If we was in games, and just lacking that little bit of quality I'd be more inclined to give him time.
However, the manner of defeats are alarming. You can argue "we're only 7 games in" but we have lost 5 of them and bar 15 minutes against Cheltenham haven't looked remotely competitive in any of those games.
Yes, we beat Crewe but I think that says more about them than us and if Barry Bannan hadn't missed an absolute sitter we would have been looking at 6 defeats from 7.
Let's not forget about the dismal League Cup performance either.
When you're 7 games in and already getting desperate enough to drop 3 or 4 players from the squad completely and then have a good chunk of an away end calling for your head, you're just delaying the inevitable. There is no coming back from it.
This. It’s scary how bad we are, I got lol’d for this a few weeks ago but we are only 5/10 games away from a relegation battle should this continue.
Was not keen on appointment of Adkins Sheff Utd fans I know said he just talks a load of bullshit think said that on here when he was appointed.
The thing with me is how obvious things are his not changing waiting to half time then still not changing. That’s what I liked about curbs and bowyer they spotted stuff and changed it adkins has had 7 games one success playing 442 ok could say against a poor Crewe but we had more shots on target in that one game than the other 6 put together. Then he went back to to 4231 which isn’t working because our target man is isolated.
apart from the Crewe game we have had stockley up front with 2 wide players and all these 3 players are to far apart and isolated being easily marked out the game when we have the ball they are all marked so we end knocking ball to stockley as our only option he has at least 2 defenders on him and even if he wins the ball normally has no one to pass too.
So we have basically 3 players out of the game and there is no restbite for the rest of the team because the ball just comes straight
Adkins made 6 changes Saturday and basically played same tactics again which says he blames the players we got same result as the other fixtures but worse we had a midfield 2 which people say you can’t play with in today’s game because it’s not strong against 5. So if 442 is not playable against a 5 man midfieldi so how would 343.
Adkins main transfer target was stockley he is know hinting he his dropping stockley as he is the problem now. It’s so obvious stockley needs a partner. He can’t play on his own to me we need 2 players up top end off I think we should play 532 with wing backs 442 4312 I think Lee in the number 10 role roaming anywhere would work well I think I said last 2 games If Adkins plays stockley up front on his own he should be sacked thick he’ll drop stockley and play same tactics again and we will get same result he just doesn’t have the flexibility in tactics like Robinson
It's as much about the performances as the results for me
If we somehow win tomorrow because Gillingham are terrible and we are merely slightly less terrible, all that would do is paper over the cracks until we play a half decent side
Yep, me too.
The lack of performance, desire, enthusiasm from players - let alone set up and gameplan, are the warning siren for me.
I quite like Mr Adkins, his positivity and bonhomie. But it's a results game - and we ain't getting results either.
Dear Nige, you've either got to turn it round PDQ or it's au revoir mate.
If we was in games, and just lacking that little bit of quality I'd be more inclined to give him time.
However, the manner of defeats are alarming. You can argue "we're only 7 games in" but we have lost 5 of them and bar 15 minutes against Cheltenham haven't looked remotely competitive in any of those games.
Yes, we beat Crewe but I think that says more about them than us and if Barry Bannan hadn't missed an absolute sitter we would have been looking at 6 defeats from 7.
Let's not forget about the dismal League Cup performance either.
When you're 7 games in and already getting desperate enough to drop 3 or 4 players from the squad completely and then have a good chunk of an away end calling for your head, you're just delaying the inevitable. There is no coming back from it.
This. It’s scary how bad we are, I got lol’d for this a few weeks ago but we are only 5/10 games away from a relegation battle should this continue.
You haven’t learnt your lesson then
What lesson? I don’t know which part of it is funny, enlighten me please. If it’s about the relegation battle which we could potentially be in should our form continue in this way for the next say, 7 games, we’d look like this:
W2 D 2 L10
Is that relegation threatening enough or is it still funny?
Didn’t The late great Jimmy Greaves once say “it’s a funny old game “ ? He was right. So far this season has been awful but things in football can change very quickly and unexpectedly. We go again tomorrow at a shitty venue where inevitably we do badly. Perhaps we need just a random piece of luck for things to happen. I still don’t believe Adkins has suddenly lost it. Things have just been shit. Shit happens. I’m predicting our luck turns. A one nil victory against the pikeys and a battling point v Pompey.
