The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally.
It doesn't need a severe infection to cause Long Covid and there are studies that show that repeated infections increases the likelihood of developing Long Covid.
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.
It seems to confirm that sickness has increased enormously in the last 4 years.
‘Indeed, as is indicated by the shaded areas in Figure 4, economic inactivity due to long-term sickness has been rising consistently on an annual basis for the past four-and-a-half years since the summer of 2019 (before the Covid-19 pandemic). ii This is the second-longest sustained rise in sickness-related inactivity on record, and is only one month shorter than the longest rise, seen between 1994-1998. The consistency of this rise is what will worry policymakers (and Treasury officials) the most: it does not appear to be a short-term, Covid-19-related, blip.’
The original COVID could be very severe with long lasting effects for some. But, let’s get some balance here. I was at the doctor's yesterday for my annual check up. We were talking about Covid a bit and she said the recent variant of COVID is mild. I, like others, don’t understand the continued obsession with Covid and its long term effects. Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally.
It doesn't need a severe infection to cause Long Covid and there are studies that show that repeated infections increases the likelihood of developing Long Covid.
I think my doctor would have told me that if she had a concern. Most people are healthily moving on from Covid. Obsession/ paranoia can be a disease unto itself.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?
Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year.
A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.
Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.
While I'm here, I know this is a contentious issue, but can people NOT chuck about diagnosis of other posters' mental health like confetti please? If you're qualified it's a breach of professional ethics, and if you're not qualified then you're not in a position to comment. Thank you.
Particularly the parts around sickness inactivity trends.
Resolution foundation are excellent on basically every social issue. Incredibly detailed well researched evidenced based information. Do a hell of a lot of good and influence policy. Almost got my dream job there pre covid but didn't quite.
Well worth a follow on twitter as is Torston Bell the Chief exec (rumoured to be a Charlton fan too but unconfirmed).
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Interesting drop of at age 65, presumably because there's less social contact amongst a group that no longer works. Either that or there's less likelihood of them noticing something being up because their natural state is to feel tired and ill.
Vaccinated group so less likely to have Long Covid?
Or those who got Covid in those age groups were more likely to die, so aren't here to suffer Long Covid?
Possibly, the latest figures I've seen are that over 4000 people have died of Covid since the start of the year.
A new variant is now in circulation which will increase the numbers suffering from Long Covid.
Thanks for asking @ME14Addick. Unfortunately I had a bout of pneumonia in February/March (fever of 103, saved a fortune on the heating for a couple of weeks) and that's set me back a bit, both in terms of the general fatigue and feeling like my brain is mush. Ironically, one of the side effects of having Long Covid meant I got seen more quickly at the Urgent Care Centre, as they use a pulse ox device at the booking desk, and the fact my pulse rate still shoots up to 135 if I stand up for more than a few minutes meant I got bumped up the list to be triaged. Still had to wait an hour though.
I'm sorry to hear that @aliwibble but glad that you were able to be treated quickly.
As you know my interest in Covid started when a friend reported about her condition on Facebook. She had a severe infection in the very early days of the pandemic and it took a couple of years for her to reach anything like normal life. She still posts occasionally about ongoing problems and is frustrated at the lack of understanding by so many people
It was hearing her story that first brought to my attention, the fact that the SARS-Cov-2 virus causes far more than a respiratory infection.
As this is a football forum I've posted a link below to the problems experienced by an Irish footballer whose life has been drastically affected by Long Covid.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
I see nothing has changed on this thread 🤣. I called it about two years ago and got accused of ‘bullying’ when it’s always worked both ways.
Trying to pass off mental health problems as a symptom of catching Covid in the context the original comment was made, is reaching at its worst and not a good look.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.
I won't respond to the individual comments, which are too childish to bother with, but the sheer number of Long Covid symptoms shows that this is not just a cold, but a virus that can do damage throughout the body.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.
At best, they are certainly hedging their bets.
The list of symptoms of 'Long Covid' on the list you posted is laughable - as Shooters said, it will be years, maybe decades before we know enough about the longer term impact of Covid infections - if ever. By listing what they have it's an admission that they haven't got a scooby. On any given day I would hazard a guess that a significant number of the population (and by that I mean 10s of millions) could self-report one or more of those symptoms as it pretty much covers everything. That's the problem with self-reporting - you say the symptoms are very diverse (you aint kidding) and there is no one test that fits all. THERE ARE NO TESTS for whatever Long Covid is or might be.
You have also said that people who are ill should not go out - would that be if they have any of those symptoms?
I won't respond to the individual comments, which are too childish to bother with, but the sheer number of Long Covid symptoms shows that this is not just a cold, but a virus that can do damage throughout the body.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.
At best, they are certainly hedging their bets.
