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How Likely Are You To Take The Covid Vaccine?

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  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
  • Redskin said:
    This from ME14

    I thought that one post which gave links to 122 other studies giving evidence of how the whole body can be affected should be shared with others

    You cannot be unaware of the numerous posts that ask/suggest you allow people to make their own decisions on what they do or don't decide to research or, indeed, how they conduct their own behaviour with regard to all things Covid.
    No doubt you will protest that you are simply imparting 'information' that you think will be beneficial to the subject which in itself might be of some virtue and which you are perfectly entitled to post, but it's the relentlessly, repetitious voluminous nature of it that becomes tiresome in the extreme.
    To the point where he’s considered by many on here to be suffering from some kind of repetitive thought psychosis…..not sure if that’s the correct wording to describe his condition…..but I think you all know what I’m saying.
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    Oh Christ, don’t encourage him.
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    Oh Christ, don’t encourage him.
    It's her, not him.
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    Oh Christ, don’t encourage him.
    Ive never encountered someone like thisnliterally tge polar opposite of the conspiracy theorist crowd.
  • Having lost my dad to lung cancer, if a vaccination became available I would take it. I recognise that this is a somewhat hypocritical position though, because as horrid a way to go as cancer is I think that everyone has to go sometime and perhaps the last thing the planet needs is a load of comparatively well off westerners living for years longer than their natural term. If I were going to give to a cancer charity I'd rather give to MacMillan who from what I've see specialise in practical help and palliative care rather than Cancer UK who seem focussed on cures. I'd rather see funding put into improving quality of life than extending it. For me the greater good would be served by curing arthritis (currently 10 million cases in the UK alone) and other physical and mental conditions that can blight people's lives for decades. That doesn't mean that I am unsympathetic to people who have cancer, I just think that there should perhaps be other priorities.
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how much.




  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how much.




    Thats great answer to a question im not asking, ill try again what do YOU specially wish to see in place ? What measures should people take in everyday life ?
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  • edited March 22

    @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how 
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how much.




    I think you make a lot of good points, however if it's people over 85 who are most likely to be hospitalised, maybe the focus for compulsory air filtration should be shops, public buildings, doctors surgeries and hospitals rather than schools. NB, I say this without having a clue what the regulations are like for any of those building types. 
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how much.




    Thats great answer to a question im not asking, ill try again what do YOU specially wish to see in place ? What measures should people take in everyday life ?
    Sorry I thought it was clear what I want to happen. I want people to not go out when they are unwell. There are still tests so if they really must go out, then take a test.

    I also want to see a recognition of the benefits of cleaner air in public places. Someone referred to the cost of doing this, but the costs of not doing so may be greater in the long run.

    I also want Governments and the media to be more open and honest about the long term effects that Covid can have on the body. These effects are many and varied and are already costing the UK economy a lot of money.

    I want there to be a widespread recognition that living with Covid does mean that some changes need to be made. There are things that can be done without the restrictions of the earlier pandemic years.

     Covid IS here to stay and will cause a lot more long term illness if we continue to let it spread with no thought for others.






  • Stig said:
    @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.

    Interestingly the UKHSA has just released a new statement only this week, as hospitalisations of people over 85 due to Covid infection has increased. In it they say that people should try to stay at home if unwell and if you must go out, try to wear a mask, to reduce the likelihood of infecting vulnerable people.

    There was a feature on BBC News today  about the increase in TB  which like Covid, is spread by aerosol. We're seeing an  increase in other diseases like whooping cough, measles & scarlet fever which had almost disappeared, it's just common sense not to go out if unwell to prevent the spread infection to others.

    Many are calling for cleaner air as I've previously said, that was another thing that was mentioned in the UKHSA advice, good ventilation is important in reducing viruses spread by aerosol. I would post a link for that but I'm using my phone and am not good at posting links on that device.

    The article I referred to about the costs to the UK economy of Long Covid,  showed that doing nothing may be more costly than putting in place measures such as fitting HEPA filters to clean the air we breathe. 

    Covid can still cause long term sickness which is already costing the UK economy a lot of money, that can't be ignored. The cost to the NHS is considerable, that article shows just how much.




