There's definitely signs that Jones has an idea for what he wants to do and is (as he has said himself) learning things about the players and the squad. Certainly feel much more confident that if anyone could polish the turd that is this squad, it's him.
But "if" is doing a lot of lifting there. We've made some small improvements overall but we NEED to be making much bigger ones much quicker.
A very hard fought point. Can't fault their running tonight. A mention for NJ post match. He comes across as so energetic and enthused, it must be infectious for the players. If he can bring that to training and match days, we could be into better things.
Whole midfield was poor I thought. Anderson gets a pass as he's young and tried hard but his passong was sloppy.
Games like that really highlight how limited Dobson is imo.
Less said about Bakinson the better. He's getting worse each game.
He’s been Charltonised very quickly hasn’t he?
After his debut I was really excited he would be the leader this team needs to take it by the scruff of the neck, instead he’s just sinking to their level.
Charlton fans are so full of negativity and that is understandable but with no CBT and Alfie out of salts that was an encouraging 2nd half. Thankfully Nathan Jones won't quit like so many on CL who have thrown the towel in.
Great strike by Ladapo and the subs made a difference, including Edun who had a great cameo. I don't expect anyone else to notice. Any time Chuks Aneke is involved we have a chance.
It's been the season from hell but we have 14 games to play with that spirit but more skill.
Seen some low ratings/slaggings of Anderson. I thought he was good. He gave us presence and fight. We'll need that
Agreed he's still a bit raw but really put himself about and tried to get it forward - Bakinson on the other hand was poor.
Yeah, by no means is Anderson the finished article, but I think this is the first time in a while where I feel like he's starting to "get" the men's game. Put himself about, and he's clever and tidy at times. Still makes positional mistakes, not as quick on the ball as he'll need to be, but he starts on Saturday for me, and he might be a good "linking" midfielder who can go box to box and provide that bit of quality.
I still think he's going to be a real good one.
And yeah, Bakinson. Said it on the match thread but I wish he was just a bit better with his touch, his final ball, and his finishing. Just lacks that bit of quality, and that's why he's down here instead of up there with Sheff Wed. If we weren't playing him as the furthest forward midfielder you probably wouldn't notice his shortcomings as much, and that is a black mark on our recruitment process and not bringing in enough creativity in midfielder. But the sooner we can get Camara into that midfield from the start, the better. Ran things when he came on, and he's just so strong carrying the ball. We desperately need him.
The only thing I thought we might have done better was swap Anderson instead of May and play him in the 10 role. Yes, May is struggling. He is the sort of player who tries to do too much in these situations, but playing that role might help him.
A very hard fought point. Can't fault their running tonight. A mention for NJ post match. He comes across as so energetic and enthused, it must be infectious for the players. If he can bring that to training and match days, we could be into better things.
Like a jack in the box on the touchline, pushing the team along
Deserved to win tonight great fight and spirit from the boys said all along if Aneke and Camara had not got injured we would not be where we are now ….. another two points lost due to a poor mistake from Dobson .. .. lots of positives we just need that bit of luck , the bounce of the ball , a deflection just to break this run but a lot tonight to take from the game
Whole midfield was poor I thought. Anderson gets a pass as he's young and tried hard but his passong was sloppy.
Games like that really highlight how limited Dobson is imo.
Less said about Bakinson the better. He's getting worse each game.
He’s been Charltonised very quickly hasn’t he?
After his debut I was really excited he would be the leader this team needs to take it by the scruff of the neck, instead he’s just sinking to their level.
All these players will look shit until there is attacking players alongside them who like to play on the front foot to help. We have 9 players who prefer to go backwards or sidewards then try and create. It’s not there fault all the shitty managers and owners who can’t fucking see it
There is a possibility of course that we will get relegated, goes without saying considering our league position. Fucking pointless stating the obvious tho. Have some belief and look upwards
Deservedly losing until Chuks came on. Really feels like bringing on Chuks almost guarantees us a goal....next time we just need to be winning or drawing at that point! First half was poor, with only Anderson and Ramsay emerging with credit for me. I can't believe somebody has given Ramsay a 4 rating?! I thought it was really encouraging seeing a positive wing back for a change.
I feel Anderson is one of those players that does a lot of unseen work. He really got around the pitch today, much more effective than Bakinson and imho better than Dobson on the day.
Subs were spot on. Much as I love May, it just wasn't happening for him. Camara looked rusty and was still in our top 3 performers when he came on. So all we need to do is keep Aneke and Camara fit - what could possibly go wrong...
Watson had an OK game but there were a couple of defensive moments in the second half which could have led to goals if we were playing a different side. He needs to be stronger and more decisive in those situations.
Deserved to win tonight great fight and spirit from the boys said all along if Aneke and Camara had not got injured we would not be where we are now ….. another two points lost due to a poor mistake from Dobson .. .. lots of positives we just need that bit of luck , the bounce of the ball , a deflection just to break this run but a lot tonight to take from the game
I know don’t feed the troll etc but it was not two points lost by Dobson.
