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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Chunes said:Sasa Ilic was given a trial wasn't he? He just rolled up to the training ground with his boots one day.
What does the club have to lose from giving people trials?
Agreed, I'm just annoyed the club turned me away without letting me show what I can do.
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No-one knows for sure but on balance it seems fairly likely that it's more the former than the latter. The upper management recruitment (Roddy etc) was all done with no fanfare. Dobson and McGillivray only became strongly linked just before they signed up.J BLOCK said:
Have we really been keeping quite on the transfer stuff or is there just a lack of things happening to report...Richard J said:How do we know that there are no trialists?
We seem to be keeping quiet about transfers so it wouldn't surprise me if a few free agents are training with us but they haven't played in the friendlies.
I'm inclined to think it's a deliberately low key approach rather than a lack of activity at all.2 -
My dad wrote to the club when he was 14 asking for a trial but didn’t even get a rejection letter. 60 years later…..he still mentions it!ElfsborgAddick said:Chunes said:Sasa Ilic was given a trial wasn't he? He just rolled up to the training ground with his boots one day.
What does the club have to lose from giving people trials?
Agreed, I'm just annoyed the club turned me away without letting me show what I can do.2 -
What’s your problem? If you can’t see that Alfie would be our biggest threat if still in this squad then you really need to go follow another sport.Addick_8 said:
No he isn’t.Maccn05 said:
But not when we ended the season. Even back to your selective point view we had Alfie who’s better than any member of the current squad.Addick_8 said:
We most certainly aren’t behind where we was last season. Our starting line up for Crewe away is currently worse than our strongest first 11 as of today.Maccn05 said:
I said we’re behind where we were last season, not that they were world beaters… butLaddick01 said:Aneke maybe.
Millar and Maatsen. Give me a break.
Both have the potential to be good but were far too inconsistent.Players always get better when they’re gone.
who in our squad right now doc we have that’s better than them? We don’t! So we’re behind where we finished in May 👍🏼
Theres a reason he had a bunch of Championship clubs after him
… honestly some people!
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Todds_right_hook said:
My dad wrote to the club when he was 14 asking for a trial but didn’t even get a rejection letter. 60 years later…..he still mentions it!ElfsborgAddick said:Chunes said:Sasa Ilic was given a trial wasn't he? He just rolled up to the training ground with his boots one day.
What does the club have to lose from giving people trials?
Agreed, I'm just annoyed the club turned me away without letting me show what I can do.
Bad manners on the club's part. They probably could not afford the stamp.
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thenewbie said:
No-one knows for sure but on balance it seems fairly likely that it's more the former than the latter. The upper management recruitment (Roddy etc) was all done with no fanfare. Dobson and McGillivray only became strongly linked just before they signed up.J BLOCK said:
Have we really been keeping quite on the transfer stuff or is there just a lack of things happening to report...Richard J said:How do we know that there are no trialists?
We seem to be keeping quiet about transfers so it wouldn't surprise me if a few free agents are training with us but they haven't played in the friendlies.
I'm inclined to think it's a deliberately low key approach rather than a lack of activity at all.
As a comparison I'd like to know the amount of players brought in by other clubs.
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I thought a lot of the players that played last season weren’t good enough and was disappointed when we kept most of them, bar Stockley.Cafc43v3r said:
We know you thought all the players that played for us last season were shit. So shit that we missed out on the play offs on goals difference.cabbles said:If he won’t pay agents’ fees unless absolutely necessary, then I respect that. Might mean we miss out on a fair few of our targets, but for me, TS is still massively in the credit bank for me for stepping in and saving us from the Abyss. He’s spent money on players since he’s been here as well, so I trust his process.If that means we don’t compete or go up then of course I’ll be disappointed, but then it will perhaps be a lesson learned on his behalf and that will just be the way it is. We might just have to accept it, and accept that it will be lesser quality players, youngsters and loans. That won’t blow the league away, and I hope people saw it as TS’s enthusiasm rather than a cast iron commitment
I’m sure there will be signings. I question whether or not the squad is likely to be good enough unless we get another 6 or so quality players in, so I just have to wait and see. I’m not happy at the prospect of a lot of the players that were here last season still hanging around, but ultimately, just have to accept it for what it is
We know you would have released them all and "jogged on" those that had contracts.
