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Michael Appleton - Sacked 23/1/2024 (p105)

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  • supaclive said:
    Ok
    So you know where I live
    Um.  I just heard something.
    Probably a fox mate, just open the door and smash a spoon on a saucepan
    I'm in Utah currently so it came via WhatsApp...
  • Appleton and whoever appointed him have really screwed up our season.

    The most negative, arrogant and passive coach/manager/gymrat you will ever see. 

    All confidence has been knocked out of the players. He accepted no blame and was always in the right.
  • Fan engagement was mentioned by fans of other clubs when he was appointed as something he basically doesn't see as being important. Even the clubs where he had had some success said he always came across as distant and cold. 

    Those whole acting comments were some of the most bizarre I've heard from a manager in a press conference. 
  • Maybe I’m in the minority but as nice as genuine passion is to see, I’m not really that bothered what our manager does during the 90 minutes, as long as we win. Also, just like when managing people in most industries, if you’ve prepared and set up effectively in the first place, you shouldn’t have to bark instructions and scream while your team are carrying out their role.
  • JaShea99 said:
    Maybe I’m in the minority but as nice as genuine passion is to see, I’m not really that bothered what our manager does during the 90 minutes, as long as we win. Also, just like when managing people in most industries, if you’ve prepared and set up effectively in the first place, you shouldn’t have to bark instructions and scream while your team are carrying out their role.

    You shouldn't have to but that doesn't mean you shouldn't when your team is clearly not performing their role and wilting in front of your very eyes on a weekly basis.
  • Yeah, fair point.
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  • Jac_52 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Maybe I’m in the minority but as nice as genuine passion is to see, I’m not really that bothered what our manager does during the 90 minutes, as long as we win. Also, just like when managing people in most industries, if you’ve prepared and set up effectively in the first place, you shouldn’t have to bark instructions and scream while your team are carrying out their role.

    You shouldn't have to but that doesn't mean you shouldn't when your team is clearly not performing their role and wilting in front of your very eyes on a weekly basis.
    To not get animated when watching some of the unforgivable dross served up especially by the experienced defenders only proves Appleton never gave a damn about this job. 
    He didn't have to be furious but the blunders were exasperating.  Internalising that ain't healthy.  He didn't care, he got paid, probably still is and some other mug club owner will be along in a while to offer him another turn on the merry-go-round.
  • Re-reading the Appleton interview I think it is a useful insight into who he was as a person (as far as we were shown). Obviously at this point his number was up and everyone including him knew he was done for, but I think it displays the kind of one-eyed arrogance that he had the whole time he was with us. He could have just said in his interview that it's not who he is to be animated on the sidelines but he really does care, instead he went on some weird rant where he decided that he knew the motivations of every football manager ever. Part of being a normal, functional adult is accepting the things that work or don't work for you might be different for others but his view of the world is that if reacting on the sidelines is acting for him then it would be for everyone else as well. I genuinely don't care if a manager is quiet or a lunatic on the sidelines (though Appleton's level of absolutely no guidance whatsoever was insane to me, even the quiet managers usually have a coach giving instructions during the game) but for Appleton to claim he's figured out the psyche of every other manager based on his views is so ridiculously insular it's no wonder he keeps failing. If you can't accept there are other ways then you can't ever learn anything and he'll be stuck getting sacked every five minutes forever. 
    Good post. Appleton felt like the managerial equivalent of Gunter, Watson etc when they were here - it was a job, their last (or one of) decent contract and they weren’t motivated to really push themselves and had no serious ambitions left as players or for the club.

    What’s strange about that is we’ve seen plenty of it in players over the years but it’s rarely as obvious when it comes to managers. With MA though there’s no way he’d be taken seriously if he claimed he puts everything into it and makes a lot of sacrifices etc in the way Jones has recently said. Such a difference between them in what the role and opportunity was/is for them, and that has to impact the players and their own motivation.
  • Appleton to me seemed to not give a shit. He had a losing mentality the way he kept spouting on about how we did well against top top teams in this division. I truely believe he was just going through the motions to pick up a wage he was our only manager ever that I avoided watching his post match interviews as he annoyed me so much with his total apathy 
  • Jac_52 said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Maybe I’m in the minority but as nice as genuine passion is to see, I’m not really that bothered what our manager does during the 90 minutes, as long as we win. Also, just like when managing people in most industries, if you’ve prepared and set up effectively in the first place, you shouldn’t have to bark instructions and scream while your team are carrying out their role.

    You shouldn't have to but that doesn't mean you shouldn't when your team is clearly not performing their role and wilting in front of your very eyes on a weekly basis.
    That’s what I hated, in his interviews after the game he’d say something like “we should have been more positive passed the ball forwards instead of sideways more”, after standing silently on the touchline for 90mins when he could have shouted at the players to do exactly that 
  • The loan manager there, which ensures we won't get anyone decent from United!
  • Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    Cleaner, general dogsbody?
  • iaitch said:
    Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    Cleaner, general dogsbody?
    Tattoo artist? 😆
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  • Holden got a cushy job in Saudi and now Appleton gets a gig at Man Utd. Yet we're still stuck on league one! 
  • Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    People laugh but he’s had quite a successful career as part of Premier league backroom teams. He’s not a good manager but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good coach 
  • NabySarr said:
    Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    People laugh but he’s had quite a successful career as part of Premier league backroom teams. He’s not a good manager but that doesn’t mean he isn’t a good coach 
    Wasn’t he employed as a coach when he was with us?
  • The loan manager there, which ensures we won't get anyone decent from United!
    Devastating. How ever will we cope without contributions from the likes of Davide Petrucci and Dylan Levitt
  • It's the right kind of role for him, smacks me as a middle manager who should never be allowed into senior roles 
  • iaitch said:
    Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    Cleaner, general dogsbody?
    Tattoo artist? 😆
    Head of drama
  • Off_it said:
    iaitch said:
    Scoham said:
    https://thedeck.news/manchester-united-look-to-secure-former-charlton-athletic-and-lincoln-city-man/

    According to Alan Nixon, Appleton is joining Man Utd’s backroom team.
    Cleaner, general dogsbody?
    Tattoo artist? 😆
    Head of drama
    Personality teacher 
  • Rothko said:
    It's the right kind of role for him, smacks me as a middle manager who should never be allowed into senior roles 
    Shouldn’t have any role in football if he goes around smacking fans.
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