January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)

AFKABartram

mendonca said:

We need to distinguish between the deal being finalised near 11, to us approaching Swindon around this time and sending him to Sparrows Lane in a Supa Dupa Jet.

There’s always the assumption that when a deal is concluded late that it is down to the buyer (us), but it could be for a number of reasons.

Swindon may have agreed a deal in principle but were hoping for a higher bid. They may only have accepted ours very late. They may have been holding off confirming while they worked on another deal etc 

literally dozens of scenarios 

Simonsen

ValleyGary said:

Well done the club on what is a decent window in extremely difficult times and circumstances. 

I’m not one for digging out fans but the reaction prior to the last signing on Twitter and occasionally on here was a bit weird. Deadline day seems to turn grown men into annoying children. 

Like Christmas Eve and then a big sulk on Christmas Day when they didn't get the latest video game etc etc....

Cafc43v3r

Chunes said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Chunes said:

Rothko said:

Wheresmeticket? said:

PeanutsMolloy said:

Wheresmeticket? said:

Apparently being pissed off at what looks like bad news and then cheered by good news is a sign of hypocrisy, not a normal reaction. 

I'm just sorry we didn't get that Barnsley midfielder over the line.

Try reading the whole thread Chief.
This is what it was like on here 10-11pm.....



Pathetic

I was on the thread, chief,  and what I saw was people who were understandably worried by the shipping out of two players and no sign of any incoming.

I don't really get this pleasure in slagging off  other fans for daring to voice their opinions and concerns.  On a forum.

All I saw where people complaining that Sandgaard wasn’t matching whatever number came into the heads of the owners at Exeter, petulant children everywhere 

Which is made worse by the fact that Sandgaard when he doesn't decide if player valuations are correct. That's Steve Gallen's job. Same thing with Sorba Thomas, clearly we could afford him, but Gallen decided he wasn't worth that amount and we moved on.

No problem with any of that, I don't think anyone has suggested other wise?

The "bed wetting" was when it looked like we had missed out on Kirk, had still let Williams go and were looking like missing out on Morris.  Even if we had got Morris to replace Williams questions would have been asked. 

There wasn't even a mention of DJ until about 5 to 11.   That was what caused the concern. 

Yeah there were posts complaining that Sandgaard wasn't willing to splash out for Randall. 

Demanding someone spends their own money to by a player you had probably never heard of is silly, at best. 

But until 10.55 it looked like another transfer window of older players and loans. 

We all know that that cycle had to stop at some stage and in a way its a monkey of his back that it has now.  The bed wetting would have been far worse if it had carried on into July and August. 

JohnfromNorfolk

Bolderhumphreyreid said:

Am I the only one to never notice opposition players?

Now that's a very interesting point.
I have to admit that I always intend to notice the opposing players at the Valley, but in reality only see the red and white of Charlton.
For many years I've had freebies to watch Norwich city play.
I have no emotional attachment to Norwich city football club what so ever so can actually watch the game rather that just seeing it.
Often, most times actually, as I sit amongst the Norwich faithful, listening to their reactions, I wonder if we are watching the same game!!  
Win lose or draw it doesn't matter to me, so I can just enjoy the game.
However watching Charlton, I only want to see us win and rarely notice the opposition players. 
 
 

RedArmySE7

Really wanted to 'LOL' this, but it didn't seem right.

Belv

DJ is the sort of signing I like to see us make but supporting Charlton has made me very cynical and always cautious.

Swindon are 3rd bottom. How good do you have to be to be their best player?
Also, remember when we signed MK Dons' best player?

Generally, really pleased with the signing but not going to stick him on a pedestal just yet.

cabbles

For his  and our sake I hope he doesn’t pull out of a tackle if he’s playing tonight ;-) 

SouthWest_Addicks

AFKABartram said:

mendonca said:

We need to distinguish between the deal being finalised near 11, to us approaching Swindon around this time and sending him to Sparrows Lane in a Supa Dupa Jet.

There’s always the assumption that when a deal is concluded late that it is down to the buyer (us), but it could be for a number of reasons.

Swindon may have agreed a deal in principle but were hoping for a higher bid. They may only have accepted ours very late. They may have been holding off confirming while they worked on another deal etc 

literally dozens of scenarios 

On the Leeds documentary on Amazon they are trying to sign Daniel James from Swansea. Everything is agreed, medial completed, press article completed, contract signed. They were just waiting for a signature from Swansea end. Swansea owners changed their mind and went radio silence. Deal never went ahead as no one could get the blokes signature to complete the deal. 

Danny Addick

So it seems as if Randall and Kirk were top targets. DJ doesn’t seem much worse from what we are seeing/hearing though! I wonder what went wrong at Crewe with Kirk if we Crawley thought we were confident about getting him yesterday morning? Their statement on matters doesn’t clear much up imo. 

