Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
Love the optimism Swisdom however:
If I'm honest, I don't care how nice he is. What credentials has this man got to run Charlton Athletic and conveniently why does he suddenly want to? You don't just get asked by a mate if you fancy taking over a debt ridden football club with a 50m obligation to some prick in Belgium think, "oh go on then" when you are not a millionaire.. nor even close to one.
It sinks, we need him and the rest of them gone. You say we have no options when we do - PV and Barclay which I am fairly certain are our ONLY hope of any kind of future over the next 5 years. Everyone single one of these chancers needed to go yesterday, let alone over the next few weeks.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
I won’t give him the benefit of anything. What I want is clarity on ownership. Until we get some truth I consider him persona non grata. He’s got no serious money and is fronting something. We deserve and need to be told what is going on. Trust him as far as I could throw him.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
Love the optimism Swisdom however:
If I'm honest, I don't care how nice he is. What credentials has this man got to run Charlton Athletic and conveniently why does he suddenly want to? You don't just get asked by a mate if you fancy taking over a debt ridden football club with a 50m obligation to some prick in Belgium Belgium think oh go on then when, you are not a millionaire.. nor even close to one.
It sinks, we need him and the rest of them gone. You say we have no options when we do - PV and Barclay which I am fairly certain are our ONLY hope of any kind of future over the next 5 years. Everyone single one of these chances need to go yesterday, let alone over the next few weeks.
This 100%....its gonna be a nice little earner for someone.
The only thing I'm hanging onto is PV and Barclay getting involved but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it wouldn't be as investors with Elliott...? Is that right? They want the whole thing with everyone out out?
Also as my daughter reminded me where is that Jenkins fella in all this shite?
The latest statement confuses me even more. There is no reason for him to say the stuff about stability and investment, none at all. He could have just thanked LB and all of the staff for their efforts and left it at that, nobody would have expected anything else as everyone is thinking a flip is coming and he will be gone. What is there to gain by saying that if he doesnt intend on staying around ? that and LB saying he is supportive etc makes no bloody sense
There is a simple answer.
He can’t run off with the ST money if we don’t renew (because no LB/JJ/etc).
So, in summary, he is saying - everything will be alright, can you guys renew please.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
This is where I get totally confused.
1) would he pass the "fit and proper test"? Probably, his bankruptcy (if it was his) is discharged.
2) Has he got the money? Probably got a few more quid than most of us but no evidence what so ever that he has anywhere close to what the EFL would require evidence of.
What's the point of going through the motions that you describe if your not serious? What's the actual point? Buying time? Time for what? He doesn't own the club so he would have no access to any central payments, season ticket money, sell on clauses etc etc unless Nimer "gives" them to him.
Everything looks so black and white then you look deeper and it looks much less clear.
Most people don't just bullshit for bullshit sake. On the balance of probability I would conclude that not a word of that statement is true, but at the same time, I can't understand the reason for saying it.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
Respect your opinion but there's not a f****g chance in hell ESI are being given the benefit of the doubt from me.
Along with the Belgian pr**k, they have systematically destroyed this football club.
It's going to take a lot more than a smile in the morning to convince me
I will never again trust anyone, especially some chancer from up north who probably didn't know what Charlton Athletic was 6 months ago.
So he's payed a few bills. So what. Show us where the money came from and what the inevitable strings were attached to it?
The EFL still haven't approved these gangsters. That after well over 6 months. As far as I can see, our pants are STILL swinging around our ankles, with no sign yet of someone having the decency of pulling them up for us.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
I gave RD and Katie the benefit of the doubt, I was wrong. I gave Southall the benefit of the doubt, I was wrong. I’ll treat this lot with suspicion until I’m proved wrong again especially with farnell hanging around after his involvement elsewhere .
Just cos we’ve now got bigger twats doesn’t mean the arse licking of Roland was sensible , load of shit ... and guess how we ended up with these clowns it’s cos the twunt that is Roland believed their shit , twat that he is “better the devil you know” do fuck off with that shit , that cunt is still involved and complicit with the shithouse club we have become .
Can’t even be bothered to read it I’m afraid. The first thing I’ll read is the next thing Bowyer says or a statement from our next owner so long as it’s not another spiv. Until then, it’s all just hot air. Or maybe I’ll read the next season ticket brochure they send me......
I believe the embargo allows us to spend as long as it doesn't exceed last years budget /wage which during covid might be an advantage to us.
then why did Bowyer say he's not in a position to be able to offer contracts to any of the senior players?
I'm guessing Bowyer wasn't clear. It's not that we can't renew senior player contracts. It's possibly that we can't exceed the existing budget. As the senior players have the biggest contracts, we would likely have to offer the same or less, which effectively means the players won't sign again.
We’ve been relegated, I can’t see us offering more.
While it is fully understandable that no one trusts anyone at the moment,the fact is we have no alternatives.So before we slaughter Elliott,let us give it a little bit of time,there will be a turnover in playing staff very soon,see who comes and goes,judge at the outcome.
I Agree. Someone is putting money into the club to keep it going. Might not be PE but if not he is fronting for someone who is obviously funding wages etc. I do think there are things going on behind the scenes that may suprise us all
I don't think there are but, by Christ, I hope there are.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
I won’t give him the benefit of anything. What I want is clarity on ownership. Until we get some truth I consider him persona non grata. He’s got no serious money and is fronting something. We deserve and need to be told what is going on. Trust him as far as I could throw him.
Totally. We’ve been conned too many times now.
‘He’s a nice bloke’ ... ‘he stopped at my desk’ ... so bloody what ... it’s not a good mannered person we are after.
We need someone who can look after the LONG TERM support of this club. The money men are either hiding behind him, or he is there to help flip the club.