We know you don't want to sign anyone. Because "reasons" for anyone.
Your not happy with it, your not happy with any thing to do with football.
Just fucking chill and trust that it will happen or will that make you cry, like you claimed it did that our 4th choice center back, senior pro and club captain, signed a new contract?
The fact we missed out on the play offs on goal difference was in my opinion down to the fact the league was diabolical, but I can see how some supporters can interpret it differently and say we were close/we just needed a few more bodies and had Adkins come in earlier it may have been different etc etc. that’s fair enough and I guess we’ll never know, so it will just remain a matter of opinion.I’m struggling to make sense of your 3rd point. I was highlighting that I trust TS’ approach and that if he doesn’t want to pay agents’ fees, and we end up with loans, youth players and free transfers, then I will accept that. It will be a lesson learned in the sense that he will have another year of having ran the club, and it will give him a better idea of what works and what doesn’t. He may find out that not paying agents fees, or the sort of money he thought he would have to spend, isn’t the best way to get out the division, and as I said, I’ll accept it for what it is
points 4&5 I’ll take together. I’m very happy with a lot of aspects to do with football. Loved watching England in the Euros and what they built upon after 2018. Charlton wise I’m excited about Stockley. Said that when he signed I thought he was a great signing. I said I’ve always rated Washington, I think his work rate is quality and I think he could do a job. I was pleased with the signing of Dobson, I’m looking forward to him establishing himself as that mobile tough tackling midfielder we need in the middle. I’ve always liked Morgan, hoping this could be the team and set up he breaks through and get a run of games. I think Famewo is a great signing and I’m pleased he’s back for another year.
To be fair I can see how terms like I could cry can come across as you have interpreted. It’s simply that I have seen 4 promotions in my lifetime, and in my opinion, just my opinion, despite us finishing 7th last season, I feel that a lot of the players we had and the ones we kept on, are miles off, even if we add a few more bodies. I take your point that it may come across as negative, but the football did grind me down a lot last season as it did many others. I was hoping for a clear out and a fresh start. Fingers crossed we will have a few signings in the coming weeks and I look forward to seeing who they may be8 -
Sigh.
just read yesterday’s posts on this thread.
I think this is the third in as many weeks I’ve requested this. Clearly no one reads it, or if they do then they just simply don’t give a shit.
STOP POSTING PERSONALLY ABOUT OTHER POSTERS.
60% of the posts yesterday were completely unnecessary. 90%+ were nothing to do with rumours.
The current target is Golfie. A fortnight ago it was someone else. I don't agree with hardly anything he posts but I’ve the ability to either read it and ignore, or skip it. If you disagree, respond saying why you disagree. But it doesn’t need to generate another 100+ posts and it’s doesnt need to get personal. It’s ugly to read and makes you look far far worse than the target of your personal snipe or nastiness.
Everyone on here are adults and most of you have been on here 10 years plus. If you are not able to participate in a discussion forum after all that time without getting into petty squabbles, spilling over into nasty personal attacks, you need a serious look at yourself. It’s basic human communicative behaviour.
I know there are not many player rumours. I know there’s are concerns the squad is far too thin and I know some are more impatient about it than others. Add your view, debate the reasons, but keep it civil. It’s really not a huge ask. If you don’t think you can, count to ten or put your phone down. You’re using this forum for the wrong reasons otherwise.
We need a massive improvement in user behaviour and everyone has to play a part in it. Posting behaviour on here was always higher than Twitter, Facebook etc but it’s sinking to those levels. Just banning people is never the desired answer. If people become a problem over a long term then leave to the moderators or speak privately to a moderator.
