Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Thats an important point that most people forget in the CharltonLife bubble, 90% of the Charlton fan base is nowhere near as engaged in the club enough to bother signing up to an Internet forum about it. Most Charlton fans I meet my age (30s) have never even heard of CharltonLife.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am. In fact Id wager far more people are active on the various club Charlton fan Facebook groups than CL.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Thats an important point that most people forget in the CharltonLife bubble, 90% of the Charlton fan base is nowhere near as engaged in the club enough to bother signing up to an Internet forum about it. Most Charlton fans I meet my age (30s) have never even heard of CharltonLife.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am.
Tbh, I've noticed that more re' the criticism of some player. Most Charlton fans I know who don't post on here, generally have a different opinion on who's shit / who's got potential / who's mustard, most notable being Elliot Lee.
“If and when we start improving on the football side, it’s all going to click.“
If…IF…????????
.…brilliant…
Jesus wept, the knives are out
Actually no, I just find it surprising that he can be so uncertain yet so specific in the same sentence!
Because he said "If"?
Maybe he meant to say or was implying "If or when...."? But think it's worth remembering Englsh is his 2nd language, regardless how long he's spoken it so he might stumble on colloquialisms such as "If or indeed when...." 🤷♂️
It just struck me as a toned down version of his blow through the league comment. No knives out, would love nothing more than for Thomas to be the most successful owner in the history of football: for obvious reasons!
It's exhausting to read all the constant negativity on here, fuck knows how some of you live, nay revel in it day in day out...
If you can genuinely point out what part of his plan makes sense please do. Until then I can't see him as anything other than a more charismatic and well intended Roland Mark 2.
I like him. I want him to succeed. But based on the interview I see nothing that suggests he actually will.
Based on a few words said in an interview? I assume it is a long term plan that will yield results over time, not right this very second.
I agree with Dazzler though....constant griping and agg at majority of aspects of Charlton no matter what is said or done...TS could promise a fan a million pound and people on here would moan it isnt 2 million!
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Yeah but they're crying out for a CEO, apparently
They’re not, but that’s not the issue either. People who have enough interest in these things do overwhelmingly believe a chief exec is needed. That isn’t to say that it’s a main concern of most fans, but that’s not the point.
Personally I have no issues with the interview, was open, honest and realistic of the situation! He has invested money in to the playing side.
Maybe not having a CEO on board is a bit rookie - but untimely would they affect how poorly we have been on the pitch no! Only thing they might have influenced might have been the appointment of Jackson, at the point of appointing him, if they hadn’t, the fans would have turned quickly!!
It’s going to be a big summer, and as fans we need to be realistic of who will come through the door..
I think the belief is an experienced football CEO would in turn bring in people with proven ability in player recruitment which should result in better signings. Add to that they wouldn’t make mistakes like giving away thousands of free tickets, stopping fans from being able to buy seats together.
There’s been a change in that area with GR going and MS coming in - I think you can see why many have doubts about the owner appointing his son as director of analysis?
I don't think enough people, including myself, know enough about what a director of analysis does, to be too overly critical about the appointment, but it's another it's another stick to beat TS with regardless
It would help if he described the nature of the role and the skills and experience that his son has that makes him suitable for it, in a manner that sounded more like a CEO and less like a proud Dad.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Thats an important point that most people forget in the CharltonLife bubble, 90% of the Charlton fan base is nowhere near as engaged in the club enough to bother signing up to an Internet forum about it. Most Charlton fans I meet my age (30s) have never even heard of CharltonLife.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am. In fact Id wager far more people are active on the various club Charlton fan Facebook groups than CL.
Good point. Several of my close family are ST holders at Charlton; my son, my brother, my nephew, my niece and 2 cousins. Plus my daughter and some other cousins follow the club. Out of those only myself (daily) and my son (rarely) visit CL. Some of the others follow on facebook sites. Having said that I think CL has a reach far in excess of it's membership, particularly in respect of campaigns and such. It's the only place to be.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Yeah but they're crying out for a CEO, apparently
They’re not, but that’s not the issue either. People who have enough interest in these things do overwhelmingly believe a chief exec is needed. That isn’t to say that it’s a main concern of most fans, but that’s not the point.
I agree that a CEO is needed, but just don't feel the issue warrants the attention it gets
Personally I have no issues with the interview, was open, honest and realistic of the situation! He has invested money in to the playing side.
Maybe not having a CEO on board is a bit rookie - but untimely would they affect how poorly we have been on the pitch no! Only thing they might have influenced might have been the appointment of Jackson, at the point of appointing him, if they hadn’t, the fans would have turned quickly!!
It’s going to be a big summer, and as fans we need to be realistic of who will come through the door..