RaplhMilne

JohnfromNorfolk said:

Bolderhumphreyreid said:

Am I the only one to never notice opposition players?

Now that's a very interesting point.
I have to admit that I always intend to notice the opposing players at the Valley, but in reality only see the red and white of Charlton.
For many years I've had freebies to watch Norwich city play.
I have no emotional attachment to Norwich city football club what so ever so can actually watch the game rather that just seeing it.
Often, most times actually, as I sit amongst the Norwich faithful, listening to their reactions, I wonder if we are watching the same game!!  
Win lose or draw it doesn't matter to me, so I can just enjoy the game.
However watching Charlton, I only want to see us win and rarely notice the opposition players. 
 
 

Remember watching Steve Brown, having a bloody mare in a game, got absolutely roasted, bloke was going round him, like he was a bloody stationary roundabout. Said to my son afterwards fecking Brown had a nightmare, that bloke went round him every time. He said “Come-on Dad it was David Beckham” ...... I never really noticed, to me Brown had a poor day. 

RaplhMilne

As for DJ scored against us and had an assist..... ! That’s a pretty big list this season. 

stoneroses19

Danny Addick said:

So it seems as if Randall and Kirk were top targets. DJ doesn’t seem much worse from what we are seeing/hearing though! I wonder what went wrong at Crewe with Kirk if we Crawley thought we were confident about getting him yesterday morning? Their statement on matters doesn’t clear much up imo. 

Possibly a third-party agent was getting too involved. Not sure if we were duped by the wrong agent and weren’t actually in conversation with the club. By the time we spoke to the club, they had no interest in selling Kirk. Just a guess. 

I had said earlier yesterday, when the Kirk rumours all came out, including on sky sports, that the friends I know in Crewe were not aware of any such rumour or bid from us. 

killerandflash

kafka said:

Excuse my ignorance, but how do these last minute deals work? When and how was a medical done? Swindon's at least 2 hours away. Are there standard contract terms? Any deal involving a 3 year contract usually takes a while to agree all the details. 

As an aside, given the number of deals in the EFL yesterday, from a Covid lockdown perspective there were an awful lot of young men criss crossing the country to get medicals and be unveiled...

While further up there were a number of international deals, players swapping countries

church-lane

Dazzler21 said:

Marriott110 said:

DA9 said:

Now he’s gone (probably permanently eventually) I’m happier than I was originally to reveal that a week into joining us, Maddison contacted my daughter on a dating app and wanted to meet her etc, wisely & luckily (for him) she knocked him back, her words were, she thought he was “fit” 😳 but, he came across as a bit of a knob.
I’m in no way suggesting that had any bearing on Bowyers decision to let him go, but I’m claiming it 😄

Did the same to a friend of mine too, wasn't too impressed when he was already back on Insta messaging her after he was subbed off at Burton away before the game had even finished!

Funny these stories haven't come out sooner, I totally believe them as another trusted poster has told me similar last night.

Tried it with me too but I binned him off! Didnt fancy 12 stones of tattooed monster on me back. Not while I'm out if chokey anyway.

Danny Addick

stoneroses19 said:

Danny Addick said:

So it seems as if Randall and Kirk were top targets. DJ doesn’t seem much worse from what we are seeing/hearing though! I wonder what went wrong at Crewe with Kirk if we Crawley thought we were confident about getting him yesterday morning? Their statement on matters doesn’t clear much up imo. 

Possibly a third-party agent was getting too involved. Not sure if we were duped by the wrong agent and weren’t actually in conversation with the club. By the time we spoke to the club, they had no interest in selling Kirk. Just a guess. 

I had said earlier yesterday, when the Kirk rumours all came out, including on sky sports, that the friends I know in Crewe were not aware of any such rumour or bid from us. 

Thanks for the reply, seems likely that you’ve got it right

PeanutsMolloy

Redrobo said:

Take a big bow Bowyer, SG and TS. A huge five player up grade in the window.

That must have been the hardest window ever with the CAP added to the complications. We are so lucky to have the three of them. COYR’s!

This x100

Dazzler21

Garrymanilow said:

Dazzler21 said:

Marriott110 said:

DA9 said:

Now he’s gone (probably permanently eventually) I’m happier than I was originally to reveal that a week into joining us, Maddison contacted my daughter on a dating app and wanted to meet her etc, wisely & luckily (for him) she knocked him back, her words were, she thought he was “fit” 😳 but, he came across as a bit of a knob.
I’m in no way suggesting that had any bearing on Bowyers decision to let him go, but I’m claiming it 😄

Did the same to a friend of mine too, wasn't too impressed when he was already back on Insta messaging her after he was subbed off at Burton away before the game had even finished!

Funny these stories haven't come out sooner, I totally believe them as another trusted poster has told me similar last night.