Please, really asking everyone to make an effort. Less provocation, less repetitive of posts, less nastiness and commenting on other posters.
No need to reply on this, please get the thread back on topic.
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A good point. The problem is, if you compared Golfie's opinions to let's say the more rose tinted ones over the last few years, he would have a higher success rate by some margin. Of course, that doesn't mean he is right here and we all hope he isn't. But we shouldn't attack somebody who has been more right than us because we don't like what he says. Personally, I am still hopeful but am trying to keep on the middle ground until I see firm evidence of one direction over the other.ElfsborgAddick said:
A bit harsh possibly mate, tbf I think your all positive attitude clashes with his.SoundAsa£ said:
The problem with that is that he posts so much negative stuff that it sets the tone.....he is to be found all over the site with his continual moaning attitude ......supporting your club is supposed to be an enjoyable experience (at least a fair percentage of the time), but of late he has been working overtime making this site a negative place.Cafc43v3r said:Let's be fair it isn't only @golfaddick that is being negative. Another poster said he was convinced we wouldn't sign anyone else this morning.
As much fun as it is to poke the grumpy bear with a stick he isn't alone. So it's unfair to just say its only him.
Time for him to call it a day or better still go on “ the forum whose name shall not be named” where his style and boring attitude will undoubtedly be welcomed with open arms” IMHO.
Perhaps @golfaddick and his views are realism?1 -
Really don't think so mate. The pull of the manager holds fairly little sway compared to salary and being part of a team going in the right direction. This year there are a few teams in our league throwing cash around, and cos of the Euros things are delayed.Showmetheway2gohome said:Think bowyer being manager attracted players to come to us more than Adkins is another reason we’re not getting players through the door.
I also don't think Bowyer is that big a pull.10 -
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If true then the man has gone up in my estimations againFortune 82nd Minute said:I haven't read the last 30 pages or so, so apologies in advance if anyone has already said this.
Mate of mine does some scouting for professional teams. I saw him yesterday and he said he had heard that TS won't pay agents' fees, so the agents were pushing their players towards clubs who did.
Absolutely no idea if this is true.1 -
Great idea.ElfsborgAddick said:I think @golfaddick and @SoundAsa£ should have a nice meal together and be friends again.It's too hot for all this bickering.
And as you suggested it you can pay the bill.2 -
Just a point that often gets missed when CL assess squads and who’s good enough and who ain’t etc.Young players get better, you may look at this team and say “that’s not gonna get us up” but Morgan (21), Famewo (22), Jaiyesimi (23), Dobson (23) and all the others that didn’t quite make the squad last season (Vennings, Henry, Barker), they will all be better than last season, they’re a year more mature than last season.We’re built of concrete now, not sand with a few decent bricks on top like previous summer windows. I’m usually team negative but I genuinely feel positive for this season, and we all know more additions will come soon.11
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I also made a point a while back about posters treading on my toes regarding percentages but oh no that doesn’t apply to you ffsAFKABartram said:
I think this is the third in as many weeks I’ve requested this. Clearly no one reads it, or if they do then they just simply don’t give a shit.
STOP POSTING PERENTAGES ABOUT OTHER POSTERS.
60% of the posts yesterday were completely unnecessary. 90%+ were nothing to do with rumours.
once again I request everyone to back off I have ©️on CL %ages
as of right now I’m 100% pissed off21 -
Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.33 -
Only 4-5 would mean something like LB, CB, CM, W, STCovered_End_Lad said:Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.
I’d like to think it’ll be a few more to give us proper depth across the midfield.2 -
Anybody heard this rumour the new partner that Thomas was in discussions with has pulled out if true it is a massive loss.0
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I agree. Personally think we need:Scoham said:
Only 4-5 would mean something like LB, CB, CM, W, STCovered_End_Lad said:Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.