I think the belief is an experienced football CEO would in turn bring in people with proven ability in player recruitment which should result in better signings. Add to that they wouldn’t make mistakes like giving away thousands of free tickets, stopping fans from being able to buy seats together.
There’s been a change in that area with GR going and MS coming in - I think you can see why many have doubts about the owner appointing his son as director of analysis?
I don't think enough people, including myself, know enough about what a director of analysis does, to be too overly critical about the appointment, but it's another it's another stick to beat TS with regardless
It would help if he described the nature of the role and the skills and experience that his son has that makes him suitable for it, in a manner that sounded more like a CEO and less like a proud Dad.
Maybe he is a proud dad, but I didn't think his son was a CEO. I thoughs he was in charge of analytics?
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Yeah but they're crying out for a CEO, apparently
They’re not, but that’s not the issue either. People who have enough interest in these things do overwhelmingly believe a chief exec is needed. That isn’t to say that it’s a main concern of most fans, but that’s not the point.
I agree that a CEO is needed, but just don't feel the issue warrants the attention it gets
Everything wrong at Charlton used to be blamed on Ged Roddy. Now he's gone, it's blamed on the absence of a CEO.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Thats an important point that most people forget in the CharltonLife bubble, 90% of the Charlton fan base is nowhere near as engaged in the club enough to bother signing up to an Internet forum about it. Most Charlton fans I meet my age (30s) have never even heard of CharltonLife.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am. In fact Id wager far more people are active on the various club Charlton fan Facebook groups than CL.
Good point. Several of my close family are ST holders at Charlton; my son, my brother, my nephew, my niece and 2 cousins. Plus my daughter and some other cousins follow the club. Out of those only myself (daily) and my son (rarely) visit CL. Some of the others follow on facebook sites. Having said that I think CL has a reach far in excess of it's membership, particularly in respect of campaigns and such. It's the only place to be.
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Yeah but they're crying out for a CEO, apparently
They’re not, but that’s not the issue either. People who have enough interest in these things do overwhelmingly believe a chief exec is needed. That isn’t to say that it’s a main concern of most fans, but that’s not the point.
I agree that a CEO is needed, but just don't feel the issue warrants the attention it gets
Everything wrong at Charlton used to be blamed on Ged Roddy. Now he's gone, it's blamed on the absence of a CEO.
And if there was a fully qualified, all singing all dancing, fur lined, ocean going, CEO in place, they'd be the wrong person. Unless of course we were top table when they'd be marvelous
Personally I have no issues with the interview, was open, honest and realistic of the situation! He has invested money in to the playing side.
Maybe not having a CEO on board is a bit rookie - but untimely would they affect how poorly we have been on the pitch no! Only thing they might have influenced might have been the appointment of Jackson, at the point of appointing him, if they hadn’t, the fans would have turned quickly!!
It’s going to be a big summer, and as fans we need to be realistic of who will come through the door..
I think the belief is an experienced football CEO would in turn bring in people with proven ability in player recruitment which should result in better signings. Add to that they wouldn’t make mistakes like giving away thousands of free tickets, stopping fans from being able to buy seats together.
There’s been a change in that area with GR going and MS coming in - I think you can see why many have doubts about the owner appointing his son as director of analysis?
I don't think enough people, including myself, know enough about what a director of analysis does, to be too overly critical about the appointment, but it's another it's another stick to beat TS with regardless
It would help if he described the nature of the role and the skills and experience that his son has that makes him suitable for it, in a manner that sounded more like a CEO and less like a proud Dad.
Maybe he is a proud dad, but I didn't think his son was a CEO. I thoughs he was in charge of analytics?
You misunderstand. TS sounded more like a proud dad talking about his son, rather than a CEO fully explaining why his son is qualified to fulfill the role.
I note Thomas reckons on being here about one week in four, and then to spend the vast majority of that time at the training ground. Not sure if that's helpful. When my boss used to attend jobs with me it was a bloody nightmare.
If we were top of the table, would the toilets, tickets and back office personnel be given a 2nd thought?
Absolutely not, it’s like clockwork.
Few results go our way ‘we’ve got our Charlton back!’
Few results don’t ‘league 2 beckons, fackin sack everyone’.
hopefully our owner is headstrong and ignores the majority of social media. Cause I personally don’t know how I’d take it if I saved a club that had a fan base begging to be saved and now that same fan base are turning on him while he’s in his learning period as as football club owner. Let’s have it right every player he’s signed has looked very good on paper, unfortunately it doesn’t always work as simple as that.