    I think you make a lot of good points, however if it's people over 85 who are most likely to be hospitalised, maybe the focus for compulsory air filtration should be shops, public buildings, doctors surgeries and hospitals rather than schools. NB, I say this without having a clue what the regulations are like for any of those building types. 
    It isn't just the symptoms of an infection that is the main problem for children, it's the long term consequences of the infection,  they aren't immune to suffering from Long Covid, that's why there is a call for cleaner air in schools. Protecting the health of children should be a top priority. We could be condemning them to a lifetime of ill health by allowing them to have multiple infections.
  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.




    Or perhaps they saw the absolutely devastating impact of removing people from society for extended periods of time and changed their mind?

    or are only you capable of changing your mind, like you’re the only one capable of using Google. 
  • Stig said:
    Having lost my dad to lung cancer, if a vaccination became available I would take it. I recognise that this is a somewhat hypocritical position though, because as horrid a way to go as cancer is I think that everyone has to go sometime and perhaps the last thing the planet needs is a load of comparatively well off westerners living for years longer than their natural term. If I were going to give to a cancer charity I'd rather give to MacMillan who from what I've see specialise in practical help and palliative care rather than Cancer UK who seem focussed on cures. I'd rather see funding put into improving quality of life than extending it. For me the greater good would be served by curing arthritis (currently 10 million cases in the UK alone) and other physical and mental conditions that can blight people's lives for decades. That doesn't mean that I am unsympathetic to people who have cancer, I just think that there should perhaps be other priorities.
    This is an interesting post I think. From my perspective finding better treatments for cancer is paramount. Cancer is actually 200 plus different diseases grouped under the term. Cures look to me to be a long way off and will probably involve gene manipulation which is way down the track, but there are treatment breakthroughs for various cancers all the time. Not all cancers are a death sentence though so just like with other debilitating diseases like arthritis, very often people are living with unpleasant and life restricting symptoms for years. One in two of us are likely to have a diagnosis of cancer over our lifetime so for me finding better ways to treat and seek cures is about as important as it gets. An interesting discussion though. I wonder if we collectively as a world spent as much money on finding treatments and cures for all diseases as we do on killing one another just where we might be in terms of healthier and better lives. 
  • edited March 23
    @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    During the early part of the pandemic a lot of people were saying that there would be a different attitude to illness in future, and that people would refrain from going into public places if they were ill, to prevent infecting others, not just for Covid  but other infections diseases as well. Many think this is no longer necessary and that it doesn't matter if they pass on their germs to others.I don't think it's acceptable to go out when you might infect others.




    Or perhaps they saw the absolutely devastating impact of removing people from society for extended periods of time and changed their mind?

    or are only you capable of changing your mind, like you’re the only one capable of using Google. 
    There is plenty of evidence of the harm to children's future health from Covid infection. Preventing one child from going to school for a few days might prevent 20 others from becoming infected, to me that is a no brainer. 

    We have the tools to make schools and other public places safer by filtering the air we breathe. The cost to the economy of doing nothing may be greater than actually putting these systems in place. 

    There is an article on Sky News today about planning for the next epidemic, which could come at any time. Putting in measures to reduce infection now may well prevent the 'lockdowns' we saw in the early days of the recent pandemic, surely that's a good thing?

    We've been lucky so far in that the mutation of the SARS-Cov-2 virus has resulted in milder infections. It is not a given that the trend will continue.

    With climate change and human encroachment into habitats of other species, it makes it far more likely that a new virus will jump species resulting in a new pandemic.

    https://news.sky.com/story/next-pandemic-is-around-the-corner-expert-warns-but-would-lockdown-ever-happen-again-13097693

    The following is taken from the second link, though the whole article explains a lot more as it explains the cumulative risk of having successive infections.

    Asked whether the recent drop in MMR vaccines and the measles outbreak in the West Midlands are solely the result of anti-vax groups, he admits there has been "some outright anti-vax sentiment" around MMR that has had an impact, particularly on social media.

    But he stresses that addressing "missed opportunities" to use community leaders to engage with disenfranchised groups is just as important in reversing the problem.

    Prof Griffin says the delayed decision to vaccinate five to 11-year-olds in 2022 was bad for jab rates, alongside the then-health secretary Sajid Javid's description of the programme as "non-urgent". Data shows only around 10% of under-12s had a single dose.

    "The dithering and indecision around the benefits for vaccinating children was pretty damaging in the sense that if you look at uptake in younger groups, it's appalling," Prof Griffin adds.

