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  • I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.

    You might want to read this:

    https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/

    Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends. 

    It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.
  • I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.

    You might want to read this:

    https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/

    Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends. 

    It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.
    Indeed, as is indicated by the shaded areas in Figure 4, economic inactivity due to long-term sickness has been rising consistently on an annual basis for the past four-and-a-half years since the summer of 2019 (before the Covid-19 pandemic). ii This is the second-longest sustained rise in sickness-related inactivity on record, and is only one month shorter than the longest rise, seen between 1994-1998. The consistency of this rise is what will worry policymakers (and Treasury officials) the most: it does not appear to be a short-term, Covid-19-related, blip.’


  • I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.

    You might want to read this:

    https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/

    Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends. 

    It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.
    Do yourself a favour. 
    Move on from your obsession about Covid and have a nice holiday. 

  • RobRob
    edited May 1
    Rob said:
    The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally. 
    It doesn't need a severe infection to cause Long Covid and there are studies that show that repeated infections increases the likelihood of developing Long Covid.


    I think my doctor would have told me that if she had a concern. Most people are healthily moving on from Covid. Obsession/ paranoia can be a disease unto itself. 
  • bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Due in no small part to the lockdowns.
    It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
  • bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Due in no small part to the lockdowns.
    It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
    I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems. 

    I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
  • aliwibble said:
    Stig said:
    Confidence interval bar chart showing that those aged 45 to 54 years are most likely to report long COVID.


    Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill. 
    Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?
    Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?
    Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year. 

    A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.

    How are you now @aliwibble




    Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.
  • I work in career development so these sort of things interest me.

    You might want to read this:

    https://www.resolutionfoundation.org/publications/a-u-shaped-legacy/

    Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends. 

    Resolution foundation are excellent on basically every social issue. Incredibly detailed well researched evidenced based information. Do a hell of a lot of good and influence policy. Almost got my dream job there pre covid but didn't quite.

    Well worth a follow on twitter as is Torston Bell the Chief exec (rumoured to be a Charlton fan too but unconfirmed).
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  • Rare side effects 

    Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally

    The milk of human kindness...

    https://dailysceptic.org/2024/05/01/government-caught-playing-hardball-over-vaccine-injury-payouts-as-victims-legal-bills-mount/

  • bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Due in no small part to the lockdowns.
    It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
    Wow, that's a big assumption, the kind of person who does that is far more likely to have a personality disorder.

  • aliwibble said:
    aliwibble said:
    Stig said:
    Confidence interval bar chart showing that those aged 45 to 54 years are most likely to report long COVID.


    Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill. 
    Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?
    Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?
    Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year. 

    A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.

    How are you now @aliwibble




    Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.
    I'm sorry to hear that @aliwibble but glad that you were able to be treated quickly.

    As you know my interest in Covid started when a friend reported about her condition on Facebook. She had a severe infection in the very early days of the pandemic and it took a couple of years for her to reach anything like normal life. She still posts occasionally about ongoing problems and is frustrated at the lack of understanding by so many people

    It was hearing her story that first brought to my attention, the fact that the SARS-Cov-2 virus causes far more than a respiratory infection.

    As this is a football forum I've posted a link below to the problems experienced by an Irish footballer whose life has been drastically affected by Long Covid.

    https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/shamrock-rovers-star-breaks-silence-32708100?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1zfxEOFRRntbaG1JmDWjCDZkdZ37s_VF0qaOEMiEK14G8twr-gycyOFS8_aem_AUu2tRFQLElfATRyiEC8STCno6s_ujJuGbRcoQlghS6xcuzEQft0_QI8j99TaCDs9SHqRuhnpHt4fAjFuKG0EGMF
  • bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Which can also be caused by Covid

    Long Covid symptoms

    What are the symptoms of long Covid?

    Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:

    1. fatigue
    2. difficulty concentrating
    3. muscle aches
    4. shortness of breath

    However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:

    Heart and circulatory symptoms

    • chest tightness or pain
    • heart palpitations
    • changes to heart rate

    Joint and muscle pain

    • muscle and join paint
    • pain in the back or shoulders

    Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms

    • not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’) 
    • headaches
    • hallucinations
    • amnesia
    • dizziness
    • difficulty with motor function or speech
    • pins and needles

    Mental health effects

    • symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
    • symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
    • symptoms of PTSD

    Respiratory symptoms

    • persistent cough
    • sore throat
    • difficulty breathing

    Stomach and digestive symptoms

    • stomach pain
    • diarrhoea
    • vomiting
    • bowel incontinence

    Ear nose and throat symptoms

    • changes to sense of smell or taste
    • earache
    • ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

    General symptoms

    • nausea
    • a high temperature
    • feeling hot and cold
    • heavy arms or legs

    Skin and hair symptoms

    • hair loss
    • skin rashes
    So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice. 
  • Dazzler21 said:
    bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Which can also be caused by Covid

    Long Covid symptoms

    What are the symptoms of long Covid?

