I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
Morrison wasn't entirely comparable, as for a start he was pushed out AFTER signing a contract, a ludicrous decision.
If Dobson was to sign his contract offer, then I'm sure he'd still get plenty of game time, but going forward I would question whether he would be the guaranteed pick he has been. We've not signed Coventry to sit on the bench, and then it's a question of the balance in midfield. Are we playing 3 midfielders or 2 plus a more attacking player? Bakinson definitely added something on Saturday, while a fit Camara (if that ever happens) would surely be really strong competition for Dobson as well.
was told by someone I trust yesterday that Dobson does not want to leave the club and is very happy here. Seems we've made him what we think is a good/fair offer....but he clearly thinks he's worth a bit more.
Whether we can find common ground is the question.
I can quite believe Dobbo doesnt want to leave us, why would he ? he is one of those players that just "gets" the club. He is my 1st name on the team sheet every week as you just know what he is going to provide. How on earth he is getting the negative comments on here is a joke. If he does extend his contract it will be one of our better signing this window imo
was told by someone I trust yesterday that Dobson does not want to leave the club and is very happy here. Seems we've made him what we think is a good/fair offer....but he clearly thinks he's worth a bit more.
Whether we can find common ground is the question.
Sounds promising and hopefully sounds like a deal can be struck it would be one less player to replace for a rebuild, Fiorini and Bakinson are only on loan so no reason any recent signing pushes Dobson out the door.
Could come down to whether Appleton still feels Dobson is the guaranteed starter he has been which might define how much the club are offering and how much Dobson is wanting.
What a rubbish link to peddle out there. Why in God’s name would George want to uproot his family to play in Hungary? I am half Croatian and touristically the country has a lot to offer, but if George asked me should he be quitting to play for Zagreb or Split I would categorically advise against it. He is bringing up a young family now and in a city which has everything he could wish for, get a deal done and head down in helping CAFC out of this shite division. Some of the much needed cavalry appear to be arriving (at long last)…after all!
Coming in to be 3rd choice? Or is one of the others leaving
It's a weird one as he's also a youth coach at Swindon despite being relatively young. I'd guess he's third choice but with an eye to helping out Henderson in the coaching department
Ward I don't really understand the logic behind , I guess if they have concerns about Isteds knee being something that will keep him in and out of the squad?
Ward I don't really understand the logic behind , I guess if they have concerns about Isteds knee being something that will keep him in and out of the squad?
Think this is it. Coupled with AMB injury tendencies (although that's been fine this season) it's sensible to have someone on the books as cover. He seems happy to be cover too
If we were still a proper football club we would offer George Dobson what he wants, find the money and make sure he stays.
I don't believe for one minute his contract requirements are unreasonable despite the very well informed leaks about confidential contract negotiations with the club Captain. That shows you the caliber of these charlatans. Dobson puts his body on the line game after game and they leak details of his new contract to win some brownie-points with fans. Classy!
As others have said, he is captain, fan-favourite, player of the year twice and the only player who gives it his all even when surrounded by dross and all hope has gone. He personifies what this team should be aspiring to in terms of energy,attitude, professionalism and commitment.
No amount of Methven-sponsored propaganda will soften the blow when he leaves. And for his sake, I hope he does. He deserves better than this lot. Much better.
Sorry to repeat the views of many others but it really pisses me off.
100% agree. Assuming that Dubai isn’t just making it up (and I don’t think he is), he is being fed information, knowing that it will go into the public domain and become ‘fact’. Even if it is fact, it’s a pretty shady way to operate.
Thats a nice bit of transfer news youve posted there, but, do you think we could ever move on from having George Dobson or not? Do you think suggesting a change is punishable by the "your'e not proper Charlton" death penalty?
I think the polarised nature of the Dobson discussion doesn’t help. It’s not a question of Dobson good/bad. Dobson isn’t suitable as the deepest midfielder charged with shielding the defence because his positional discipline and ability to snuff out danger before it happens isn’t very good. He is however a good passer, tackler and general harrying midfielder. Top teams don’t play with a destroyer in front of their defence and if they did they wouldn’t go with Dobson to do it. I’d like us to play Dobson higher up. Use his engine and his aggression to win the ball higher up the pitch while a more tactically aware midfielder dictates play from deeper. Dobson is a very good player and I hope we keep him but we could use him more effectively
I see the idea with the keeper. We have AMB who has a tendency to get crocked. Isted coming back from a long term injury where we do not know if it could have recurring issues. The younger keepers are not ready yet. A cheap alternative that does not mind being back up, that is OK if ever relied upon and can help out with some coaching of the youngsters. I see the idea, I see where they are coming from
Feels an odd one, seeing that he's been a backup keeper in L2 for the last 3 seasons. And has never played a game higher than that level either.
Looking at his Wiki page, he has a degree in journalism, so maybe he'll combine his keeper duties with writing for the matchday programme.
Fairly sure he's just coming in so we have an extra body available should AMB/Isted get injured. AMB seems to get a bit streaky with injuries, Isted been out for a while and will take time to recover full I guess.
I imagine that it will be a fairly short contract.
Interesting to note that Ward signed for Swindon as a keeper but also 'Youth Development Phase Lead Coach' Only 26, but wondering if we see a similar role for him here?
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If Dobson was to sign his contract offer, then I'm sure he'd still get plenty of game time, but going forward I would question whether he would be the guaranteed pick he has been. We've not signed Coventry to sit on the bench, and then it's a question of the balance in midfield. Are we playing 3 midfielders or 2 plus a more attacking player? Bakinson definitely added something on Saturday, while a fit Camara (if that ever happens) would surely be really strong competition for Dobson as well.
Whether we can find common ground is the question.
The other 4 are FOUR midfielders and 1 attacking midfielder, which feels a really unbalanced use of the loan market.
Could come down to whether Appleton still feels Dobson is the guaranteed starter he has been which might define how much the club are offering and how much Dobson is wanting.
(Rapidly deletes post as Dobson signs for this Eastern European team!)
Got to be cover, but makes me wonder why when we could get an emergency loan for a GK if needed.
Looking at his Wiki page, he has a degree in journalism, so maybe he'll combine his keeper duties with writing for the matchday programme.
Thats a nice bit of transfer news youve posted there, but, do you think we could ever move on from having George Dobson or not? Do you think suggesting a change is punishable by the "your'e not proper Charlton" death penalty?
I imagine that it will be a fairly short contract.
Only 26, but wondering if we see a similar role for him here?