The only two concerns I’ve taken from that interview is the trust in his son being involved (doesn’t sound promising) and that he is genuinely considering Jackson for next season. Might be because of how much our fan base begged him and now he feels we would turn? Just to play devils advocate
Think people need to actually take up some hobbies outside Charlton or just take a break after they’ve watched the game sometimes
Personally I have no issues with the interview, was open, honest and realistic of the situation! He has invested money in to the playing side.
Maybe not having a CEO on board is a bit rookie - but untimely would they affect how poorly we have been on the pitch no! Only thing they might have influenced might have been the appointment of Jackson, at the point of appointing him, if they hadn’t, the fans would have turned quickly!!
It’s going to be a big summer, and as fans we need to be realistic of who will come through the door..
I think the belief is an experienced football CEO would in turn bring in people with proven ability in player recruitment which should result in better signings. Add to that they wouldn’t make mistakes like giving away thousands of free tickets, stopping fans from being able to buy seats together.
There’s been a change in that area with GR going and MS coming in - I think you can see why many have doubts about the owner appointing his son as director of analysis?
I don't think enough people, including myself, know enough about what a director of analysis does, to be too overly critical about the appointment, but it's another it's another stick to beat TS with regardless
It would help if he described the nature of the role and the skills and experience that his son has that makes him suitable for it, in a manner that sounded more like a CEO and less like a proud Dad.
Maybe he is a proud dad, but I didn't think his son was a CEO. I thoughs he was in charge of analytics?
You misunderstand. TS sounded more like a proud dad talking about his son, rather than a CEO fully explaining why his son is qualified to fulfill the role.
The club appears to be rudderless and is being run by a man in the USA, who comes over once a month and by his own admission is jet lagged until the afternoon.
What clued up employer would appoint an executive CEO, who was based abroad working for another company 75% of the time, but could pop over here one week in four to run the show jet lagged?
Ok, if we weren't heading for our lowest finish in over 50 years, I may feel different, but we are.
It's not his fault, it's the fault of previous administrations, but he's moved us backward on the pitch not forwards and we have fans who can't buy a ticket, because he's arranged to give out free tickets as far away as Surrey.
He thinks he can increase revenues by £8Mpa.
When RD thought he could get support from South West London we thought he was deluded and yet this guy is giving out tickets in Surrey that will surely not be used (mainly).
Ok, he probably doesn't know that, which proves the point that we need a competent football person running the club that knows what is going on and can make competent football decisions.
I support TS and I want him to be a great success, but I don't see any sign of a successful plan after some considerable time.
Is it just me but I'm really struggling to care about Charlton at the moment especially considering with real tragedy unfolding elsewhere in the world .
Shit on the pitch, off field issues raising their heads again. Just bored with it all after so many years of ownership problems. For what it's worth I think Thomas is a good guy and his intentions are good, just the execution so far hasn't been good
Fair enough @MillwallFan@Big_Bad_World its certainly the impression I get when I occasionally read a Millwall forum similar to this and appears much greater than a minority view, but more than happy to accept if you say that’s not accurate. I’d be delighted to have him here btw so I’m not attempting to slight him .
Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
The key two things that (from the little I know) off the pitch need addressing is a big improvement in the ticketing & marketing strategy and getting to grips with what seems to be a fair bit of behind the scenes unhappiness. My preference is that Sandgaard engaged a competent on the ground CEO but I don’t think it’s an essential need. Sandgaard as de facto CEO and his senior management team need to be doing a better job with regard to those couple of points.
I’m not convinced that had he Roddy, Gallen and Adkins got the footballing strategy right this year any of this would be attracting meaningful discussion.
If you relied on here you'd think there was a lynch mob for Tony Keohane gathering in Floyd Road, but I guarantee you that at least 90% of Charlton fans have never heard of him or, if they have, couldn't tell you who he is, what he does or point him out in a police line-up.
Thats an important point that most people forget in the CharltonLife bubble, 90% of the Charlton fan base is nowhere near as engaged in the club enough to bother signing up to an Internet forum about it. Most Charlton fans I meet my age (30s) have never even heard of CharltonLife.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am. In fact Id wager far more people are active on the various club Charlton fan Facebook groups than CL.
Agreed, and to be honest why should any fan need to know who the likes of Keohane or Parkes are, the only important thing for the vast majority of fans is the performance and results on the pitch and I would wager that applies to most clubs.
Somebody is going to need to spell it out for me what makes TS and RD so similar.
Because in the case of TS, I see someone who has put very decent money into the playing squad and tried his best to build a connection with fans. Whereas, with RD, we had someone who wanted to bring in network players and managers through a revolving door whilst being universally despised to the point we had to protest before, during and after games.
If the only link people can find is “he likes to do things his own way”, then that’s pretty tenuous.
I think because....
