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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • From what Driesen has been saying in tweets and replies, is that Gallen had never been the ‘scout’ and more the negotiator - as his role is currently 
  • sammy391 said:
    From what Driesen has been saying in tweets and replies, is that Gallen had never been the ‘scout’ and more the negotiator - as his role is currently 
    I said before, and got shouted down, Gallen's best deals are the ones he gets through contacts, not through scouting.  Not giving any credit to Tommy boy BTW. 
  • Which is the reason why the lad is now heavily involved with some of the biggest clubs in Europe... on his computer of course!
  • Rothko said:
    Driessen really is fluffing his own myth at the moment. 
    He's becoming a legend in his own under cleggies!! Coz that's about all he's good at playing with I guess!!
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    The problem is that even a stable Championship side loses as much or more money than a league 1 side.  

    Our owner seriously under estimated the cost of running a football club in this country.  Besides which wages are ridiculous in football . 

    I wouldn’t blame TS if it decided it was too much. Standing still appears to cost 10 million a year and the cost of a ticket is way short of covering the true cost to break even.

    That is why we have signed players others didn't rate and our midfield isn't anywhere near good enough to accommodate 433. Without it our wingers have no threat plus we are short on full backs to support it.  We lack a threat so opposition teams just suss us out in 10 minutes. 
    That’s not necessarily true. At least in the Championship you have about £7-8m more in income to play with and you are more likely to develop players that command big fees. Millwall are losing less in the Championship than Charlton are in L1, despite having a smaller season ticket base, and they are still there.
    Mostly it is true though. I can't imagine what miracle it is that allows a club to pay Championship wages on a smaller fan base and loose less money  than Charlton .
    Because the TV revenue is bigger for a start
    It maybe due to more games but that is not big enough  to make the difference. RD preferred L1 because it cost him less in loses I recall Bowyer saying .
    That's absolutely a load of tosh.  The last season we were in league 1 it cost Roland 10 million quid, the season we were in the championship, despite the nice breads, cars and bitches, we made a profit!!! 
     That is not what Bowyer said .
    Are you saying the accounts are fraudulent?  Because that's what they say. 
  • edited August 2021
    Couldn't care less what Driessen thinks . The amount of utter rubbish he signed and now he's running around claiming to still know what's going on. Surprised there's still people he hasn't blocked. 
  • I've never engaged with Driesen on Twitter. Maybe I can worm my way in and we can imagine all the huge overskilled centre-backs we could sign 
  • Leuth said:
    I've never engaged with Driesen on Twitter. Maybe I can worm my way in and we can imagine all the huge overskilled centre-backs we could sign 
    He might try and deny that he was involved in signing Naby though...
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  • I assume Tommy D has since moved on to a top club due to his sensational scouting ability? 
  • Leuth said:
    I've never engaged with Driesen on Twitter. Maybe I can worm my way in and we can imagine all the huge overskilled centre-backs we could sign 
    He might try and deny that he was involved in signing Naby though...
    Nah he'll reply with something about Bauer scoring for Preston 
  • Leuth said:
    I've never engaged with Driesen on Twitter. Maybe I can worm my way in and we can imagine all the huge overskilled centre-backs we could sign 
    It's the lack of shame that's the problem, and the constant dishonesty about his involvement in the sales of Kermorgant, Stephens, and forcing Hamer out
  • Nought wrong with Naby in the end.
  • Chunes said:
    Reminder that Driesen frequently denies being in charge of transfers during RD's earlier reign and yet in Jimmy Stone's excellent documentary podcast, Guy Luzon, Bob Peeters and Chris Powell all say he was the de facto boss. 

    The guy talks complete shit. 
    If you believe any/every thing he says, it ever so oddly turns out that every single good signing was entirely thanks to him, but somehow at the same time someone else was responsible for all the bad ones. I suspect that he might somehow actually believe this is true.

    He's full of crap.
  • Croydon said:
    The problem is that even a stable Championship side loses as much or more money than a league 1 side.  

    Our owner seriously under estimated the cost of running a football club in this country.  Besides which wages are ridiculous in football . 

    I wouldn’t blame TS if it decided it was too much. Standing still appears to cost 10 million a year and the cost of a ticket is way short of covering the true cost to break even.

    That is why we have signed players others didn't rate and our midfield isn't anywhere near good enough to accommodate 433. Without it our wingers have no threat plus we are short on full backs to support it.  We lack a threat so opposition teams just suss us out in 10 minutes. 
    In which case he then needs to do what Peterborough and Brentford do, and sign talented youngsters who can help the team for a couple of years before being sold on. 

