If we were still a proper football club we would offer George Dobson what he wants, find the money and make sure he stays.
I don't believe for one minute his contract requirements are unreasonable despite the very well informed leaks about confidential contract negotiations with the club Captain. That shows you the caliber of these charlatans. Dobson puts his body on the line game after game and they leak details of his new contract to win some brownie-points with fans. Classy!
As others have said, he is captain, fan-favourite, player of the year twice and the only player who gives it his all even when surrounded by dross and all hope has gone. He personifies what this team should be aspiring to in terms of energy,attitude, professionalism and commitment.
No amount of Methven-sponsored propaganda will soften the blow when he leaves. And for his sake, I hope he does. He deserves better than this lot. Much better.
Sorry to repeat the views of many others but it really pisses me off.
Absolutely.
It's all very well being(supposedly)offered a 70% increase but if it still puts him below other players then I fully understand IF he was still unhappy.
Absurd these negative comments about Dobson. How fickle this fan base is these days.
First name on the team sheet as far as I'm concerned.
Hope he stays for years to come.
I agree. But he is out of form and it's good that he now has competition.
my only gripe is that he sits so deep. When we play it out from the back, he is generally level or two yards in front of the defenders. Coventry looked more advanced.
Is dropping back so deep his natural game or is he being told to do it?
If there’s a chance of Dobson staying then that can only be good. Camara isn’t our player and we don’t know about Bakinson yet. Fraser looks like he’s off so next season a midfield mix of Dobson, Coventry and Taylor is where we are. Dobson leaves and we have to replace him with someone of same ability. That’ll cost as least as much as keeping him.
I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
you can’t go breaking the wage structure you’re trying to impose because you think he’s been really good and he deserves it - that’s how you end up with situations like Aneke’s deal hanging around our necks.
I'm struggling to see how that's not a false equivalence Callum... The two players' situations couldn't be any more different
Absurd these negative comments about Dobson. How fickle this fan base is these days.
First name on the team sheet as far as I'm concerned.
Hope he stays for years to come.
I agree. But he is out of form and it's good that he now has competition.
my only gripe is that he sits so deep. When we play it out from the back, he is generally level or two yards in front of the defenders. Coventry looked more advanced.
Is dropping back so deep his natural game or is he being told to do it?
Is he that out of form? Didn’t have the best game on Saturday but I thought Oxford at home was one of his best games this season and that was only 2 games ago. Oxford fans were all very complimentary about him
Cannot believe that 20 minutes from Connor Coventry as good as he was means we can ditch our player best most consistent player over the last three years. Those who feel we would be better off without Dobbo must be watching a different game to me. Still really hope he stays and would be excited to see him alongside our new additions
What would he get out of moving to Hungary? Unless we are offering him peanuts I just don't get that move. Club captain at a team close to home with the potential to go up next season. Doesn't make sense to me
Might be jumping to conclusion but would expect Ferencevaros to be one of the few clubs willing to pay wages high enough for Dobson. I went there for a game a couple of years ago and the entire crowd were doing Nazi salutes ffs, I hope he doesn't go.
Absurd these negative comments about Dobson. How fickle this fan base is these days.
First name on the team sheet as far as I'm concerned.
Hope he stays for years to come.
I agree. But he is out of form and it's good that he now has competition.
my only gripe is that he sits so deep. When we play it out from the back, he is generally level or two yards in front of the defenders. Coventry looked more advanced.
Is dropping back so deep his natural game or is he being told to do it?
Think he’d benefit from playing in midfield with Bakinson, Coventry, Fiorelli and/or Camara. Rotating those five would be ideal - although of course this is on the assumption that the new signings turn out to be what we hoped for.
I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
I think a fairer comparison would be Jose Semedo. Fan favourite, played the same position, crunched some tackles and won player of the year.
He left on a free, some thought it was a disaster at the time because we didn’t pay him what he wanted. We moved on to bigger and better things, and he got a move to Sheffield where things also worked out nicely for him.