    Up to 5 March 2023, the most commonly reported long Covid symptoms were:

    1. fatigue
    2. difficulty concentrating
    3. muscle aches
    4. shortness of breath

    However, there are many other symptoms of long Covid that have been identified through research. They include:

    Heart and circulatory symptoms

    • chest tightness or pain
    • heart palpitations
    • changes to heart rate

    Joint and muscle pain

    • muscle and join paint
    • pain in the back or shoulders

    Brain (neurological or cognitive) symptoms

    • not being able to think straight or focus (‘brain fog’) 
    • headaches
    • hallucinations
    • amnesia
    • dizziness
    • difficulty with motor function or speech
    • pins and needles

    Mental health effects

    • symptoms of anxiety, such as worrying, feeling on edge or having difficulty sleeping
    • symptoms of depression such as low mood, feeling helpless, having low motivation, or not enjoying usual activities
    • symptoms of PTSD

    Respiratory symptoms

    • persistent cough
    • sore throat
    • difficulty breathing

    Stomach and digestive symptoms

    • stomach pain
    • diarrhoea
    • vomiting
    • bowel incontinence

    Ear nose and throat symptoms

    • changes to sense of smell or taste
    • earache
    • ringing in the ears (tinnitus)

    General symptoms

    • nausea
    • a high temperature
    • feeling hot and cold
    • heavy arms or legs

    Skin and hair symptoms

    • hair loss
    • skin rashes
    So basically any symptom now = Long Covid... Nice. 
    Yes, a Covid infection can cause all of those, that's why the narrative that 'Covid is over' is so wrong.
  • edited May 2
    I see nothing has changed on this thread 🤣. I called it about two years ago and got accused of ‘bullying’ when it’s always worked both ways.

    Trying to pass off mental health problems as a symptom of catching Covid in the context the original comment was made, is reaching at its worst and not a good look.
  • My stool was a big gloopy this morning. Looks like I'll be joining the LC gang ✌️
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  • I won't respond to the individual comments, which are too childish to bother with,  but the sheer number of Long Covid symptoms shows that this is not  just a cold, but a virus that can do damage throughout the body. 
  • Had my fifth this week, and still not dead
  • bobmunro said:
    shine166 said:
    bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Due in no small part to the lockdowns.
    It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
    I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems. 

    I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
    You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years. 
    Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.







    At best, they are certainly hedging their bets.

    The list of symptoms of 'Long Covid' on the list you posted is laughable - as Shooters said, it will be years, maybe decades before we know enough about the longer term impact of Covid infections - if ever. By listing what they have it's an admission that they haven't got a scooby. On any given day I would hazard a guess that a significant number of the population (and by that I mean 10s of millions) could self-report one or more of those symptoms as it pretty much covers everything. That's the problem with self-reporting - you say the symptoms are very diverse (you aint kidding) and there is no one test that fits all. THERE ARE NO TESTS for whatever Long Covid is or might be.

    You have also said that people who are ill should not go out - would that be if they have any of those symptoms?
    Well that's baldybonce stuck indoors for the foreseeable then.
  • edited May 2
    shine166 said:
    bobmunro said:
     Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again.
    Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them.
    They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
    There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from. 

    I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.

    This is a thread on Covid  if you don't want to read it  you don't have to.

    Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?

    The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?

    Genuine questions.
    The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all. 

    What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.

    The British Heart Foundation & NHS websites gives some information:
    https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/long-covid

    https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/covid-19/long-term-effects-of-covid-19-long-covid/


    The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.

    Due in no small part to the lockdowns.
    It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
    I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems. 

    I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
    You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years. 
    Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.






    Your list of symptoms covers almost every single ailment that a human being can have. Since when were the BHF specialists in mental health and anxiety ? 


  • All comes down to personal preference and the risks involved based on the situation and medical history. Bit like wearing a "johnny" with a new partner. :open_mouth:
  • Rothko said:
    Had my fifth this week, and still not dead
    Living on borrowed time according to some on this thread. 
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