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Match Preview: Charlton Athletic vs Cray Valley Paper Mills | Sunday 5th November 2023 - 5:30pm KO

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  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,496
    Team predication 

    Walker

    TWatson
    Ness
    Jones
    Asiiwme

    McGandles
    Anderson 
    Fraser 

    T Campbell
    Tedic
    Kirk 
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,981
    WestStandPete said:
    They could well have more fans there than us ! Kick off time & game on TV means lots will give it a miss ( me included). If Cray Valley keep the score respectable then I think that’s the best they can hope for, assuming the players picked take it seriously, which I fully expect. Cray deserve respect but I’m expecting at least 4 goals from us with possibly 1 from them, as we rarely keep a clean sheet ! 
    What's the problem with the kick off time?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,458
    It clashes with Sunday roast time, which can’t be moved.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    edited November 2023
    Swindon 0 Aldershot 7, still playing. I hope Swindon put out their Under 21 team. 🤣
    FT 4-7
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    edited November 2023
    RonnieMoore said:
    This result all depends on how serious Charlton take it .. simple as that . If we make 11 changes with using this game to give players minutes like Edun and McGrandles  then it will be close even a reply … … Can see a reason for not playing Dobson and May due to suspension, but would like to think at least 6 players will start that started at Wigan .
    Irrelevant...FA cup doesn't count to league suspensions...🙄

  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    edited November 2023
    I'd never heard of Cray Valley before the draw and don't expect I'll give them a second thought after their inevitable humiliation.















    Right, off to Labrokes to put a sizable bet on Cray Valley beating Charlton tomorrow. Easy money.

  • Redmidland
    Redmidland Posts: 44,700
    Micky Appleton now live on BBC 2 as a pundit for the Bromley game!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    RonnieMoore said:
    This result all depends on how serious Charlton take it .. simple as that . If we make 11 changes with using this game to give players minutes like Edun and McGrandles  then it will be close even a reply … … Can see a reason for not playing Dobson and May due to suspension, but would like to think at least 6 players will start that started at Wigan .
    Suspensions from the cup don’t carry over to the league, and vice versa.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    Blackpool showing that it's all about the attitude. You have to have players up for it, who could be regulars. OR reserves wanting to impress
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    edited November 2023
    I’m sure Cray Valley are no mugs. The Isthmian League South East division must be the first tier 8 division to have three teams reach round 1 in a long time, if not the first time ever.

    Coalville in round 1 last year were a tier 7 side and we swept them aside 4-1 with a somewhat rotated team.

    We should be able to get the job done with the following…
    Walker

    Asiimwe Abankwah Ness Edun

    Chem McGrandles Fraser

    Tyreece Tedic Kirk

    Subs: AMB, T.Watson, Jones, Hector, L.Watson, Dobson, CBT, Leaburn, May

    If Edun and McGrandles not ready, replace them with Chin and Kedwell. Apples choice on whether Chin or Kedwell start, or T.Watson and Dobson start with Chin and Kedwell on the bench.
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  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,739
    Get the game won before we bring the kids on . Start them and you risk humiliation 
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,622
    My mate and I - wanting some Saturday football / beers - went to Phoenix Sports today - non league of course, quality of football wasn’t great - good laugh though (drinking pints of Guinness watching the game highly enjoyable) - chatted to some of the regulars there - they told us Cray Valley PM are decent, Charlton beware 

    Judging by what I saw today, doubtful - BUT there were a few players on both sides who I thought ‘what on earth are you doing playing this level, you could play well higher than this’

    Non league has improved massively these days - I can remember watching Dartford in early 80’s - it was dreadful quality and fitness wise - certainly fitness in non league is much better these days - quality is lagging behind a bit, but certainly way better 

    So - Charlton - we need to do a job, and rip them a new A Hole tmrw 

    Look at Swindon today….
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    Lordflashheart said:
    l - BUT there were a few players on both sides who I thought ‘what on earth are you doing playing this level, you could play well higher than this’


    People often forget that some players choose to play lower down the pyramid because they have a good career in some other field.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    I think it’s unusual in the extent of the qualifying rounds. The German DFB Pokal is a lot of fun but the big clubs are already in it by now. Or in the case of Bayern, in and already out at the hands of 3rd division Saarbrücken. You love to see it😛
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,622
    jimmymelrose said:
    Lordflashheart said:
    l - BUT there were a few players on both sides who I thought ‘what on earth are you doing playing this level, you could play well higher than this’


    People often forget that some players choose to play lower down the pyramid because they have a good career in some other field.
    Yes - I agree - but Phoenix are Isthmian South East Division - there were (admittedly only 3 IMO) who were NLS ability - still non league and part time

    But the lovely thing for me, is that these fellas play for their obvious love of playing football as high as they can, for as long as they can - today for Phoenix they had ex Dartford players (both - I think, fairly certainly, over 35) Ryan Hayes and Andy Pugh - both who were - in their prime - very very good non league players indeed 

    The love of football 

  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    In certain parts I guess so but was in Eindhoven recently and went to a PSV game. Got talking to a local about how different it is to be in a city with only 1-2 teams compared to London, which has the most football clubs in the world. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    I see a lot of folk on here are saying play Tedic up front.