    But that again needs investment. You are highly unlikely to find these players if you are signing players who were ultimately unwanted by Oxford, Sunderland and Tranmere.
     We have been missing out on talented young players in lower teams by not offering enough,  and we are a team that has sold its good young players cheaply. 
    How come Gallen never spots them and Brentford and Peterborough do, every time.
    Is this a fact?
    No, it’s not. Same argument that a few posters continue to repeat. We are not offering as much as Championship sides and Ipswich/Wigan, that doesn’t mean we’re not offering a decent amount to players. It’s ridiculous to expect Sandgaard to have agreed £9-10k pw on several players to make up our first 11. There’s no point in being annoyed that we aren’t offering as much as these other sides. 
    Is it a fact that Wigan/Ipswich are offering 10k a week? 
    Wyke is rumoured to be on 10k a week at Wigan. He turned down a new deal at Sunderland (who must have offered a decent enough deal) to go there. You surely wouldn't leave Sunderland for Wigan unless it was for money.

    Ipswich have signed some good players for this level. Edwards was believed to have turned down championship clubs to go there. Fraser and Pigott must be on pretty good money. 
  • Croydon said:
    The problem is that even a stable Championship side loses as much or more money than a league 1 side.  

    Our owner seriously under estimated the cost of running a football club in this country.  Besides which wages are ridiculous in football . 

    I wouldn’t blame TS if it decided it was too much. Standing still appears to cost 10 million a year and the cost of a ticket is way short of covering the true cost to break even.

    That is why we have signed players others didn't rate and our midfield isn't anywhere near good enough to accommodate 433. Without it our wingers have no threat plus we are short on full backs to support it.  We lack a threat so opposition teams just suss us out in 10 minutes. 
    In which case he then needs to do what Peterborough and Brentford do, and sign talented youngsters who can help the team for a couple of years before being sold on. 

    But that again needs investment. You are highly unlikely to find these players if you are signing players who were ultimately unwanted by Oxford, Sunderland and Tranmere.
     We have been missing out on talented young players in lower teams by not offering enough,  and we are a team that has sold its good young players cheaply. 
    How come Gallen never spots them and Brentford and Peterborough do, every time.
    Is this a fact?
    No, it’s not. Same argument that a few posters continue to repeat. We are not offering as much as Championship sides and Ipswich/Wigan, that doesn’t mean we’re not offering a decent amount to players. It’s ridiculous to expect Sandgaard to have agreed £9-10k pw on several players to make up our first 11. There’s no point in being annoyed that we aren’t offering as much as these other sides. 
    Is it a fact that Wigan/Ipswich are offering 10k a week? 
    Wyke is rumoured to be on 10k a week at Wigan. He turned down a new deal at Sunderland (who must have offered a decent enough deal) to go there. You surely wouldn't leave Sunderland for Wigan unless it was for money.

    Ipswich have signed some good players for this level. Edwards was believed to have turned down championship clubs to go there. Fraser and Pigott must be on pretty good money. 
    Yep and they stand 1 point above us!
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  • Croydon said:
    The problem is that even a stable Championship side loses as much or more money than a league 1 side.  

    Our owner seriously under estimated the cost of running a football club in this country.  Besides which wages are ridiculous in football . 

    I wouldn’t blame TS if it decided it was too much. Standing still appears to cost 10 million a year and the cost of a ticket is way short of covering the true cost to break even.

    That is why we have signed players others didn't rate and our midfield isn't anywhere near good enough to accommodate 433. Without it our wingers have no threat plus we are short on full backs to support it.  We lack a threat so opposition teams just suss us out in 10 minutes. 
    In which case he then needs to do what Peterborough and Brentford do, and sign talented youngsters who can help the team for a couple of years before being sold on. 

    But that again needs investment. You are highly unlikely to find these players if you are signing players who were ultimately unwanted by Oxford, Sunderland and Tranmere.
     We have been missing out on talented young players in lower teams by not offering enough,  and we are a team that has sold its good young players cheaply. 
    How come Gallen never spots them and Brentford and Peterborough do, every time.
    Is this a fact?
    No, it’s not. Same argument that a few posters continue to repeat. We are not offering as much as Championship sides and Ipswich/Wigan, that doesn’t mean we’re not offering a decent amount to players. It’s ridiculous to expect Sandgaard to have agreed £9-10k pw on several players to make up our first 11. There’s no point in being annoyed that we aren’t offering as much as these other sides. 
    Is it a fact that Wigan/Ipswich are offering 10k a week? 
    Wyke is rumoured to be on 10k a week at Wigan. He turned down a new deal at Sunderland (who must have offered a decent enough deal) to go there. You surely wouldn't leave Sunderland for Wigan unless it was for money.

