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Dean Holden - Jan 2025: joined the coaching staff at Adana Demispor in Turkey (p47)
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Come on Dean get the scissors on that lads barnet19
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P: 5 W: 3 D:2 L: 0 GF: 14 GA: 4 since this comment 😉.SELR_addicks said:Meh.
I'll give him another year but can't say what I've seen on the pitch has been good.
The constant 'he gets us' while we lose to Accrington, Cambridge and Morecambe will be tiresome.6 -
We play well when we play for nothingFishCostaFortune said:
P: 5 W: 3 D:2 L: 0 GF: 14 GA: 4 since this comment 😉.SELR_addicks said:Meh.
I'll give him another year but can't say what I've seen on the pitch has been good.
The constant 'he gets us' while we lose to Accrington, Cambridge and Morecambe will be tiresome.
Happens most seasons we end up going on a run when midtable is confirmed, odd really.1 -
I think we’ve just had a run of ‘easier’ games and don’t really have our typical injury crisis - but as we’ve seen in the past, we have a habit of doing rubbish and not performing in ‘winnable’ games.SELR_addicks said:
We play well when we play for nothingFishCostaFortune said:
P: 5 W: 3 D:2 L: 0 GF: 14 GA: 4 since this comment 😉.SELR_addicks said:Meh.
I'll give him another year but can't say what I've seen on the pitch has been good.
The constant 'he gets us' while we lose to Accrington, Cambridge and Morecambe will be tiresome.
Happens most seasons we end up going on a run when midtable is confirmed, odd really.
I’m still not convinced, especially once we come up against top 6 teams, so I’ll be interested to see if we can keep this sort of consistency up.0 -
We’re twelve points off the top six - so many more missed opportunities earlier in the season against the likes of Forest Green, Cheltenham, Port Vale, MK.FishCostaFortune said:
I think we’ve just had a run of ‘easier’ games and don’t really have our typical injury crisis - but as we’ve seen in the past, we have a habit of doing rubbish and not performing in ‘winnable’ games.SELR_addicks said:
We play well when we play for nothingFishCostaFortune said:
P: 5 W: 3 D:2 L: 0 GF: 14 GA: 4 since this comment 😉.SELR_addicks said:Meh.
I'll give him another year but can't say what I've seen on the pitch has been good.
The constant 'he gets us' while we lose to Accrington, Cambridge and Morecambe will be tiresome.
Happens most seasons we end up going on a run when midtable is confirmed, odd really.
I’m still not convinced, especially once we come up against top 6 teams, so I’ll be interested to see if we can keep this sort of consistency up.
It certainly would’ve been helpful to pick up more points from games against Bolton, Derby, Sheff Wed and Plymouth because every match is worth three points.
But I’m just glad to see we’re finally looking like regularly beating teams below and around us. Long may that continue.1 -
Holden post match interview full of praise for the performance but tinged with a bit of heartache.He’s openly wondering why it’s taken us until this point to start playing like this.3
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Yeah….he’s almost as bad as Southgate as well.SELR_addicks said:Parkinson version 2.0.0 -
Yeah totally, there’s not been enough of this sort of performance - and not just this year.Callumcafc said:Holden post match interview full of praise for the performance but tinged with a bit of heartache.He’s openly wondering why it’s taken us until this point to start playing like this.
Quiet often we’ve pulled really battling strong performances against ‘better’ opposition and then completely failed to dominate in games where you really feel we should.
I’ll keep banging the drum around this, but for me this year is our major issue is when we have underperformed we’ve not managed to remain tight at the back and get those scrappy 1-0’s. Our defence has just been far to leaky for us to mount anything serious.It wouldn’t really see us anywhere near the automatics, but we could have been pushing top 6 if it was not for those 1-1’s - especially early in the season.4 -
FishCostaFortune said:
Yeah totally, there’s not been enough of this sort of performance - and not just this year.Callumcafc said:Holden post match interview full of praise for the performance but tinged with a bit of heartache.He’s openly wondering why it’s taken us until this point to start playing like this.
Quiet often we’ve pulled really battling strong performances against ‘better’ opposition and then completely failed to dominate in games where you really feel we should.
I’ll keep banging the drum around this, but for me this year is our major issue is when we have underperformed we’ve not managed to remain tight at the back and get those scrappy 1-0’s. Our defence has just been far to leaky for us to mount anything serious.It wouldn’t really see us anywhere near the automatics, but we could have been pushing top 6 if it was not for those 1-1’s - especially early in the season.Yep… the results below from a CAFC team at this level 🤢🤮Charlton 1-1 Cambridge (23rd)
Charlton 1-1 Forest Green (24th)
Charlton 1-1 Oxford (20th)
Charlton 0-2 MK (19th)
Charlton 0-1 Cheltenham (16th)
Charlton 1-2 Bristol Rovers (15th)
3 points from a possible 18…7 - Sponsored links:
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We've been an average midtable League One side this year, that's why we've ended up.....in midtable.