    Primary courses of the vaccine are also no longer universally available for all age groups, aside from the clinically vulnerable and people who live with them.

    "So children turning five after September 2022 have to wait until they're in their 60s to have a vaccine, unless they become clinically vulnerable," Prof Griffin says.

    "The idea that repeated infections are a preferable means of generating population immunity to vaccines, especially in children, is a dangerous nonsense."


    https://news.sky.com/story/the-virus-is-still-evolving-at-an-incredible-rate-how-widespread-is-covid-now-and-how-many-people-are-dying-with-it-13059424?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

    I'm not sure what you are getting at with your final sentence, but I do believe that the vast majority of people are completely unaware of the ongoing risks of Covid infection as it is mostly referred to in the past tense.

  • Todays analysis draws together findings from our Winter Coronavirus COVID-19 Infection Study carried out in partnership with UKHSA The study has involved around 125000 participants and we are grateful to them for helping us to build on our understanding of the virus James Tucker Deputy Director Winter Covid Infection Survey ONS

    Long COVID symptoms adversely affected the day-to-day activities of 1.5 million people (74.7% of those with self-reported long COVID). 381,000 (19.2%) reported that their ability to undertake their day-to-day activities had been “limited a lot”.
    15 million people reported that long Covid symptoms adversely affected their day-to-day activitiesEngland and Scotland November 2023 to March 2024
    March 2023 62kMarch 2024 112k

    We wonder why there are so many sick people claiming disability benefit. When you let a virus that is known to cause damage to the body, rip through the population, this is the outcome. The number of children also suffering from Long Covid shows a big increase. Letting people believe that it is ok to have multiple infections and that it is just a cold is unforgiveable. This certainly has the makings of being the next big scandal and cover-up.
  • Any update on when we’ll be able to buy a Covid booster jab?
  • se9addick said:
    Any update on when we’ll be able to buy a Covid booster jab?
    According to this article, you can buy them now, however the cost is likely to put off a lot of people. 

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55045639
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  • My wife and daughter got their jab at Boots Bluewater at the weekend, £97.50 each.

    A bit eye watering but the criteria for a free jab has reduced quite a bit and will be even smaller come the Autumn booster so it was not surprising to see quite a number of people from all age ranges paying out.

    By the way anyone living in Kent the only Boots offering the jab is Maidstone, Chatham and Bluewater.  If you pop into London the the nearest is Gallions Reach. 
  • Todays analysis draws together findings from our Winter Coronavirus COVID-19 Infection Study carried out in partnership with UKHSA The study has involved around 125000 participants and we are grateful to them for helping us to build on our understanding of the virus James Tucker Deputy Director Winter Covid Infection Survey ONS

    Long COVID symptoms adversely affected the day-to-day activities of 1.5 million people (74.7% of those with self-reported long COVID). 381,000 (19.2%) reported that their ability to undertake their day-to-day activities had been “limited a lot”.
    15 million people reported that long Covid symptoms adversely affected their day-to-day activitiesEngland and Scotland November 2023 to March 2024
    March 2023 62kMarch 2024 112k

    We wonder why there are so many sick people claiming disability benefit. When you let a virus that is known to cause damage to the body, rip through the population, this is the outcome. The number of children also suffering from Long Covid shows a big increase. Letting people believe that it is ok to have multiple infections and that it is just a cold is unforgiveable. This certainly has the makings of being the next big scandal and cover-up.
    I think you know my views well enough by now but what would you have us all do differently? It’s a new virus to add to all the others out there we have to contend with on a daily basis. Is Covid worse than herpes - yes. Is it worse than smallpox - no. We live in the world that’s full of potentially dangerous diseases and yes we should do what each of us think is right for them to protect themselves. A great man once said “it is what it is”. That’s the reality. The balance at present is about right. 
  • edited April 29
    For a start we need to clean the air in public buildings and schools, the cost of not doing this may be greater than doing it. CO2 monitors can show the quality of the air. People should be told not to go into public places when ill, in fact the UKHSA does say that, but how many people actually know they do.

    I also think that there should be greater public awareness of the risks that Covid still poses, it is being very much hidden and how would the majority of people know about the risks if people like me didn't post about them on sites like this. There is a definite narrative to blame things like lockdowns to deflect from a policy which infected and still infects large numbers of people. 