Seriously why do you bother mate? Is it enjoyment in winding up fans of the team you supposedly support? I’d love to have a beer with you one day at the valley and work out why you do it. If you even go to games
Just seen Jones' post match interview. Love the bloke!
He's the sort of fella that could buy his kid a satsuma and a whistle for Christmas and make them feel like they got a scalextric and a millennium falcon.
Wasn't happy with the first 45 but 2nd half gave some promise. Still a very long way to go but IF we can keep Chuks & Camara fit then we might take it to the last game if the season.
Positives -
Ramsay Dobbo (or course) Being able to bring on Canara, Chuks & Ladapo
Negatives -
Too many passes Not enough attacking threat Right back playing left back.
Who played well after his poor Reading performance.
Seen some low ratings/slaggings of Anderson. I thought he was good. He gave us presence and fight. We'll need that
I posted on the match thread that he looked frightened in the first half meaning he didn’t look to do anything with the ball when he got it just knocked it back to Jones but he grew into the game and had a decent 2nd half.
Camara could be a key player for us he brings the energy we have really lacked lately. We’ve a long way to go but there was a bit of fight about us 2nd half.
Noticeable how NJ absolutely rips in to the players. He went off on one with Alfie after Watson put in a rare decent cross and he didn’t get on the end of it.
Too much of the ball went through Thomas and he lacked composure today.
What a player and what a goal from their number 7.
Anyone catch his name?
Sort of talent we should be signing before he goes to the premier league.
Not a win and we still shot ourselves in the foot but we didn't lose, we kept it simple and cleared it long most of the time and we finished stronger and on the front foot.
Great to see Chuks back, he means the opposition have something to worry about.
But as important was Ladapo scoring. He also looked a handful and scored a good goal.
Glad to see a bit of fight in the team when it kicked off 2nd half. Ref was terrible
May didn't look happy but he'd been rowing with NJ so that might have been the reason.
We still lack creativity but how to fit Coventry or Fiorini into that side and not lose the fighting side of the game?
It is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end but it might be the end of the beginning.
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But "if" is doing a lot of lifting there. We've made some small improvements overall but we NEED to be making much bigger ones much quicker.
Games like that really highlight how limited Dobson is imo.
Less said about Bakinson the better. He's getting worse each game.
After his debut I was really excited he would be the leader this team needs to take it by the scruff of the neck, instead he’s just sinking to their level.
Thankfully Nathan Jones won't quit like so many on CL who have thrown the towel in.
Great strike by Ladapo and the subs made a difference, including Edun who had a great cameo. I don't expect anyone else to notice.
Any time Chuks Aneke is involved we have a chance.
It's been the season from hell but we have 14 games to play with that spirit but more skill.
I still think he's going to be a real good one.
And yeah, Bakinson. Said it on the match thread but I wish he was just a bit better with his touch, his final ball, and his finishing. Just lacks that bit of quality, and that's why he's down here instead of up there with Sheff Wed. If we weren't playing him as the furthest forward midfielder you probably wouldn't notice his shortcomings as much, and that is a black mark on our recruitment process and not bringing in enough creativity in midfielder. But the sooner we can get Camara into that midfield from the start, the better. Ran things when he came on, and he's just so strong carrying the ball. We desperately need him.
I feel Anderson is one of those players that does a lot of unseen work. He really got around the pitch today, much more effective than Bakinson and imho better than Dobson on the day.
Subs were spot on. Much as I love May, it just wasn't happening for him. Camara looked rusty and was still in our top 3 performers when he came on. So all we need to do is keep Aneke and Camara fit - what could possibly go wrong...
He's the sort of fella that could buy his kid a satsuma and a whistle for Christmas and make them feel like they got a scalextric and a millennium falcon.
Camara could be a key player for us he brings the energy we have really lacked lately. We’ve a long way to go but there was a bit of fight about us 2nd half.
Noticeable how NJ absolutely rips in to the players. He went off on one with Alfie after Watson put in a rare decent cross and he didn’t get on the end of it.
Too much of the ball went through Thomas and he lacked composure today.
Anyone catch his name?
Sort of talent we should be signing before he goes to the premier league.
Not a win and we still shot ourselves in the foot but we didn't lose, we kept it simple and cleared it long most of the time and we finished stronger and on the front foot.
Great to see Chuks back, he means the opposition have something to worry about.
But as important was Ladapo scoring. He also looked a handful and scored a good goal.
Glad to see a bit of fight in the team when it kicked off 2nd half. Ref was terrible
May didn't look happy but he'd been rowing with NJ so that might have been the reason.
We still lack creativity but how to fit Coventry or Fiorini into that side and not lose the fighting side of the game?
It is not the end, it is not even the beginning of the end but it might be the end of the beginning.