There are 4 possible explanations for the current state of affairs.
1) We have been picky and only signed players we really want, not anything that moves, and held our nerve. This may or may not stay the same as the deadline looms closer.
2) We can't/won't pay what we need to to get the players we need in and can't/won't budge.
3) It's deliberate and the "plan" is to add 2 or 3 quality players each window and build over a number of seasons.
4) No one can be arsed and they just haven't bothered or they were too busy in the recording studio, on holiday, or enjoying the hospitality at QPR.
I think in all honesty we can rule out 4. I suspect its 1 with maybe a tint of 2. If its 3 someone is going to get a short sharp shock when the bills start piling up.
As you say, I think it's a mixture of 1 & 2
How does this strategy jive with TS saying the PL in 5 years? 47 months left. We are guessing why we have not signed people and yet we know what he claimed he planned in terms of promotion. How does one square our actions with the plan of promotion to the PL by 2025-26?
Or maybe the plan changed, or had to be rethought. TS probably did at one point want to get to the PL in five years but I'd be very surprised if he still thinks that's a feasible plan.
This is the kind of thing the recruitment team and TS are up against.
Expectations have been set so high, no matter what good business we do, it will be seen as “being done on the cheap” by a vocal section of the fan base.
Not digging out this specific poster but it does show how some fans are living in a completely different reality.
Christ it really is that simple for some people. I assume he has taken in to account all of the injuries we will pick up…. Nice of him to draw up a list of players that have been available to us all since the end of last season - yet closed not to peruse (I assume). We might as well relieve Gallen of his duties.
This is the kind of thing the recruitment team and TS are up against.
Expectations have been set so high, no matter what good business we do, it will be seen as “being done on the cheap” by a vocal section of the fan base.
Not digging out this specific poster but it does show how some fans are living in a completely different reality.
If only it was that easy and that cheap.
The loan would be free? What about wages and signing on fees? Agent fees?
Are those players available at those prices?
If they are, are they worth those prices?
Do they all fit in with the way we want to play and in the dressing room?
Guys you don't understand - he's played Football Manager religiously for the last 5 years and always got Charlton promoted to the Premiership within 3 seasons on Intermediate setting. We need this guy to have a hotline to Gallen, Roddy and TS right now.
This is the kind of thing the recruitment team and TS are up against.
Expectations have been set so high, no matter what good business we do, it will be seen as “being done on the cheap” by a vocal section of the fan base.
Not digging out this specific poster but it does show how some fans are living in a completely different reality.
If only it was that easy and that cheap.
The loan would be free? What about wages and signing on fees? Agent fees?
Are those players available at those prices?
If they are, are they worth those prices?
Do they all fit in with the way we want to play and in the dressing room?
etc
Don’t worry about it, I’m sure the opposition will just roll over and let us win 3-0 each week. It’s that easy. Don’t worry, none of those players want signing on fees or wages - I’ve called all of them and they want to play for free.
He posts on here so you may wish to be careful what you say.
Like I said, I’m not digging out the OP. I don’t follow said poster on Twitter so I have no idea who he is.
He’s only articulating what a lot of other fans have been thinking. My contention is that it’s treating football as fantasy football and the owners money as monopoly cash to play with.
It doesn’t account for the actual value of transfers/wages or how difficult it is to get a deal over the line. It assumes loans are free, players won’t get injured and a guaranteed return on investment.
There are 4 possible explanations for the current state of affairs.
1) We have been picky and only signed players we really want, not anything that moves, and held our nerve. This may or may not stay the same as the deadline looms closer.
2) We can't/won't pay what we need to to get the players we need in and can't/won't budge.
3) It's deliberate and the "plan" is to add 2 or 3 quality players each window and build over a number of seasons.
4) No one can be arsed and they just haven't bothered or they were too busy in the recording studio, on holiday, or enjoying the hospitality at QPR.
I think in all honesty we can rule out 4. I suspect its 1 with maybe a tint of 2. If its 3 someone is going to get a short sharp shock when the bills start piling up.
There’s a fifth: 5) Things aren’t *quite* as bad as some think they are, after just two games this season; Possibly some decent players in the pipeline, loan or otherwise. Gilbey to return. Kirk about to join the party. Clare and Dobson still bedding in. Morgan may be about to find that killer pass, or maybe even launch one into the top corner, which would be a boost to his fragile self confidence. Hope so anyway.
5 is 1 isn't it? Unless you believe we won't bring anyone else in at all, then it becomes 3 or 4?
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Exactly, very easy to spend Karen from Ohio 401k then your own money
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Still cannot get my head around how a pension fund is spending so much on a league one side.
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Exactly, very easy to spend Karen from Ohio 401k then your own money
I do find this whole pension investment thing at Ipswich very interesting. I like alot of people have a SIPP and through that own some commercial property. When one of them need some maintenance the pension administrator insists I get 3 quotes for anything I spend from my SIPP. This is slightly annoying as I own a building maintenance company lol, but that is the job of a pension administrator and why I pay them their fees. How on earth has the administrator of that American fund approved investment into a football club in the uk ?
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Still cannot get my head around how a pension fund is spending so much on a league one side.
Think they'll sell when they think they can see a profit
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Ipswich have signed nearly 2 teams thus far so it can be done.
And yet they have the same number of points as we do at this stage
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Ipswich have signed nearly 2 teams thus far so it can be done.
And yet they have the same number of points as we do at this stage
It’s whether their approach or ours will deliver the most points by the end of the season that counts. Not after two games.
Let’s see who’s approach to the transfer market works best - or if both teams stay stuck in league one for another year.
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Ipswich have signed nearly 2 teams thus far so it can be done.
Signing a new team is very easy when you just get to make up how much you think a player would cost. Personally I think we should get Messi £0.5m, Pogba £1.1m and van Dijk £0.4m. I haven't actually enquired about the players myself, but I've decided that's how much they'll cost so that's what it is. Get your finger out Sandgaard, these are a bargain
Ipswich have signed nearly 2 teams thus far so it can be done.
And yet they have the same number of points as we do at this stage
It’s whether their approach or ours will deliver the most points by the end of the season that counts. Not after two games.
Let’s see who’s approach to the transfer market works best - or if both teams stay stuck in league one for another year.
So we can stop bringing up Ipswich until then yes?
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Still cannot get my head around how a pension fund is spending so much on a league one side.
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
It all makes sense now, Ipswich and Wigan have spent our budget as well!!
Can everyone thats saying we are obviously refusing to pay wages, at least acknowledge that TS is spending his own money, while the Ipswich owner is spending the money of others ?
Still cannot get my head around how a pension fund is spending so much on a league one side.
Think they'll sell when they think they can see a profit
How does that work though, they have already spent about 60 million, including purchase price and this seasons loses.
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The loan would be free? What about wages and signing on fees? Agent fees?
Are those players available at those prices?
If they are, are they worth those prices?
Do they all fit in with the way we want to play and in the dressing room?
etc
Why would we get Lee Bowyer on loan. Don't make sense and we surely need a left back too?
I can't get over it.
Messi was on a free transfer.
...just need someone else's money
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