Duff’s time at Swansea sounds identical to Appleton with us. No style of football, couldn’t win games and an open disregard for the club’s identity and fans.
Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build
his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of
managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s
dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different.
However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared
to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of.
I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will
take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of
all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the
last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an
instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the
opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse
and repeat further down the line.
Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build
his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of
managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s
dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different.
However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared
to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of.
I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will
take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of
all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the
last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an
instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the
opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse
and repeat further down the line.
Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build
his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of
managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s
dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different.
However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared
to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of.
I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will
take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of
all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the
last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an
instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the
opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse
and repeat further down the line.
Having reshaped the squad to play 352, you watch we'll get a manager in who wants to play 433. Or 4231. Maybe even 442.
And you think I'm joking! 🤔
Isn’t that the point though. The Club sets the formation we want to play and then if you replace the Manager you get a new one in who normally plays that system or is happy to, otherwise you get a constant churn of players.
I think compared to when Holden went it's a more attractive time to sign on as manager. Holden obviously hadn't got what he'd needed and we looked like we had another ownership who wouldn't invest enough and wouldn't give out enough control to the manager. Prospective managers will see that this window a fair bit has been invested and the manager got to bring in some of his favourites as well as being given more time than was reasonable until it became completely untenable. Hopefully anyway.
Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build
his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of
managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s
dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different.
However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared
to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of.
I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will
take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of
all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the
last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an
instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the
opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse
and repeat further down the line.
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Sorry if it's already mentioned mate. Didn't fancy wading through the previous 18 odd pages of whinging to have a look.
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Plays quite direct football I believe. Again don’t think that would be a bad thing with what we have
Yeh. Duff plays more direct football, doesn’t overvalue possession. Not saying that’s a bad thing. Especially in League One. Effective at Cheltenham and Barnsley, disaster at Swansea.
Am I the only one that thinks MA should be allowed to build
his own team and given the time to see it flourish? We have had a succession of
managers who have inherited squads, either consisting of the previous manager’s
dross, or stripped of their only good players by wholesale injuries. MA is no different.
However, for the first time in recent history we have a board that is prepared
to put its hands in its pockets and build a squad that the manager approves of.
I’m prepared to give MA a full month after the window has closed, as it will
take time for the new players (and there’s more to come) to bed in. In spite of
all of the vitriol levelled at MA it’s quite clear he didn’t come down in the
last shower and he knows which way is up. However, I fear that as we live in an
instant gratification (I want in now!) society he may not be afforded the
opportunity by the panic merchants and manic depressives, which would be a pity, only for us to set up another managerial rinse
and repeat further down the line.
Time in Division 4 you say? With our squad I'd back myself to get Charlton promoted from Division 4!
Plays quite direct football I believe. Again don’t think that would be a bad thing with what we have
Duff always felt like a bad fit for Swansea to follow Russell Martin , very stylistically different from Martin,Cooper , Potter and their fans just never took to him
Wouldn’t be surprised that the hold up for the announcement that he’s gone is that they’re trying to finalise who will take the team tomorrow and Tuesday.
With this little time left of the window, you’d hope a new manager would be through the door very quickly and it doesn’t impact any good signings we are planning on making.
It generally has not been the sacking of the managers in recent years that has been the problem, the problem has been the selection of one dreadful manager after another whom are frankly not worthy of managing our club on the whole.
The following should just never have been employed by us imo:
- Bob Peters - Guy Luzin - Karel Fraeye - Russell Slade - Ben Garner - Dean Holden (albeit I think he is a wonderful chap who was hard done by) - Michael Apples
The following should arguably have been given more time /ability to pick their own assistants etc imo - Karl Robinson - Johnnie Jackson - Nigel Adkins
The following left of their own volition - Jose Riga - Lee Bowyer
The issue is, that even including the 3 I reckon could have been given more time... Out of 12 managers, none have really gone on to have any great success after leaving us.
Bob Peeters had us in the Championship play-offs for a time, just got screwed by injuries and a small squad.
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Its lucky that Duff is suited to 3-5-2.
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Our manager and players should be able to
mix and match and adapt as required / at all times.
With our squad I'd back myself to get Charlton promoted from Division 4!
Duff always felt like a bad fit for Swansea to follow Russell Martin , very stylistically different from Martin,Cooper , Potter and their fans just never took to him
With this little time left of the window, you’d hope a new manager would be through the door very quickly and it doesn’t impact any good signings we are planning on making.
Good riddance to Appleton.
" Michael Appleton. Ex Charlton manager "