You sure they're not being fed a story by the Bowyer camp?

Nope. I trust this poster for having previously given good info. 

Stig

DA9 said:

Now he’s gone (probably permanently eventually) I’m happier than I was originally to reveal that a week into joining us, Maddison contacted my daughter on a dating app and wanted to meet her etc, wisely & luckily (for him) she knocked him back, her words were, she thought he was “fit” 😳 but, he came across as a bit of a knob.
I’m in no way suggesting that had any bearing on Bowyers decision to let him go, but I’m claiming it 😄

I'm a bit miffed about this myself. How on earth are dating apps allowed to operate in a lockdown?

cafcdave123

SamE7 said:

robroy said:

SamE7 said:

DA9 said:

Now he’s gone (probably permanently eventually) I’m happier than I was originally to reveal that a week into joining us, Maddison contacted my daughter on a dating app and wanted to meet her etc, wisely & luckily (for him) she knocked him back, her words were, she thought he was “fit” 😳 but, he came across as a bit of a knob.
I’m in no way suggesting that had any bearing on Bowyers decision to let him go, but I’m claiming it 😄

He done the same to a girl my mate was seeing and ended up shagging her. Needless to say they aren't seeing each other anymore 

Was your mate a charlton fan? That would cut deep if he was 

Yeah, he is a big fan, season ticket. Proper fan. Safe to say he doesn't particularly like him much

he should report the pair of them for breaking lockdown and spray-paint "SLAG" on her house 

Leuth

Stig said:

DA9 said:

Now he’s gone (probably permanently eventually) I’m happier than I was originally to reveal that a week into joining us, Maddison contacted my daughter on a dating app and wanted to meet her etc, wisely & luckily (for him) she knocked him back, her words were, she thought he was “fit” 😳 but, he came across as a bit of a knob.
I’m in no way suggesting that had any bearing on Bowyers decision to let him go, but I’m claiming it 😄

I'm a bit miffed about this myself. How on earth are dating apps allowed to operate in a lockdown?

Single-household lockdown bubbles are allowed! On a serious note some of us are living alone and dating apps are somewhat necessary for morale (although funnily enough in some cases like...my friend's...it isn't working out that way either) 

Leuth

Anyway, we have now gotten rid of EVERY player I have had to defend from the vultures. There are NO SCAPEGOATS LEFT. My work is hopefully done.

It's Maatsen isn't it. 

eastterrace6168

RedArmySE7 said:

Really wanted to 'LOL' this, but it didn't seem right.

So, he is obviously proud of his achievement, and you have captured
a significant LOL total roseandcrown into the bargain

Chunes

Leuth said:

Anyway, we have now gotten rid of EVERY player I have had to defend from the vultures. There are NO SCAPEGOATS LEFT. My work is hopefully done.

It's Maatsen isn't it. 

You could always stick up for Gilbey

Leuth

Chunes said:

Leuth said:

Anyway, we have now gotten rid of EVERY player I have had to defend from the vultures. There are NO SCAPEGOATS LEFT. My work is hopefully done.

It's Maatsen isn't it. 

You could always stick up for Gilbey

That would require a serious volte-face.

Dazzler21

Leuth said:

Anyway, we have now gotten rid of EVERY player I have had to defend from the vultures. There are NO SCAPEGOATS LEFT. My work is hopefully done.

It's Maatsen isn't it. 

Gilbey was next... 

EDIT

Ha ha didn't see I was reading the second to last page as hadn't refreshed... 

Chunes said:

Leuth said:

Anyway, we have now gotten rid of EVERY player I have had to defend from the vultures. There are NO SCAPEGOATS LEFT. My work is hopefully done.

It's Maatsen isn't it. 

You could always stick up for Gilbey

great minds. 

Leuth

I have another issue now. In the actually likely scenario all the loanees are fit, who misses out? Ridiculously hard on Shinnie but it's him isn't it? 

Leuth

Or maybe the plan is to rotate Shinnie and Smith 

iaitch

Danny Addick said:

So it seems as if Randall and Kirk were top targets. DJ doesn’t seem much worse from what we are seeing/hearing though! I wonder what went wrong at Crewe with Kirk if we Crawley thought we were confident about getting him yesterday morning? Their statement on matters doesn’t clear much up imo. 

Seems like the deals for Randall and Kirk are deceased.

Covered_End_Lad

Leuth said:

I have another issue now. In the actually likely scenario all the loanees are fit, who misses out? Ridiculously hard on Shinnie but it's him isn't it? 

No idea, but i think a fit shinnie might be the first name on LBs teamsheet.

killerandflash

Leuth said:

I have another issue now. In the actually likely scenario all the loanees are fit, who misses out? Ridiculously hard on Shinnie but it's him isn't it? 

Smith surely

I can see Maatsen being rested for the odd game though, which would enable the other 5 to all play