There's no whitewashing this season, we've been rubbish.6 -
Callumcafc said:Holden post match interview full of praise for the performance but tinged with a bit of heartache.He’s openly wondering why it’s taken us until this point to start playing like this.
I'll tell him why, it's win a new contract time. And it's easier to play when not under any pressure league position wise.0 -
Adam Matthews definitely deserves another contract after that performance.14
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Played 39, won 13, drawn 13, lost 13 would tend to back this up…SELR_addicks said:We've been an average midtable League One side this year, that's why we've ended up.....in midtable.
There's no whitewashing this season, we've been rubbish.2 -
Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)3 -
I remember Garnerball.Callumcafc said:FishCostaFortune said:
Yeah totally, there’s not been enough of this sort of performance - and not just this year.Callumcafc said:Holden post match interview full of praise for the performance but tinged with a bit of heartache.He’s openly wondering why it’s taken us until this point to start playing like this.
Quiet often we’ve pulled really battling strong performances against ‘better’ opposition and then completely failed to dominate in games where you really feel we should.
I’ll keep banging the drum around this, but for me this year is our major issue is when we have underperformed we’ve not managed to remain tight at the back and get those scrappy 1-0’s. Our defence has just been far to leaky for us to mount anything serious.It wouldn’t really see us anywhere near the automatics, but we could have been pushing top 6 if it was not for those 1-1’s - especially early in the season.Yep… the results below from a CAFC team at this level 🤢🤮Charlton 1-1 Cambridge (23rd)
Charlton 1-1 Forest Green (24th)
Charlton 1-1 Oxford (20th)
Charlton 0-2 MK (19th)
Charlton 0-1 Cheltenham (16th)
Charlton 1-2 Bristol Rovers (15th)
3 points from a possible 18…
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If we took Holden's PPG and spread it out over the course of the season we'd be in the dizzying heights of....10th.Callumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)2 -
Two things to consider here:
1. New managers generally come into clubs when there are serious problems. Definitely the case with us.
2. Holden is a relatively inexperienced manager.
Therefore, all in all, I think he’s done a very good job so far.7 -
Excellent post match interview also.0
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SELR_addicks said:
If we took Holden's PPG and spread it out over the course of the season we'd be in the dizzying heights of....10th.Callumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)
And only 3 points or so off the play-offs... not good enough no, but is that down to the manager or the players?
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Suggests that the squad is more likely to be the problem than the manager really. Not that we weren't thinking that alreadyCallumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)1 -
60 points, and with a genuine chance of making the playoffs as Bolton and Derby are both strugglingCallumcafc said:SELR_addicks said:
If we took Holden's PPG and spread it out over the course of the season we'd be in the dizzying heights of....10th.Callumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)
And only 3 points or so off the play-offs... not good enough no, but is that down to the manager or the players?
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Tbf if Garner had not lost Leaburn to injury those records would probably be a lot closer. Leaburn has also improved a lot which has benefitted Holden. I think both managers performed as expected with what they had, but the problem has been what they had to work withCallumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)9 -
I think that sums up all our managers over the last few yearsNabySarr said:
Tbf if Garner had not lost Leaburn to injury those records would probably be a lot closer. Leaburn has also improved a lot which has benefitted Holden. I think both managers performed as expected with what they had, but the problem has been what they had to work withCallumcafc said:Holden: played 18, won 8, drawn 4, lost 6 (1.55ppg)
Hayes: played 1, lost 1
Garner: played 20, won 5, drew 9, lost 6 (1.2ppg)0 -
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One thing that Holden has done better than Garner (arguably) and Jackson (definitely) is sticking to the Curbs mantra of not letting highs be too high or lows too low.
When results have turned or we've had a loss then the players have generally seemed to "reset" and start again instead of the streaky performances of before with a run of wins that get derailed by a poor game and suddenly going on a string of losses instead.4 -
Potential new song for our manager…
Oh baby, do you know what he’s worth
Dean Holden is the best on Earth
With his ginger hair he’s just what we need
Taking Charlton up the football league
If this takes off I’ll take my credit. If it doesn’t, you have never heard of Sage before and I was never here. 8 -
Leuth said:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI04WqdLaYM