I can't believe people are even trying to justify or give reasoning to Appletons sub choices, giving him far too much credit.
Who takes off their best player who causes issues all over the pitch? Especially at 90+ mins when the game isn't out of sight. If he was doing it to protect May from being booked, then he's even dumber than I was giving him credit for.
As for all the talk of giving him a transfer window?? Do me a favour 😂
You want this bloke, who gets us playing this level of football, making these kind of subs, making these kind of excuses having a transfer window? Jesus fkn wept.
Write the season off, get a proper manager in now, build for next season with May as the main man and find the right players up to it, would be a far better solution. You give this bloke a transfer window (which is a Myth anyway btw) he will genuinely damage our club long term.
Name your preferred choice of Manager please Brazilance.
Me or Curbs, no one else up to it.
But seriously Curbs, watches the team week in week out, give him the season to sus it out and work his way back to management.
Other than that all my options are too expensive so it's about getting lucky until we crawl back into the championship.
As a Charlton TV regular from Day 1 I think I can assert with some confidence that Curbs doesn't want it, not even remotely; at the same time he would be happy to consider a father-figure role with a younger manager. But let's also remember Fulham tried that with Curbs and it didn't work, for whatever reason.
I know he wouldn't, that would just be my ideal pick. There's no way he wouldn't be up to it still, far too knowledgeable and has an eye for a player.
Appleton doesn’t do the big man little man two up front formation. As far as I know, he never has. Would love to be proved otherwise.
The closest we’ll get is a physical presence up front and May playing off of them as a 10, like he had been for a few weeks. Alfie’s expected to be arriving in the box to get on the end of knock downs like he would as a poacher, but also be the link man in the final third. And it was working well.
Plus….. didn’t Andy Scott say the club spent all summer planning to build around one formation (one up front) and then Holden went rogue and starting trying to go two up front at the end?
Appleton doesn’t do the big man little man two up front formation. As far as I know, he never has. Would love to be proved otherwise.
The closest we’ll get is a physical presence up front and May playing off of them as a 10, like he had been for a few weeks. Alfie’s expected to be arriving in the box to get on the end of knock downs like he would as a poacher, but also be the link man in the final third. And it was working well.
Plus….. didn’t Andy Scott say the club spent all summer planning to build around one formation (one up front) and then Holden went rogue and starting trying to go two up front at the end?
Appleton doesn’t do the big man little man two up front formation. As far as I know, he never has. Would love to be proved otherwise.
The closest we’ll get is a physical presence up front and May playing off of them as a 10, like he had been for a few weeks. Alfie’s expected to be arriving in the box to get on the end of knock downs like he would as a poacher, but also be the link man in the final third. And it was working well.
Plus….. didn’t Andy Scott say the club spent all summer planning to build around one formation (one up front) and then Holden went rogue and starting trying to go two up front at the end?
You can't buy Alfie May and plan to play one up front when the options are an injured Leaburn and injury prone Aneke.
Appleton doesn’t do the big man little man two up front formation. As far as I know, he never has. Would love to be proved otherwise.
The closest we’ll get is a physical presence up front and May playing off of them as a 10, like he had been for a few weeks. Alfie’s expected to be arriving in the box to get on the end of knock downs like he would as a poacher, but also be the link man in the final third. And it was working well.
Plus….. didn’t Andy Scott say the club spent all summer planning to build around one formation (one up front) and then Holden went rogue and starting trying to go two up front at the end?
You can't buy Alfie May and plan to play one up front when the options are an injured Leaburn and injury prone Aneke.
That's just a ridiculous plan!
Surely we can all see that!
I don’t disagree - the obvious move would’ve been buying him to play a two up front because that’s how he’d been so good for Cheltenham. It might explain the rumoured resistance by the leadership over bringing him in.
Luckily for us, he’s scoring at an even better rate playing in a different position. Like @ValleyBen jokingly posts above, May is the sort of player that’s going to find the net wherever he’s meant to be playing.
But to not buy the best goslscorer in this division THREE YEARS IN A ROW NOW
For just £250k
BECAUSE he doesn't fit the formation we want to play at a time when we had no other players available to play up front is why this club is bat shit crazy!!!!
Imagine a season without Alfie.
We'd be rock bottom.
This club tries to be too clever by half without understanding you actually need good players to achieve anything.
I can't believe people are even trying to justify or give reasoning to Appletons sub choices, giving him far too much credit.
Who takes off their best player who causes issues all over the pitch? Especially at 90+ mins when the game isn't out of sight. If he was doing it to protect May from being booked, then he's even dumber than I was giving him credit for.
As for all the talk of giving him a transfer window?? Do me a favour 😂
You want this bloke, who gets us playing this level of football, making these kind of subs, making these kind of excuses having a transfer window? Jesus fkn wept.
Write the season off, get a proper manager in now, build for next season with May as the main man and find the right players up to it, would be a far better solution. You give this bloke a transfer window (which is a Myth anyway btw) he will genuinely damage our club long term.
Name your preferred choice of Manager please Brazilance.
Me or Curbs, no one else up to it.
But seriously Curbs, watches the team week in week out, give him the season to sus it out and work his way back to management.
Other than that all my options are too expensive so it's about getting lucky until we crawl back into the championship.
As a Charlton TV regular from Day 1 I think I can assert with some confidence that Curbs doesn't want it, not even remotely; at the same time he would be happy to consider a father-figure role with a younger manager. But let's also remember Fulham tried that with Curbs and it didn't work, for whatever reason.
he said when jacko was manager he would be happy to come in and help, offer advice - be almost like keith peacock when he was manager - why o why does no owner make this happen? - curbishley turned us into a serious football club again after years of crap and decline - he won london derby's he did the double over millwall in 96 and effectively relegated them - its an absolute no brainer - it would put 5000 on the next gate and properly get some momentum going - what is wrong with these people - if i bought the club i would just ask him to do as much or as little as he wants but christ it would be my first phone call
If these people were credible and had a credible plan, Chris Powell would have come in August. That would have generated goodwill and momentum, and despite some people sneering at Powell he has both the track record and the club at heart. But they’re not and they don’t, and Powell knew it..
it’s not Appleton’s fault but that is what is now playing out.
