jones wants, but the club have a decision to make, a big one and I don't trust CM and Co.
    They can hold on to Jones until the end of his contract in the hope he can help get us promoted. If he does,  and can, he might decide to stay with us and sign a new contract in the summer as he would be playing Championship football. If we don't get promoted he could move on for free, but we're not going to get a fortune for him now due to his contract running out, so why not take the chance?
    However, I fear CM will look to make a small but quick buck....its in his 'make-up'.
    All we, as a club, would be doing is asking Jones to give us 6 months and then allowed to move for free, if we don't go up. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,986
    TelMc32 said:
    fenaddick said:
    Raiding Reading won’t be as easy at it seems. They are under an embargo and the squad is thin enough as it is so they would be left with just an academy team in effect. They need money yes but they can’t just sell everyone 
    Embargoed clubs are allowed to “staff up (to maintain 23 players of professional standing)”. They can’t pay fees, but can take in players on loan or free agents. 
    Sure but they still need permission from the EFL, it’s what held up Chem Campbell for them in the summer and Gilbey and Washington for us a few years back 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    DubaiCAFC said:
    The whole point of a recruitment department is that you pay them to find the underperforming and thus undervalued talents who can be molded into something better for the benefit of the club. You pair them up with solid pros like Lloyd Jones, Greg Docherty and Matty Godden on the pitch to get the best out of them.

    Otherwise we might as well let the fans vote on our next signings and end up with more Scott Frasers, Charlie Kirks and Freddie Ladapos.
    A lot of the signings that have failed, and been impressive signings for the fans.. Just haven't worked out! Freddie for me was the biggest disappointment, and he was someone the club chased for 2 years! 
    Well he wasn't quick enough to outrun us was he !