We have seen this happen a lot of times in football, quite often after a change of management. People can quote examples like Fergie but it is telling that was in the 80s. I do wonder why good managers find it hard to turn it round at a club, is it attitudes of players, fans or the general result of a lack of confidence that goes hand in hand with the malaise that can occur. It does feel that Adkins has to start winning quickly and I would suggest he tries to go all guns blazing. If you try to defend and avoid defeat, you just can't stop the brittle confidence resulting in defensive mistakes.
Blimey. Its almost like some of us want to go a goal down so we can get on his back.
Genuinely can't believe how quickly people have turned in him, and the extent of the dislike.
He has lost 5/7 after being given a hefty transfer budget in comparison to bowyer.
I don’t dislike him, I think he is underperforming massively which as a football manager, increases the risk of losing the fans support
Except that Adkins said he doesn't pick who got brought in, so it's not like he's spunked the budget himself. Bowyer had no budget, but he had a big say in who we got, and got better quality players with less money. The play-off promotion side would run rings around this current crop.
I don't dispute he's under performing, but to be booed before HT with chants of 'getting sacked in the morning'? Just think it's early for it to have turned so ugly.
The only way I can see him turning things around is to go 442.
However defensively he has still got to stop the crosses coming, so he needs to play a solid midfield with a couple of quicker attackers so that we can brake quickly when we regain possession.
Blimey. Its almost like some of us want to go a goal down so we can get on his back.
Genuinely can't believe how quickly people have turned in him, and the extent of the dislike.
This is just my opinion…..But it’s the positively thing - these stupid Twitter posts. Now I’m all for being positive - particularly with what’s gone on at the club in the past, but all fans care about is results. everything he says is tripe - “trust you’ve all slept well”… yeah great nige, we are 2nd bottom in league one. “Make the most of the day everyone” what like you do in training - the results on the pitch don’t lie. “The birds are singing” honestly who gives a shit? “Keep a smile on your face” of course nige, we’ve got loads to smile about.
If you are going to talk a good game, you have to back it up - he isn’t able to do that.
Blimey. Its almost like some of us want to go a goal down so we can get on his back.
Genuinely can't believe how quickly people have turned in him, and the extent of the dislike.
He has lost 5/7 after being given a hefty transfer budget in comparison to bowyer.
I don’t dislike him, I think he is underperforming massively which as a football manager, increases the risk of losing the fans support
Except that Adkins said he doesn't pick who got brought in, so it's not like he's spunked the budget himself. Bowyer had no budget, but he had a big say in who we got, and got better quality players with less money. The play-off promotion side would run rings around this current crop.
I don't dispute he's under performing, but to be booed before HT with chants of 'getting sacked in the morning'? Just think it's early for it to have turned so ugly.
But it's not too early really, we have had soundbites about 25 clean sheets, blowing the league out the water, 5 years til prem footy, we get told that we have a great squad and competition for all places, that Stockley is The Headmaster, one of the most dangerous strikers in the league, that we are a "huge club" that should be going back up the leagues, and yet we find ourselves in the bottom 3, more losses already than our record setting 101 point season (something which before the start of the season people were saying we will be trying to emulate)
When all that gets put out in the public, the average fans' expectations rise, and when current form dictates we'll actually more likely to see Conference Premier football than Premier League football in 5 years, it's not surprising they're booing.
Will we get relegated this season? IMO not a chance, but if we are to have any hope of turning around our fortunes and going after a playoff position, something has to change between the Management, coaches and players. The players are set 'til January, so I believe we need a change in the coaching/management set up
Blimey. Its almost like some of us want to go a goal down so we can get on his back.
Genuinely can't believe how quickly people have turned in him, and the extent of the dislike.
This is just my opinion…..But it’s the positively thing - these stupid Twitter posts. Now I’m all for being positive - particularly with what’s gone on at the club in the past, but all fans care about is results. everything he says is tripe - “trust you’ve all slept well”… yeah great nige, we are 2nd bottom in league one. “Make the most of the day everyone” what like you do in training - the results on the pitch don’t lie. “The birds are singing” honestly who gives a shit? “Keep a smile on your face” of course nige, we’ve got loads to smile about.
If you are going to talk a good game, you have to back it up - he isn’t able to do that.
You youngsters need to spend less time on Twitter.