    We have the Prime Minister saying he doesn't think that there are more people sick now than before the pandemic, totally ignoring the elephant in the room that is Covid. The benefits bill is high, but when you wilfully allow millions of people to become sick, that is the result. Yes, there are other causes of illness, but is there seems to be little correlation between things like heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, brain problems and others, which are already well known as being caused by a Covid infection.

    He also wants to bring in 'trained' assessors to determine the fitness of people to work. We actually have trained people to do that, they're called doctors, not  somebody sitting at a computer screen with targets to meet. Again this is all done to deflect from a policy that increases sickness.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388245/uk-sick-leave-figures/
  • My wife and daughter got their jab at Boots Bluewater at the weekend, £97.50 each.

    A bit eye watering but the criteria for a free jab has reduced quite a bit and will be even smaller come the Autumn booster so it was not surprising to see quite a number of people from all age ranges paying out.

    By the way anyone living in Kent the only Boots offering the jab is Maidstone, Chatham and Bluewater.  If you pop into London the the nearest is Gallions Reach. 
    The cost is disgusting and will put off many people in a cost of living crisis. Health is a very low priority of this Government.
  • For a start we need to clean the air in public buildings and schools, the cost of not doing this may be greater than doing it. CO2 monitors can show the quality of the air. People should be told not to go into public places when ill, in fact the UKHSA does say that, but how many people actually know they do.

    I also think that there should be greater public awareness of the risks that Covid still poses, it is being very much hidden and how would the majority of people know about the risks if people like me didn't post about them on sites like this. There is a definite narrative to blame things like lockdowns to deflect from a policy which infected and still infects large numbers of people. 

    We have the Prime Minister saying he doesn't think that there are more people sick now than before the pandemic, totally ignoring the elephant in the room that is Covid. The benefits bill is high, but when you wilfully allow millions of people to become sick, that is the result. Yes, there are other causes of illness, but is there seems to be little correlation between things like heart attacks, strokes, diabetes, brain problems and others, which are already well known as being caused by a Covid infection.

    He also wants to bring in 'trained' assessors to determine the fitness of people to work. We actually have trained people to do that, they're called doctors, not  somebody sitting at a computer screen with targets to meet. Again this is all done to deflect from a policy that increases sickness.

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1388245/uk-sick-leave-figures/
    Clean air scrubbing is a great idea but to be universally effective is prohibitively costly and won’t happen any time soon. Telling people not to go out or to work when they don’t feel well is pointless. People do. The information re Covid is out there for those that are interested but on the whole people are not. The assessor scheme is just a Tory scheme to appease the nutters on their backbenches and hang em and flog em voters and won’t be implemented by the time they’re kicked out of office. That’s about where we are.
  • I disagree that the information is out there, more like a concerted campaign to keep any discussion of Covid away from the majority of people, who are only too willing to forget about Covid.

    We are all playing Covid roulette. Without clean air, the next infection could permanently disable you


    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/26/covid-roulette-clean-air-ventilation-long-covid?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2xuaU5LhkavrX8cyIzJ_ho2j3JE0afAk7Sn7H


  • @ME14addick genuine question, im not a denier and as stated earlier i had 3 jabs but wouldnt have anymore as last one was worse for side effects than actially having illness. Though im lucky i say that as a reasonably fit healthy 33 year old. Ive read most of your posts, so my question is in your ideal world, how should we all be living ? What would you like to see to help with the threat of covid ?
    Lyle James Alfred Taylor (born 29 March 1990)

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    Haha this is brilliant, to be honest one of the reasons i went private was this post and throught a conspiracy theorist would put two and two together and get five. Alsosorry but I am 34 now.
  • I've posted in the past about the huge costs to the economy of so much sickness much of which is Covid related. It's just like Climate change, the more the can is kicked down the road, the more costly it will be in the long run. 

    I'm sure there aren't many people aware that Bird Flu H5N1 virus is rife across the world and has jumped species devastating colonies of mammals such a sea lions, seals and dolphins, also cats, racoons and foxes. It is now widespread in cattle in the USA where people are being advised not to drink milk that has not been pasteurised. It has also infected people working with infected cattle. People in this country are living in blissful ignorance of what is going on.
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