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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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MuttleyCAFC said:The players will know more than me but he just seems the sort of manager you run through brick walls for.
He does seem to be a peoples person, hopefully he comes across well to the players and this will be reflected in performances on the pitch.
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Four euros for a toastie?!?! You’re joking ain’t yer?1
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Ten min press conference ahead of Saturday’s game.
https://www.charltonafc.com/video/player/0_1myzofyz?feed=ffb9f603-c358-4ce8-b0d3-5f67c0fec53a§ion=d1629432-df7c-497a-a58c-a573b1225ca1
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Thats 99% of what being a good manager is isn't it? Inspiring your players to do their best.MuttleyCAFC said:The players will know more than me but he just seems the sort of manager you run through brick walls for.1 -
Please don’t encourage Chuks to run at a brick wall.MuttleyCAFC said:The players will know more than me but he just seems the sort of manager you run through brick walls for.4 -
“We are better equipped to match up when there is a need to scrap and fight” than last year !!! That’s great when you look at how many points we dropped against teams we should beat everytime just because they wanted it more last season.
we are very lucky to have this bloke hopefully we manage to keep hold of him0 -
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Has he joined Montserrat yet?0
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Seems to be a strong favourite for Bradford.0
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Poor Bradford, like us they deserve a lot better.Richard J said:Seems to be a strong favourite for Bradford.
He won't get them promoted, happy to be wrong as he's a nice enough bloke but I don't see him having an established career as a manager.2 -
I think he could do well as an assistant.Braziliance said:
Poor Bradford, like us they deserve a lot better.Richard J said:Seems to be a strong favourite for Bradford.
He won't get them promoted, happy to be wrong as he's a nice enough bloke but I don't see him having an established career as a manager.
If he was appointed at Bradford I cannot see their fans being too happy.0 -
Yeah I think as a general coach he could be an asset as he's a good character and an ex footballer with a fair bit of experience. Head coach/manager, no chance.ElfsborgAddick said:
I think he could do well as an assistant.Braziliance said:
Poor Bradford, like us they deserve a lot better.Richard J said:Seems to be a strong favourite for Bradford.
He won't get them promoted, happy to be wrong as he's a nice enough bloke but I don't see him having an established career as a manager.
If he was appointed at Bradford I cannot see their fans being too happy.
Real shame to see Bradford down there, been in league 2 far too long and have cracking home support
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https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/dean-holden-bristol-city-stoke-city-charlton/
Very interesting read. Fraser best 10 in the league though...0 -
He is one of the better midfielders in the division but you have to play a 3 man midfield to see it. Unfortunately Appleton keeps playing him back next to Dobson so he keeps playing shitcafcsinger said:https://www.coachesvoice.com/cv/dean-holden-bristol-city-stoke-city-charlton/
Very interesting read. Fraser best 10 in the league though...1 -
Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.2 -
Agree with a lot of these points, but actually think defensively and getting back he has been sound of late, in fact I think the issue is the position he is playing at the moment, he is playing to deep! He needs more of a free role, but since May has been given that role, he has to play deeper.drawnablank said:Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.3 -
May played up front and then on the right on Saturday, but Fraser was still back next to Dobson as Chem was given the 10 role.DubaiCAFC said:
Agree with a lot of these points, but actually think defensively and getting back he has been sound of late, in fact I think the issue is the position he is playing at the moment, he is playing to deep! He needs more of a free role, but since May has been given that role, he has to play deeper.drawnablank said:Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.We should switch to 3-5-2 and then we’d be able play Fraser and May where they are best, shame our start to the season was so poor as this was Holden’s plan all along but he never had the players to do it0 -
Agree with you that he’s playing too deep. He’s not a conductor or a disruptor. I also think when he plays in the 10 he causes the same issue as well.DubaiCAFC said:
Agree with a lot of these points, but actually think defensively and getting back he has been sound of late, in fact I think the issue is the position he is playing at the moment, he is playing to deep! He needs more of a free role, but since May has been given that role, he has to play deeper.drawnablank said:Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.Watch Sercombe for Cheltenham’s first goal. Also against Reading, he’s goal side and ball side of Lewis Wing, ends up with wing in his blindside in 15 yards of space and leaving. Edun 1 v 2. Thankfully he didn’t score.0 -
I don’t think he’s a 10, I think you have to play a midfield 3 with him on the left for him to be a top player at this level. If he’s not in that exact set up he is exposed. Thats why he was good for Garner and Holden as both played 4-3-3 mostly last season.drawnablank said:
Agree with you that he’s playing too deep. He’s not a conductor or a disruptor. I also think when he plays in the 10 he causes the same issue as well.DubaiCAFC said:
Agree with a lot of these points, but actually think defensively and getting back he has been sound of late, in fact I think the issue is the position he is playing at the moment, he is playing to deep! He needs more of a free role, but since May has been given that role, he has to play deeper.drawnablank said:Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.Watch Sercombe for Cheltenham’s first goal. Also against Reading, he’s goal side and ball side of Lewis Wing, ends up with wing in his blindside in 15 yards of space and leaving. Edun 1 v 2. Thankfully he didn’t score.Appletons 4-2-3-1 doesn’t suit him, he’d be better in the 10 than where he is playing at the moment but I still don’t think he’d be amazing0 - Sponsored links:
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Good point. Also highlights our problem. Having a CM, that needs to play in such a small window to maximise performance. We need more than that.NabySarr said:
I don’t think he’s a 10, I think you have to play a midfield 3 with him on the left for him to be a top player at this level. If he’s not in that exact set up he is exposed. Thats why he was good for Garner and Holden as both played 4-3-3 mostly last season.drawnablank said:
Agree with you that he’s playing too deep. He’s not a conductor or a disruptor. I also think when he plays in the 10 he causes the same issue as well.DubaiCAFC said:
Agree with a lot of these points, but actually think defensively and getting back he has been sound of late, in fact I think the issue is the position he is playing at the moment, he is playing to deep! He needs more of a free role, but since May has been given that role, he has to play deeper.drawnablank said:Fraser is above average technically, has a good touch on his left side, passes well with good pass weight but lacks a little variation of use of foot, he’s very inside the boot only which limits his flow.
A big problem for Fraser, he doesn’t scan before reception at all well enough. Because of that he gets caught out and takes an age on the ball scrambling for an outlet, space or to avoid contact.When he has a picture ahead of his action he moves the ball accurately and quickly.
out of possession he’s a disaster, a lot of runs are to get in to an area rather than win the ball. He lets runners go most of the time it’s a huge issue for us in midfield, but then so does Louis, Chem and Dobbo. Difference with Dobbo is he does it to stop something else, Fraser just can’t be arsed.Watch Sercombe for Cheltenham’s first goal. Also against Reading, he’s goal side and ball side of Lewis Wing, ends up with wing in his blindside in 15 yards of space and leaving. Edun 1 v 2. Thankfully he didn’t score.Appletons 4-2-3-1 doesn’t suit him, he’d be better in the 10 than where he is playing at the moment but I still don’t think he’d be amazingE.G. Alfie, CF, 10, RW he’s going to get about it. Dobbo I’m confident you can play anywhere in midfield and he’d get about it. It’s a mentality and character trait rather than ability.1 -
Problem with Holden describing Fraser as the best 10 in the league is that he never played him there!3
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I’m sure the money is great but honestly surprised at Holden for taking this. Thought he was a better character0 -
Honestly shocked by that0
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Isn't there rumours of Saudi not paying the promised wages hence Henderson leaving0
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I read he left as his family didn’t like it there. I believe Henderson’s contract was to defer his wages to avoid paying tax, nothing to do with his club in Saudi Arabia not paying him.BigRedEvil said:Isn't there rumours of Saudi not paying the promised wages hence Henderson leaving0 -
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Good luck Deano hope it all goes well5
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How does that work family wise. Does he move his family over there or does he travel back to see them?0
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He's hit the jackpot!
Good luck to him.4