    Ipswich have signed some good players for this level. Edwards was believed to have turned down championship clubs to go there. Fraser and Pigott must be on pretty good money. 
    Yep and they stand 1 point above us!
    Yeah Cook probably needs a few games to figure out his best team as they've signed so many players. Once they sort the defence out and hit their stride though they'll be more than capable of going on a run as goalscoring isn't going to be a problem for them
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    JohnnyH2 said:
    The problem is that even a stable Championship side loses as much or more money than a league 1 side.  

    Our owner seriously under estimated the cost of running a football club in this country.  Besides which wages are ridiculous in football . 

    I wouldn’t blame TS if it decided it was too much. Standing still appears to cost 10 million a year and the cost of a ticket is way short of covering the true cost to break even.

    That is why we have signed players others didn't rate and our midfield isn't anywhere near good enough to accommodate 433. Without it our wingers have no threat plus we are short on full backs to support it.  We lack a threat so opposition teams just suss us out in 10 minutes. 
    That’s not necessarily true. At least in the Championship you have about £7-8m more in income to play with and you are more likely to develop players that command big fees. Millwall are losing less in the Championship than Charlton are in L1, despite having a smaller season ticket base, and they are still there.
    Mostly it is true though. I can't imagine what miracle it is that allows a club to pay Championship wages on a smaller fan base and loose less money  than Charlton .
    Because the TV revenue is bigger for a start
    It maybe due to more games but that is not big enough  to make the difference. RD preferred L1 because it cost him less in loses I recall Bowyer saying .
    That's absolutely a load of tosh.  The last season we were in league 1 it cost Roland 10 million quid, the season we were in the championship, despite the nice breads, cars and bitches, we made a profit!!! 
     That is not what Bowyer said .
    Are you saying the accounts are fraudulent?  Because that's what they say. 
    Did I say that ? No I didn't. 
    You said Bowyer said it was true.  The accounts say it isn't. Either Bowyer is wrong or the accounts are wrong. 
  • edited August 2021
    The good news is there is still time for Sandgaard & Adkins to come out of the transfer window with credibility. Lots of good players are still available.

    4 decent loan signings and 1/2 perms of a Dale, Bishop, Lowery or Sims standard would give us a side capable of competing with the best teams in the league.

    We know TS & NA can talk the talk. Hopefully they will back up their words over the next 9 days and show us that they can also walk the walk.

    #walkingisbrilliant
    Well they haven’t  in the past 3 months so I can't  see them going it in 10 or 11 days.
    In fairness to the club the likes of Sandgaard & Gallen stated weeks ago that they expect most of our business to happen right near the deadline.

    We can only hope they deliver.
    Agreed but where’s the wind up value in that, let’s keep counting down the weeks, days, hours and minutes 😏.
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  • I don't think we're gonna sign anyone until deadline day
  • The good news is there is still time for Sandgaard & Adkins to come out of the transfer window with credibility. Lots of good players are still available.

    4 decent loan signings and 1/2 perms of a Dale, Bishop, Lowery or Sims standard would give us a side capable of competing with the best teams in the league.

    We know TS & NA can talk the talk. Hopefully they will back up their words over the next 9 days and show us that they can also walk the walk.

    #walkingisbrilliant
    True. For all we know, the budget may magically increase this week now TS has seen how badly we’ve started. That is my hope. 

    BUT, if this was always the plan, to wait until the end, then it’s dangerous. As we saw after game 46 last year, the finest of margins can promote/relegate you and throwing away 4 matches so that you can wait for a good deal is dangerous. 
  • Clearly we're looking at loans, which I've understood for a while to be likely to happen late. Were we not also told though that there would be scores of released players - some from Championship clubs - who would have to rethink their terms and be jumping at the chance to sign for, ahem, third division promotion contenders? I genuinely believed we might be picking up players of slightly more proven quality than CBT as a direct result of COVID, but have yet to see the benefits! Is that still the plan?
  • I though someone posted here a few weeks ago that we wanted to move away from loans?
  • 9 points behind the leaders....a gap too far already for auto spots? As I said previously a poor strategy to wait until the end of the window. Almost like they have written this season off....at least for auto spots
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