There’s more chance of me eating a tender baby lamb kebab with a side order of juvinile gooses fois gras than of Adkins being booted anytime soon. The death by a thousand cuts continues.
But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order. He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager. People have such a blood lust.
get curbs in as dof and to replace roddy, sack adkins and bring mick marcathy in - let roddy be a consultant to advise on the plans for the academy upgrade but get him away from the coaching set up, recruitment or anything else he can damage - chuck the black box and review gallen's position - ASAP
McCarthy? Please no more tactical dinosaurs.
I'd have him in a heartbeat. I don't want new formations and expansive football. I want some no nonsense bollocks that will keep us up.
But some of the stuff being put out on social media is out of order. He’s a decent human being, just not a very good football manager. People have such a blood lust.
Yes I agree, I’ve not enjoyed the we want Adkins out/ sacked in the morning chants, feels really uncomfortable with him. I do think he needs to go as the relationship with the fans is irreparable and to be quite blunt he’s not doing a good job. He’s a good fella and it’s no fun reading and hearing the abuse. It’s football, sadly it’s not working, so everyone should move on with our best wishes.let the next man have a go.
Agree with all of this.
But the table tells us the truth. And so do the disjointed team performances.
I've no doubt you tried your best, Nigel. But the season is fast becoming a train wreck and something has to quickly change. And I'm afraid, that's you.
Sorry, but feel something needs to be said about "everyone should move on". How can one "move on" from the nauseating practice of rewarding failure? Good Fella/ Bad Fella does not come into play here. Neither the comment that "It's football" do anything than highlight how easy it is for opportunists to rinse the sport, and how football supporters are held to ransom by "long term contracts" that ask very little of management? Meanwhile, EFL does sweet bugger all....... but all those EFL guys are "rinsing" a very good living out of the game too. No blood lust over Atkins, nice guy who I am sure, would lend you his lawnmower. Hasn't actually done him much good though..... other than he will probably walk away loaded. Gordon Strachan, Middlesbrough 2010-11. What a big guy. Failing, job "mutualised" and then tore up his own contract. No payout. One of the "Old School" "Pre Premiership" genuines. Very few and far between now. Game has become very "Pardewesque". Truly feel sorry many of you have missed the good days. One sick game...........
A bit unsatisfactory to have this dragging on another day. I assume the team will travel up to Sunderland on Friday, so tomorrow is the only day for training.
Whoever is in charge of training tomorrow has to be the person picking the team, formation, set piece takers etc on Saturday
get curbs in as dof and to replace roddy, sack adkins and bring mick marcathy in - let roddy be a consultant to advise on the plans for the academy upgrade but get him away from the coaching set up, recruitment or anything else he can damage - chuck the black box and review gallen's position - ASAP
McCarthy? Please no more tactical dinosaurs.
I'd have him in a heartbeat. I don't want new formations and expansive football. I want some no nonsense bollocks that will keep us up.
He’s in his own relegation battle with Cardiff. I want us to press and pass well like many League 1 clubs do. It’s a league that’s moving on from playing a rigid 4-4-2 and pumping it up to the big man.
get curbs in as dof and to replace roddy, sack adkins and bring mick marcathy in - let roddy be a consultant to advise on the plans for the academy upgrade but get him away from the coaching set up, recruitment or anything else he can damage - chuck the black box and review gallen's position - ASAP
McCarthy? Please no more tactical dinosaurs.
I'd have him in a heartbeat. I don't want new formations and expansive football. I want some no nonsense bollocks that will keep us up.
He’s in his own relegation battle with Cardiff. I want us to press and pass well like many League 1 clubs do. It’s a league that’s moving on from playing a rigid 4-4-2 and pumping it up to the big man.
True but you need to build to that, 4-4-2 is usually a good way to stop a rot and give you something to build from.
If it’s true that Adkins has been relieved of his job or agreed to go, I don’t see any benefit in delaying the announcement. There’s no real need to announce the new man at the same time. A new manager or caretaker are all easily stand alone announcements. If it’s not true then give him a vote of confidence. This fannying around just makes things worse. Hard to believe it isn’t true though given widespread rumours.
Adkins should, of course, have gone weeks ago. The obvious time to get rid was the international break. The win just before it fooled nobody. This ongoing delay and uncertainty helps no one especially with an away game so far away.
This.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
get curbs in as dof and to replace roddy, sack adkins and bring mick marcathy in - let roddy be a consultant to advise on the plans for the academy upgrade but get him away from the coaching set up, recruitment or anything else he can damage - chuck the black box and review gallen's position - ASAP
McCarthy? Please no more tactical dinosaurs.
I'd have him in a heartbeat. I don't want new formations and expansive football. I want some no nonsense bollocks that will keep us up.
He’s in his own relegation battle with Cardiff. I want us to press and pass well like many League 1 clubs do. It’s a league that’s moving on from playing a rigid 4-4-2 and pumping it up to the big man.
True but you need to build to that, 4-4-2 is usually a good way to stop a rot and give you something to build from.
Agree, we want something to build on as you say. Can’t build up to a better style if we bring in a manager like McCarthy.