    Do we really want to start someone who has hardly had a kick in his normal position & when he has played has looked average at best. 

    Please please please start with at least a striker who knows where the goal is. We need to get ahead early (like Blackpool) and not be 30 mins into the game with no shots on target. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    There are players in non league who could easily play at a higher level, but may choose not to because they have another career they don't want to give up. Former Dartford legend Elliot Bradbrook for example had a very good job in the City, so had no desire to go full time.

    What these players don't have is the fitness of full time pros. 

    The key is our attitude. Like Blackpool today we have to be up for it. What we can't afford is half arsed players, thinking they don't need to try.
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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,518
    Respect to all the fans who are sacrificing the match to attend their Sunday Roast...well done one and all...🙄
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,038
    Chunes said:
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    In certain parts I guess so but was in Eindhoven recently and went to a PSV game. Got talking to a local about how different it is to be in a city with only 1-2 teams compared to London, which has the most football clubs in the world. 

    I'd have thought Buenos Aires has the most teams.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,038
    MillwallFan said:
    Respect to all the fans who are sacrificing their Sunday roast to attend this match. That takes some commitment 🙏🏼

    Respect to Southampton also.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    In certain parts I guess so but was in Eindhoven recently and went to a PSV game. Got talking to a local about how different it is to be in a city with only 1-2 teams compared to London, which has the most football clubs in the world. 

    I'd have thought Buenos Aires has the most teams.
    You might be right actually, think I was looking at list of Europe
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    edited November 2023
    MillwallFan said:
    Respect to all the fans who are sacrificing their Sunday roast to attend this match. That takes some commitment 🙏🏼
    Never mind the fans, what about the players?

    "Michael, Charlton started very slowly today."

    "Yes, several of the players were suffering indigestion, having only just finished Sunday lunch before the game kicked off. Luckily Alfie was on the bench today, so he was able to slowly enjoy his Apple Crumble and Custard during the first half. We saved a portion for the referee to have at half time, maybe that's what got us the penalty!"
  • Major
    Major Posts: 1,026
    golfaddick said:
    I see a lot of folk on here are saying play Tedic up front.

    Do we really want to start someone who has hardly had a kick in his normal position & when he has played has looked average at best. 

    Please please please start with at least a striker who knows where the goal is. We need to get ahead early (like Blackpool) and not be 30 mins into the game with no shots on target. 
    Make your mind up, old chap. This is your post on the  2nd. Round Draw thread:

    Certainly the likes of Kirk, Anderson, Edun & Tedic should start. But as someone up thread has said, it should resemble a proper side with players in their right positions. We have enough fringe players & U23's to do this. 

    Anyway, do enjoy your Yorkshire pudding.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,038
    Chunes said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    In certain parts I guess so but was in Eindhoven recently and went to a PSV game. Got talking to a local about how different it is to be in a city with only 1-2 teams compared to London, which has the most football clubs in the world. 

    I'd have thought Buenos Aires has the most teams.
    You might be right actually, think I was looking at list of Europe

    It's a cracking city for groundhopping, one day I'll pop down there for two weeks.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,855
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    ElfsborgAddick said:
    Chunes said:
    jimmymelrose said:

    Two sides separated by just four miles, but a whole load of places separate them in the English Football Pyramid

    This really is why the English System is perhaps the greatest in the world, and this match up 

    Maynard-Brewer
    Laqeretabua - Ness - Hector - Edun
    Anderson - Kedwell
    Fraser
    T.Campbell - Leaburn - Kirk

    Substitutes Bench: Walker - Asiimwe - Jones - Dobson - L.Watson - C.Campbell - Casey
    Isn’t it the same more or less 
    all over Europe?
    In certain parts I guess so but was in Eindhoven recently and went to a PSV game. Got talking to a local about how different it is to be in a city with only 1-2 teams compared to London, which has the most football clubs in the world. 

    I'd have thought Buenos Aires has the most teams.
    You might be right actually, think I was looking at list of Europe

    It's a cracking city for groundhopping, one day I'll pop down there for two weeks.
    That’s a lot to cram in.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,752
    This debate is not quite clear. There are 17 professional clubs in London. The number in B.A is equal but whether they are all really professional clubs is not clear. 

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_in_Buenos_Aires

    https://www.p1travel.com/blog/football-clubs-london/

    Top division only. Doha comes second, lol:
    https://www.90min.com/posts/the-cities-with-the-most-football-teams


    Sorry for going off thread....


  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    I would like to see us start a near full strength side to get control of the game and then start withdrawing them, rather than the reverse which what usually happens as we conspire to cock-it-up.

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