It's almost time to start distinguishing between the Thomas Sangaard who saved the club, for which almost all of us are massively grateful, and the Thomas Sangaard who is now running the club (from afar) and seems to have created a situation where we were (possibly misguidedly) expecting a promotion push and instead we are in a real risk of being dragged into a relegation fight which seemed more like in the days of Duchatalet than now. He has brought with him a mass of goodwill but it is eroding rapidly.
I thought Adkins was a good appointment and still have lingering faith that all might be well. But something is clearly not right within the club and a win at Gillingham won't put that right. We have three games in eight days. I think things will be a lot clearer after that ... I am just worried about what that clarity will bring.
There was clearly a policy change regarding loan signings this summer, as the 4 loanees are all experienced players (Lee, Arter) or players we know already (Leko, Famewo), and of the 4, 3 come from Championship clubs, and the other from a PL/Championship yo-yo club.
None of them are "Big 6" academy players, whereas previously we've regularly had such a player, some really successful, some disappearing without a trace. It's clearly been a policy change, to not bring in a Maatsen type of young pacey LB, or go after the likes of Troy Parrott
You tease.... have you heard something or just your own opinion he may consider us ?!
I’ve no idea what CEL meant but I suspect it might mean that Charlton for now at least are not a club he’d dismiss out of hand. I think a vision could be sold to him by TS. Having said that I can’t see him working with restraints on player identification and having full control over the football side of things. That would quite possible the Stumbling block.
Dunno by the sounds of things he was prepared to work with Roland of all people, hasnt he admitted in recent interviews that he only needed to sign the Contract that was on the table. Only Sheffield United came in with an offer at the very last minute.
It would be ironic that Wilder hesitated under Roland Duchatelet because of not having enough say on transfers and we seem to be in the same position with Adkins under Thomas Sandgaard, and the Gallen/Roddy pecking order and when the manager comes into the equation ?
Is the actually a fact that Adkins didn’t get a say in identifying players brought in ? Haven't heard that before. If it’s true then all Adkins is, is a coach not manager. We’re stuffed until we get a true manager again. That’s going to upset the hierarchy applecart methinks.
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adkins has had 7 games one success playing 442 ok could say against a poor Crewe but we had more shots on target in that one game than the other 6 put together. Then he went back to to 4231 which isn’t working because our target man is isolated.
to me we need 2 players up top end off
I think we should play
532 with wing backs
442
4312 I think Lee in the number 10 role roaming anywhere would work well
I think I said last 2 games If Adkins plays stockley up front on his own he should be sacked thick he’ll drop stockley and play same tactics again and we will get same result
he just doesn’t have the flexibility in tactics like Robinson
The lack of performance, desire, enthusiasm from players - let alone set up and gameplan, are the warning siren for me.
I quite like Mr Adkins, his positivity and bonhomie.
But it's a results game - and we ain't getting results either.
Dear Nige, you've either got to turn it round PDQ or it's au revoir mate.
W2 D 2 L10
Is that relegation threatening enough or is it still funny?
I don't dispute he's under performing, but to be booed before HT with chants of 'getting sacked in the morning'? Just think it's early for it to have turned so ugly.
However defensively he has still got to stop the crosses coming, so he needs to play a solid midfield with a couple of quicker attackers so that we can brake quickly when we regain possession.
Can’t continue with Stockley in this system imho.
When all that gets put out in the public, the average fans' expectations rise, and when current form dictates we'll actually more likely to see Conference Premier football than Premier League football in 5 years, it's not surprising they're booing.
Will we get relegated this season? IMO not a chance, but if we are to have any hope of turning around our fortunes and going after a playoff position, something has to change between the Management, coaches and players. The players are set 'til January, so I believe we need a change in the coaching/management set up
I thought Adkins was a good appointment and still have lingering faith that all might be well. But something is clearly not right within the club and a win at Gillingham won't put that right. We have three games in eight days. I think things will be a lot clearer after that ... I am just worried about what that clarity will bring.
Why would I want more uncertainty and instability at this club?
None of them are "Big 6" academy players, whereas previously we've regularly had such a player, some really successful, some disappearing without a trace. It's clearly been a policy change, to not bring in a Maatsen type of young pacey LB, or go after the likes of Troy Parrott
It would be ironic that Wilder hesitated under Roland Duchatelet because of not having enough say on transfers and we seem to be in the same position with Adkins under Thomas Sandgaard, and the Gallen/Roddy pecking order and when the manager comes into the equation ?
If you want him gone , you want him gone.
None of this I want you gone BUT if you win 3 games I'll be singing your name from the rooftops.