If there were 10 games left we might want a short term appointment, but it’s early enough in the season to go for someone who should be here longer term.
I would imagine somebody like Wilder would want some autonomy in terms of decisions on players, playing style etc. That might mean a change from the current set up. So the alternative would be another chump. If we get Wilder, it would surely be a day to rejoice. I know, we can but dream!
If it’s true that Adkins has been relieved of his job or agreed to go, I don’t see any benefit in delaying the announcement. There’s no real need to announce the new man at the same time. A new manager or caretaker are all easily stand alone announcements. If it’s not true then give him a vote of confidence. This fannying around just makes things worse. Hard to believe it isn’t true though given widespread rumours.
Takes time to tie up all the legal stuff of departure taken Newcastle 3 days to announce Bruce departure mind you he did walk away with 8 mill !!!!
I would imagine somebody like Wilder would want some autonomy in terms of decisions on players, playing style etc. That might mean a change from the current set up. So the alternative would be another chump. If we get Wilder, it would surely be a day to rejoice. I know, we can but dream!
Wilder is not and will not ever be joining us in League One.
If it’s true that Adkins has been relieved of his job or agreed to go, I don’t see any benefit in delaying the announcement. There’s no real need to announce the new man at the same time. A new manager or caretaker are all easily stand alone announcements. If it’s not true then give him a vote of confidence. This fannying around just makes things worse. Hard to believe it isn’t true though given widespread rumours.
Takes time to tie up all the legal stuff of departure taken Newcastle 3 days to announce Bruce departure mind you he did walk away with 8 mill !!!!
It might well take a few days to tie up the departure package but that’s got nothing to do with the fact he’s gone (if he has).
Adkins should, of course, have gone weeks ago. The obvious time to get rid was the international break. The win just before it fooled nobody. This ongoing delay and uncertainty helps no one especially with an away game so far away.
This.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
As Boris said.......more dither & delay.
The international break would have been perfect for the new person to work with the players
Alternatively, if TS and Roddy felt Nigel deserved more time to work with the players, then the Lincoln game should have been the final straw, as after 2 weeks of work, we got worse
If Nigel had been removed by Adkins TS , even just from new manager bounce, I'm sure Jacko or Euell as caretakers would have got something from last night
I would imagine somebody like Wilder would want some autonomy in terms of decisions on players, playing style etc. That might mean a change from the current set up. So the alternative would be another chump. If we get Wilder, it would surely be a day to rejoice. I know, we can but dream!
Wilder is not and will not ever be joining us in League One.
He would not join anyone in league one … people need to be more realistic …
Adkins should, of course, have gone weeks ago. The obvious time to get rid was the international break. The win just before it fooled nobody. This ongoing delay and uncertainty helps no one especially with an away game so far away.
This.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
As Boris said.......more dither & delay.
The international break would have been perfect for the new person to work with the players
Alternatively, if TS and Roddy felt Nigel deserved more time to work with the players, then the Lincoln game should have been the final straw, as after 2 weeks of work, we got worse
If Nigel had been removed by Adkins, even just from new manager bounce, I'm sure Jacko or Euell as caretakers would have got something from last night
But we went in the break on the back of two wins ??
The vitriol and personal abuse is uncalled for, and saddens me. I stupidly thought Charlton fans were better than that. Yes it's time for Nigel to go, it didn't work out, that happens sometimes, but really some of the stuff being said is just plain wrong, shame on them.
Hopefully it’s not felt on here mirrors that. I like to think that generally there’s always an undercurrent of humour with it all. Some things today have really made me chuckle
I would imagine somebody like Wilder would want some autonomy in terms of decisions on players, playing style etc. That might mean a change from the current set up. So the alternative would be another chump. If we get Wilder, it would surely be a day to rejoice. I know, we can but dream!
Wilder is not and will not ever be joining us in League One.
He would not join anyone in league one … people need to be more realistic …
Adkins should, of course, have gone weeks ago. The obvious time to get rid was the international break. The win just before it fooled nobody. This ongoing delay and uncertainty helps no one especially with an away game so far away.
This.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
As Boris said.......more dither & delay.
The international break would have been perfect for the new person to work with the players
Alternatively, if TS and Roddy felt Nigel deserved more time to work with the players, then the Lincoln game should have been the final straw, as after 2 weeks of work, we got worse
If Nigel had been removed by Adkins, even just from new manager bounce, I'm sure Jacko or Euell as caretakers would have got something from last night
It smacks of two people (TS &Roddy) completely out of their depth. They now have no confidence in any decisions they are having to make due to having their fingers burned. That's why they drag their heels for so long.
An experienced football CEO may help with this. Roddy is completely unqualified
Scott Minto ‘right, we’ve got AFKA coming to join us. AFKA, thanks for joining us, talk us through the Adkins out match thread. It was a bright start but what happened after that?’