It’s all about where you’d peg him in the “8-8-8” make up of a promotion winning side. I know a lot here would put him in the elite 8 but I wouldn’t because I don’t see him fitting the two key requirements of that group:
- I don’t think George Dobson walks into Bolton, Peterborough, Portsmouth or Oxford’s midfield - I don’t think George Dobson is capable of being a dependable (or better) Championship calibre midfielder
Happy for others to disagree but that’s where I’d place him. And therefore you can’t go breaking the wage structure you’re trying to impose because you think he’s been really good and he deserves it - that’s how you end up with situations like Aneke’s deal hanging around our necks.
Maybe but same could be said about JCH and no way we were paying money for him to be in the middle group. Yet can't get in Peterboroughs first team, don't think he would Bolton's and has never proved it in the Champ despite playing there before.
What would he get out of moving to Hungary? Unless we are offering him peanuts I just don't get that move. Club captain at a team close to home with the potential to go up next season. Doesn't make sense to me
Isn't he become a dad last year. Would Mrs D want to move with a new born to Hungry!
For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.
I would assume/hope that full backs and a keeper are probably going to be addressed in summer instead.
I wonder if anything changes if they unload a couple of players soon. If Fraser was to depart, some cash would be freed up, you’d assume, depending on the deal?
For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.
For me, Dobson is hugely important to the team and the fanbase. He's a proper Charlton player - not loads of flair just a hard-working, likeable and good honest professional. He's carved out a niche in our midfield by virtue of being so consistent.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.
We did try that box midfield but it didn’t really work on Saturday. I think in future, we would need May as one of the 10s and a striker ahead of him
I can't believe people are seriously suggesting Dobson gets dropped for a few players that have a combined 100 minutes or so for Charlton.
A better manager would make sure he's in the team, he's undoubtedly one of our better players and should be part of our rebuild.
If you're of the view he's leaving so you'd want to see what else we have to offer then fair enough, but if he stays put (I really, really hope so) he is without a doubt one of the first names on the sheet.
I don’t think any player has a right to be picked ahead of better players. He’s been our lynchpin for ages, and earlier in the season he was unbelievable, but if he ends up on the bench because we have better, then that can only benefit the club.
I just think sometimes on here we can jump the gun a tad.
I think back to the Michael Morrison situation, he was quickly moved from the team by Bikey and Ben Haim, Morrison was a mainstay of our team. A lot of people were saying that we had moved on from Morrison etc.
Fast forward, both Bikey and Ben Haim aren't at the club, we get relegated, Morrison goes on to be a mainstay at Reading and Birmingham in the championship as captain for both?
It would be insane to suggest 3 players who we have barely seen feature could dislodge our captain and player of the season imho. He's guilty of being surrounded by pants players, if he had more quality around him I would be willing to bet you wouldn't see his erratic challenges as much.
Him and Coventry (I think) would be two great players for a promotion chasing side in this league. We just need better players around them now
All fair points, but somewhat irrelevant if doesn’t want to stay.
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It's all very well being(supposedly)offered a 70% increase but if it still puts him below other players then I fully understand IF he was still unhappy.
You keep your best players.
my only gripe is that he sits so deep. When we play it out from the back, he is generally level or two yards in front of the defenders. Coventry looked more advanced.
Could be agent talk to push Charlton into another offer.
1. Open google
2. type "into the valley"
3. Select transfer rumour thread
4. read
Maybe but same could be said about JCH and no way we were paying money for him to be in the middle group. Yet can't get in Peterboroughs first team, don't think he would Bolton's and has never proved it in the Champ despite playing there before.
That's not to say he hasn't improved as a player too. He WAS just a good tackler but his passing and moving have improved vastly and his driven/drilled passes are impressive.
I think he deserves to play in a side where he is supported in the middle as opposed to being the entire midfield all by himself - then see if we can get more from him
I'll admit - Coventry looked to be a good acquisition as did Fiorini. Bakinson also impressed. There is a growing trend in football lately to play a "Box" midfield - that's 4 central midfielders with 2 offensive and 2 defensive-minded. That could work if the wing backs are able to cover the wide areas and the 2 defensive midfielders know when to drop in to the back line.
I think Dobbo is happy here and rumours are he's sacked his agent as he kept trying to get him to move - presumably for some extra money. I'd like to think Dobbo will sign on and stick around. Whilst he may not be the first name on the team sheet going forward - he's a great option to have there.
I would assume/hope that full backs and a keeper are probably going to be addressed in summer instead.
A right wing back or someone similar to sess who could play both right and left should definitely be looked into though.