The list of symptoms of 'Long Covid' on the list you posted is laughable - as Shooters said, it will be years, maybe decades before we know enough about the longer term impact of Covid infections - if ever. By listing what they have it's an admission that they haven't got a scooby. On any given day I would hazard a guess that a significant number of the population (and by that I mean 10s of millions) could self-report one or more of those symptoms as it pretty much covers everything. That's the problem with self-reporting - you say the symptoms are very diverse (you aint kidding) and there is no one test that fits all. THERE ARE NO TESTS for whatever Long Covid is or might be.
You have also said that people who are ill should not go out - would that be if they have any of those symptoms?
Well that's baldybonce stuck indoors for the foreseeable then.
Although you may wonder why (especially having had the experience I had back in 2020), that I very rarely read the COVID related threads these days……it’s because of posters like Redskin and ME14 who have totally high jacked them with their obsessive bullshit by finding a thousand and one ways of saying the same thing over and over and over again. Talk about boring the pants off of those of us who were seriously affected…..to be honest, I find it highly insulting to question the integrity and knowledge of persons who are medically trained who have despairingly tried to reason with them. They have ruined, what might otherwise have been very interesting threads and driven away some very knowledgeable posters……I wish they would just fuck off.
There are hundreds of scientific studies, published in reputable publications which detail the effects of the SARS-COV-2 virus. They are not the conspiracy sites that some others quote from.
I quoted earlier from the ONS which ran a survey over the winter. Approximately 2 million people in the UK with Long Covid. That is a very significant number.
This is a thread on Covid if you don't want to read it you don't have to.
Has Long Covid been fully classified, i.e. causes, physiological process, symptoms, treatments etc...?
The approximate figure of £2million you cite - is this formally diagnosed against a full classification of the disease, or self-reported (or a combination of both)?
Genuine questions.
The ONS site says it is self reported, but the symptoms are very diverse and there is no one test that fits all.
What is in no doubt is that the number of people who are unable to work is extremely high, far higher than before the pandemic started. Whilst no doubt some of those will be on the unacceptably long waiting lists for treatment for other things, it does not seem unreasonable to me and many others, that a NEW virus, that it known to cause problems throughout the body is the cause of a considerable amount of the current sickness in the UK.
The biggest driver of long term sickness for the workforce post pandemic is mental health issues.
Due in no small part to the lockdowns. It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I posted links earlier to both NHS and British Heart Foundation sites giving Long Covid symptoms, both listed anxiety, depression and mental health problems.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
You don't get depression or anxiety from having covid, the mental health issues are a result of the ridiculous restrictions that were in place and the shrinking standards to overall quality of life that we've seen globally over the last 3/4 years.
Do you think therefore that the NHS and British Heart Foundation are giving out incorrect information? They both list depression and mental health issues as symptoms of Long Covid.
Your list of symptoms covers almost every single ailment that a human being can have. Since when were the BHF specialists in mental health and anxiety ?
All comes down to personal preference and the risks involved based on the situation and medical history. Bit like wearing a "johnny" with a new partner.
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Move on from your obsession about Covid and have a nice holiday.
It's now quite common to have people wandering the streets, murdering people with swords and machetes.
I'm frequently ridiculed for posting about Covid on a thread about Covid. I think that says more about those people than it does about me.
Well worth a follow on twitter as is Torston Bell the Chief exec (rumoured to be a Charlton fan too but unconfirmed).
Rare side effects
Let’s just move on with our lives in a healthy way both physically and mentally
The milk of human kindness...
https://dailysceptic.org/2024/05/01/government-caught-playing-hardball-over-vaccine-injury-payouts-as-victims-legal-bills-mount/
As you know my interest in Covid started when a friend reported about her condition on Facebook. She had a severe infection in the very early days of the pandemic and it took a couple of years for her to reach anything like normal life. She still posts occasionally about ongoing problems and is frustrated at the lack of understanding by so many people
It was hearing her story that first brought to my attention, the fact that the SARS-Cov-2 virus causes far more than a respiratory infection.
As this is a football forum I've posted a link below to the problems experienced by an Irish footballer whose life has been drastically affected by Long Covid.
https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/soccer/soccer-news/shamrock-rovers-star-breaks-silence-32708100?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR1zfxEOFRRntbaG1JmDWjCDZkdZ37s_VF0qaOEMiEK14G8twr-gycyOFS8_aem_AUu2tRFQLElfATRyiEC8STCno6s_ujJuGbRcoQlghS6xcuzEQft0_QI8j99TaCDs9SHqRuhnpHt4fAjFuKG0EGMF
Trying to pass off mental health problems as a symptom of catching Covid in the context the original comment was made, is reaching at its worst and not a good look.
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