AFKA ‘yes, as you say Scott, a decent start and we had hope with 3 or 4 posters claiming they’d heard the news he was gone, and we bouyant’
Scott Minto ‘yes, there were a flurry of posts from about 4.30pm and about 800 online, and there was a bold call, with some thinking it might be 5pm for an announcement’
AFKA ‘That’s what we read Scott and I myself even posted something saying I’m glad the end was in sight. ButtleJr has been right in the past with inside information and then 2 or 3 other posters chimed in and we thought, yep, why not 5pm’
Scott Minto ‘well, 5 pm came and went, some were still confident that by 6 it would be done and dusted, but a few nerves started to enter the thread, most notably dazzler21, what happened with Dazzler?’
AFKA ‘to be honest Scott, I’m not sure. I had to drop off and take a look at Henry Irving’s promotes and see if there were any I could remove, the next thing I know, I open up the thread again, and Dazzler has invented a couple of kids and Ricky Otto is saying he’s losing the plot in Tesco’
Scott Minto ‘that seemed to start a trail of apprehension among the thread and before we know it, 6pm has come and gone and ButtleJR is having to backtrack.’
AFKA ‘ButtleJR is a confident lad, but once the memes came out and the minutes ticked by, it didn’t look good. We were waiting on Twitter updates and then we saw it’
Scott Minto ‘Yes, the tweet from Louis Mendez. The final nail in the coffin. Nothing would happen tonight and the thread would have to stand down.’
AFKA ‘we trust Louis and it was disappointing, but we’ve sat through similar types of disappointment before. We had transfer deadline day in 2020 with Matt Southall and all the expected signings, and we got David Davis and one of the Matt Smith’s. We’ll bounce back, there’s a spirit on this forum and sense of togetherness and we’ll wait and see when we log back on tomorrow’
Scott Minto ‘You sound a bit like Nigel Adkins there AFKA’
AFKA ‘no I don’t’
Scott Minto ‘Do you think he’ll still be in charge on Saturday for the trip to Sunderland?’
AFKA ‘I think he’ll be gone Scott and I believe in this forum. We’ll log off, we’ll regroup and I look forward to tomorrow. We’re a strong unit’
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But it happened quickly.
Whoever is in charge of training tomorrow has to be the person picking the team, formation, set piece takers etc on Saturday
TS would have to blow things out of the water and have a sound plan for ambition for him to even listen.
The last 2 defeats could & probably would gave been avoided if Adkins had gone during the International. It would have given the new manager time to instill done basics into the players.
As Boris said.......more dither & delay.
If there were 10 games left we might want a short term appointment, but it’s early enough in the season to go for someone who should be here longer term.
Alternatively, if TS and Roddy felt Nigel deserved more time to work with the players, then the Lincoln game should have been the final straw, as after 2 weeks of work, we got worse
If Nigel had been removed by Adkins TS , even just from new manager bounce, I'm sure Jacko or Euell as caretakers would have got something from last night
They now have no confidence in any decisions they are having to make due to having their fingers burned.
That's why they drag their heels for so long.
An experienced football CEO may help with this. Roddy is completely unqualified
AFKA ‘yes, as you say Scott, a decent start and we had hope with 3 or 4 posters claiming they’d heard the news he was gone, and we bouyant’
Scott Minto ‘yes, there were a flurry of posts from about 4.30pm and about 800 online, and there was a bold call, with some thinking it might be 5pm for an announcement’
AFKA ‘That’s what we read Scott and I myself even posted something saying I’m glad the end was in sight. ButtleJr has been right in the past with inside information and then 2 or 3 other posters chimed in and we thought, yep, why not 5pm’
Scott Minto ‘well, 5 pm came and went, some were still confident that by 6 it would be done and dusted, but a few nerves started to enter the thread, most notably dazzler21, what happened with Dazzler?’
AFKA ‘to be honest Scott, I’m not sure. I had to drop off and take a look at Henry Irving’s promotes and see if there were any I could remove, the next thing I know, I open up the thread again, and Dazzler has invented a couple of kids and Ricky Otto is saying he’s losing the plot in Tesco’
Scott Minto ‘that seemed to start a trail of apprehension among the thread and before we know it, 6pm has come and gone and ButtleJR is having to backtrack.’
AFKA ‘ButtleJR is a confident lad, but once the memes came out and the minutes ticked by, it didn’t look good. We were waiting on Twitter updates and then we saw it’
Scott Minto ‘Yes, the tweet from Louis Mendez. The final nail in the coffin. Nothing would happen tonight and the thread would have to stand down.’
AFKA ‘we trust Louis and it was disappointing, but we’ve sat through similar types of disappointment before. We had transfer deadline day in 2020 with Matt Southall and all the expected signings, and we got David Davis and one of the Matt Smith’s. We’ll bounce back, there’s a spirit on this forum and sense of togetherness and we’ll wait and see when we log back on tomorrow’
Scott Minto ‘You sound a bit like Nigel Adkins there AFKA’
AFKA ‘no I don’t’
Scott Minto ‘Do you think he’ll still be in charge on Saturday for the trip to Sunderland?’
AFKA ‘I think he’ll be gone Scott and I believe in this forum. We’ll log off, we’ll regroup and I look forward to tomorrow. We’re a strong unit’
Scott Minto ‘AFKA, thank you’