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Apart from his goals, Ahadme looked a pain throughout the game.
How comes Tedic from City looks anonymous whilst Ahadme, the same age, on loan from Ipswich looks a much better player. We certainly pick them.
Ahadme is pants (allegedly) their fans slander him if you go by social media (YouTube, forum, twitter) comments. Some were even asking for him to be subbed off against us.
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
For a while they were both phenomenal tbf
Genuinely don't remember either being "Phenomenal".
Good enough for Championship sure, but not that great. We haven't had many "Phenomenal" players ever.
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
That Bikey bloke could also do a job for us now. No lack of physical strength there if I remember correctly.
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
For a while they were both phenomenal tbf
Genuinely don't remember either being "Phenomenal".
Good enough for Championship sure, but not that great. We haven't had many "Phenomenal" players ever.
Yeah Phenomenal is a stretch, they were both very decent, more so Ben Haim consistently. Eventually I think Roger Johnson took Bikeys place?
I remember when we first got 'RoJo' aka the Relegator he was referred to as a warrior on here, few months later he was telling our fans to fack off and not go to the games if we didn't like it 😂
Another fraud on the long list of them over the years, couldn't stand the bloke.
Had a lot of time for Ben Haim though, classy centre back at times
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
That Bikey bloke could also do a job for us now. No lack of physical strength there if I remember correctly.
Bikey was a big strong bloke yeah, also wasn't too slow either for his size. Remember him having a monster performance against Watford.
Genuinely can't remember how he fell out of favour or what happened with him
I have so many questions about that grenade you just dropped, I don’t know where to start.
I'm not too disheartened yet. Just because the owner/board approach didn't appeal to Powell back then, that doesn't mean they have to stick to it if they can see it isn't playing out as they'd hoped. We may yet have a more positive window to look back on if they do.
However, my worry is if they decide to keep faith with the youth development model when they have a manager calling for experienced heads and leaders. We'll be building on shifting sands instead of laying down more solid foundations for progression.
I refuse to believe that after a deluded owner in RD, crooks led by MS, a deluded owner in TS, we have found ourselves with an entire bunch of deluded individuals not one of whom has the nous to realize their plan might not be working. No chance.
Whether it's only one individual and they're not an influencer is another matter, but if that person was me, I could smell the coffee, but I couldn't persuade others to change direction, I'd cut and run.
January is not the best time for doing long term business as it's about quick fixes, which we're in need of as always, so in all probability, next summers window will be more of an eye opener strategy wise.
Familiar faces in the Cambridge line were Michael Morrison, Jordan Cousins and loanee Kaikai
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Andre Bikey & Tal Ben Haim were preferred over him by Bob Peeters and he was moved on as a result, ridiculous decision in hindsight
For a while they were both phenomenal tbf
Indeed.
One of the best centre half pairing we've had since the Prem days.
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The closest we’ll get is a physical presence up front and May playing off of them as a 10, like he had been for a few weeks. Alfie’s expected to be arriving in the box to get on the end of knock downs like he would as a poacher, but also be the link man in the final third. And it was working well.
Plus….. didn’t Andy Scott say the club spent all summer planning to build around one formation (one up front) and then Holden went rogue and starting trying to go two up front at the end?
That's just a ridiculous plan!
Surely we can all see that!
Luckily for us, he’s scoring at an even better rate playing in a different position. Like @ValleyBen jokingly posts above, May is the sort of player that’s going to find the net wherever he’s meant to be playing.
For just £250k
BECAUSE he doesn't fit the formation we want to play at a time when we had no other players available to play up front is why this club is bat shit crazy!!!!
Imagine a season without Alfie.
We'd be rock bottom.
This club tries to be too clever by half without understanding you actually need good players to achieve anything.
How comes Tedic from City looks anonymous whilst Ahadme, the same age, on loan from Ipswich looks a much better player.
We certainly pick them.
it’s not Appleton’s fault but that is what is now playing out.
I can't remember the exact circumstances for Michael Morrison's departure in 2015 but remember being disappointed at the time. He seems to have done a sound job for Birmingham, Reading, Portsmouth and Cambridge since leaving us in his career of 676 games (so far).
Probably says more about us than him:
I remember when we first got 'RoJo' aka the Relegator he was referred to as a warrior on here, few months later he was telling our fans to fack off and not go to the games if we didn't like it 😂
Another fraud on the long list of them over the years, couldn't stand the bloke.
Had a lot of time for Ben Haim though, classy centre back at times
Genuinely can't remember how he fell out of favour or what happened with him
I'm not too disheartened yet. Just because the owner/board approach didn't appeal to Powell back then, that doesn't mean they have to stick to it if they can see it isn't playing out as they'd hoped. We may yet have a more positive window to look back on if they do.
However, my worry is if they decide to keep faith with the youth development model when they have a manager calling for experienced heads and leaders. We'll be building on shifting sands instead of laying down more solid foundations for progression.
Whether it's only one individual and they're not an influencer is another matter, but if that person was me, I could smell the coffee, but I couldn't persuade others to change direction, I'd cut and run.
January is not the best time for doing long term business as it's about quick fixes, which we're in need of as always, so in all probability, next summers window will be more of an eye opener strategy wise.
One of the best centre half pairing we've had since the Prem days.