I’d like to think it’ll be a few more to give us proper depth across the midfield.
- Left back as good as or better than Purrington
- Centre back who can step in for Inniss as he won’t be able to play every game this season
- Two central midfielders better than Gilbey and Morgan
- Two wingers so we aren’t relying on DJ the whole time
- Striker to replace Aneke16 -
Addicks59 said:Anybody heard this rumour the new partner that Thomas was in discussions with has pulled out if true it is a massive loss.
Thought the new partnership was the thing over in Dubai?1 -
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This, and a gk if AMB is loaned out.Sage said:
I agree. Personally think we need:Scoham said:
Only 4-5 would mean something like LB, CB, CM, W, STCovered_End_Lad said:Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.
I’d like to think it’ll be a few more to give us proper depth across the midfield.
- Left back as good as or better than Purrington
- Centre back who can step in for Inniss as he won’t be able to play every game this season
- Two central midfielders better than Gilbey and Morgan
- Two wingers so we aren’t relying on DJ the whole time
- Striker to replace Aneke8 -
If true depends who it was and what the intentions were medium/ long termAddicks59 said:Anybody heard this rumour the new partner that Thomas was in discussions with has pulled out if true it is a massive loss.0 -
I think it was Airman who mentioned the new investment kicks in when we're in the Championship .0
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You say a couple of deals are close i take it there is something new you have heard about as last i saw you post it was just the winger you mentioned was close that we have been after for a whileCovered_End_Lad said:Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.
any more juicy teasers who the other close one is ...0 -
The partnership in dubai and is being set up by Robbo like it was announced. Quite awhile ago I was told that we where in discussions with new proposed partners roughly the same time the barclay rumor came back to life I never took a lot of notice at the time it since has grown in credibility but the rumour now it has collapsed and the partner has walked.2
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Yes, 100%. AMB will be loaned out, gains nothing as a number 2 again all season. Needs to be playing now.covered_end_junior said:
This, and a gk if AMB is loaned out.Sage said:
I agree. Personally think we need:Scoham said:
Only 4-5 would mean something like LB, CB, CM, W, STCovered_End_Lad said:Everyone please chill out. We will sign 4-5 more players without a doubt. 2-3 will be loans and they almost always happen right at the end of the window due to Prem clubs announcing their squads and the filter down effect that has.
Plenty of work is happening in the background with a couple of deals very close. Those at the club are well aware that we are short, but also aware that it is better to wait a few weeks and get the right players rather than just signing what is available right now to appease fans and bolster numbers.
We will have a very competitive squad come end of the window, of that I can promise. Whether it is good enough to finish top 2 rather than top 6 will be up for debate. Wigan and Ipswich are spending a LOT of money and I’m glad we aren’t doing that.
P.s whoever said we missed out on Fraser bye £300 p/w is missing a zero off the end, he is another player on more than £10k at Ipswich.
I’d like to think it’ll be a few more to give us proper depth across the midfield.
- Left back as good as or better than Purrington
- Centre back who can step in for Inniss as he won’t be able to play every game this season
- Two central midfielders better than Gilbey and Morgan
- Two wingers so we aren’t relying on DJ the whole time
- Striker to replace Aneke6 -
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Yes he is !Addick_8 said:
No he isn’t.Maccn05 said:
But not when we ended the season. Even back to your selective point view we had Alfie who’s better than any member of the current squad.Addick_8 said:
We most certainly aren’t behind where we was last season. Our starting line up for Crewe away is currently worse than our strongest first 11 as of today.Maccn05 said:
I said we’re behind where we were last season, not that they were world beaters… butLaddick01 said:Aneke maybe.
Millar and Maatsen. Give me a break.
Both have the potential to be good but were far too inconsistent.Players always get better when they’re gone.
who in our squad right now doc we have that’s better than them? We don’t! So we’re behind where we finished in May 👍🏼0
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