RD - Business plan was to take a second division football club that was struggling financially due to the previous owners and run it as a break even business, he aimed to do this by:
Developing and selling players using the clubs academy Keeping running costs to a minimum Investing just enough into the playing squad to have a decent starting 11 Play the transfer market by using his network of clubs and youth set up to plug gaps in the playing squad Increasing and promoting the clubs commercial activity with a "match day experience"
This task was mainly left to his inexperienced CEO to carry out, he had a plan and wasnt going to budge on it for anyone or anything, he listened to very specific people and that was that.
General feeling is, he failed, he didnt invest enough into the squad, which was usually too thin to make it through a whole season, running costs became slashed which had an affect on general morale, his CEO was often made to look a fool due to the inexperience where personal vendettas then came about, there was a massive void in comms from the club throughout his time and as a result of all this the ownership were hounded out the club.
TS - Business plan is to take a third division football club that was struggling financially due to the mish mash of previous "owners" and run it as a break even business, he aims to do this by:
Developing and selling players using the clubs academy Developing and selling players using the transfer market Play the transfer market by looking for bargains and using contacts in the game
Investing into a strong starting 11 and using the youth set up to plug gaps in the playing squad. increasing and promoting the clubs commercial activity by getting more fans in. *running costs have been rumoured to have not changed much.
This task is left to himself and his own admitted, lack of experience, the football industry isnt complicated, he has his plan and common sense will get us there.
General feeling is, excitement! football needs a shake up and TS is the man to do it!
Playing devils advocate, and I know Sandgaard has only done 3 transfer windows but RD did bring in :
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Don’t want this becoming a Millwall thread so will leave it at that.
My point I wanted to make was that currently everyone is shouting for us to have a CEO, but there is no guarantee (I’ll use Katrien and Daniel Levy) that that person will be either effective, liked or good from a supporter perspective.
Your average Charlton fan turns up to the home games, and perhaps reads the programme/website and get their Charlton news from the local paper/news site or a mate at the pub. Thats as far as it goes. In terms of staff their knowledge doesnt go beyond the players, Jacko and TS. They probably hadn't even heard of Chris Parkes until the website announced his retirement.
I signed up to CL because I use a lot of Internet forums for my other life interests, so it wasnt a stretch for me to look up a Charlton forum, and here I am. In fact Id wager far more people are active on the various club Charlton fan Facebook groups than CL.
Maybe he meant to say or was implying "If or when...."? But think it's worth remembering Englsh is his 2nd language, regardless how long he's spoken it so he might stumble on colloquialisms such as "If or indeed when...." 🤷♂️
No knives out, would love nothing more than for Thomas to be the most successful owner in the history of football: for obvious reasons!
I agree with Dazzler though....constant griping and agg at majority of aspects of Charlton no matter what is said or done...TS could promise a fan a million pound and people on here would moan it isnt 2 million!
Several of my close family are ST holders at Charlton; my son, my brother, my nephew, my niece and 2 cousins. Plus my daughter and some other cousins follow the club.
Out of those only myself (daily) and my son (rarely) visit CL.
Some of the others follow on facebook sites.
Having said that I think CL has a reach far in excess of it's membership, particularly in respect of campaigns and such. It's the only place to be.
TS sounded more like a proud dad talking about his son, rather than a CEO fully explaining why his son is qualified to fulfill the role.
hopefully our owner is headstrong and ignores the majority of social media. Cause I personally don’t know how I’d take it if I saved a club that had a fan base begging to be saved and now that same fan base are turning on him while he’s in his learning period as as football club owner. Let’s have it right every player he’s signed has looked very good on paper, unfortunately it doesn’t always work as simple as that.
Think people need to actually take up some hobbies outside Charlton or just take a break after they’ve watched the game sometimes
Sandgaard out!!!
What clued up employer would appoint an executive CEO, who was based abroad working for another company 75% of the time, but could pop over here one week in four to run the show jet lagged?
Ok, if we weren't heading for our lowest finish in over 50 years, I may feel different, but we are.
It's not his fault, it's the fault of previous administrations, but he's moved us backward on the pitch not forwards and we have fans who can't buy a ticket, because he's arranged to give out free tickets as far away as Surrey.
He thinks he can increase revenues by £8Mpa.
When RD thought he could get support from South West London we thought he was deluded and yet this guy is giving out tickets in Surrey that will surely not be used (mainly).
Ok, he probably doesn't know that, which proves the point that we need a competent football person running the club that knows what is going on and can make competent football decisions.
I support TS and I want him to be a great success, but I don't see any sign of a successful plan after some considerable time.
Shit on the pitch, off field issues raising their heads again. Just bored with it all after so many years of ownership problems. For what it's worth I think Thomas is a good guy and his intentions are good, just the execution so far hasn't been good
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