I give him no leeway ... nothing in the public domain as yet demonstrates he is the right person.
We have given the benefit of the doubt to the shysters, to Roland, to ESI1, and now ESI2 ... no more, we have been shat on too many times and are probably now closer to going out of existence than we have ever been.
He has produced no proof he has access to money, he has not given any concrete long term plans, and nothing in this entire approach explains why he would want to be involved, let alone demonstrate he has the required skills.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
You ask the EFL to sort their shit out but it’s up to him to provide the evidence to pass their tests. That he hasn’t done so in over six weeks suggests he can’t.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
The EFL tests are really easy to pass and yet you say it's up to the EFL to sort the shit it out.
These clowns have not passed the tests yet, does that not alarm you?
He talks about signing players, we are under an embargo because of they and their predecessors inability to pass the simple tests.
Nice bloke, counts for nowt, own a club and pass the tests is the entry point through the door, he has not done that yet.
Heard loads of people say how great Southall was (including all those who went to that forum meeting), counts for nowt.
You priase Roland I see, the clown who 'sold' to see these idiots and has no chance of being paid by them. Want a further list of his failings or are you back to sticking your fingers in your ears and thinking those moaning just don't get it
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
I know many genuine nice people, but none of them have £20M spare & nor does Elliot.
Radical thought - how about we give PE the benefit of the doubt for now. It's not as though we are swimming in options right now.
Everyone is slagging him off for not saying anything - it seems there is something going on that he cannot yet speak about. He gives a few tidbits and everyone is slagging him off.
Right now we need the EFL to sort their shit out - absolutely critical. And then we need to start looking at next season - the management, the squad etc. If someone doesn't want to be in League 1 then so be it - goodbye and thanks. But we don't have time to dwell.
I know several people who have met PE now and nobody had a bad word to say. I quote "he came in to the office and stopped at everyone's desk, spoke to them and asked how they were and what their role at the club is. He seems a genuine nice bloke." In comparison the same person said of Southall "He would march in, ignore everyone and demand a cup of tea".
I dare say I'll get grief from the usual suspects on here and get labelled an apologist once again (like when I said of Roland "it may be better the devil you know") but so be it. Sometimes there is so much misinformation spread it distorts peoples views of what is really happening.
I regard the statement as a step in the right direction but now is the time for actions and not just fluffy words
I'm as pessimistic as the next person after all the shite but I have to agree with the above and say give the bloke time. It seems he has had a meeting with LB. No resignation statement yet from LB. Why ? If he thought it was just a load of bollocks I'm sure he would have walked by now. Maybe PE is just fronting someone ? Question is who ? As I keep saying someone has put £1.5m in recently to keep admin at bay with from what I can see little chance on getting it back.
I haven’t seen anything to suggest he’s had a meeting with LB yet.
While it is fully understandable that no one trusts anyone at the moment,the fact is we have no alternatives.So before we slaughter Elliott,let us give it a little bit of time,there will be a turnover in playing staff very soon,see who comes and goes,judge at the outcome.
I Agree. Someone is putting money into the club to keep it going. Might not be PE but if not he is fronting for someone who is obviously funding wages etc. I do think there are things going on behind the scenes that may suprise us all
I’m sure things have been going on behind the scenes that will surprise us all, Lee Bowyer alluded to that, but I don’t think they will be pleasant surprises.
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If I'm honest, I don't care how nice he is.
What credentials has this man got to run Charlton Athletic and conveniently why does he suddenly want to? You don't just get asked by a mate if you fancy taking over a debt ridden football club with a 50m obligation to some prick in Belgium think, "oh go on then" when you are not a millionaire.. nor even close to one.
It sinks, we need him and the rest of them gone. You say we have no options when we do - PV and Barclay which I am fairly certain are our ONLY hope of any kind of future over the next 5 years.
Everyone single one of these chancers needed to go yesterday, let alone over the next few weeks.
The only thing I'm hanging onto is PV and Barclay getting involved but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it wouldn't be as investors with Elliott...? Is that right? They want the whole thing with everyone out out?
Also as my daughter reminded me where is that Jenkins fella in all this shite?
1) would he pass the "fit and proper test"? Probably, his bankruptcy (if it was his) is discharged.
2) Has he got the money? Probably got a few more quid than most of us but no evidence what so ever that he has anywhere close to what the EFL would require evidence of.
What's the point of going through the motions that you describe if your not serious? What's the actual point? Buying time? Time for what? He doesn't own the club so he would have no access to any central payments, season ticket money, sell on clauses etc etc unless Nimer "gives" them to him.
Everything looks so black and white then you look deeper and it looks much less clear.
Most people don't just bullshit for bullshit sake. On the balance of probability I would conclude that not a word of that statement is true, but at the same time, I can't understand the reason for saying it.
Mother Theresa could’ve put that statement out and I still wouldn’t believe a word of it.
Along with the Belgian pr**k, they have systematically destroyed this football club.
It's going to take a lot more than a smile in the morning to convince me
I will never again trust anyone, especially some chancer from up north who probably didn't know what Charlton Athletic was 6 months ago.
So he's payed a few bills. So what. Show us where the money came from and what the inevitable strings were attached to it?
The EFL still haven't approved these gangsters.
That after well over 6 months.
As far as I can see, our pants are STILL swinging around our ankles, with no sign yet of someone having the decency of pulling them up for us.
and guess how we ended up with these clowns it’s cos the twunt that is Roland believed their shit , twat that he is
“better the devil you know” do fuck off with that shit , that cunt is still involved and complicit with the shithouse club we have become .
All I would say to Mr Elliott is
SHOW ME THE MONEY
And for an atheist that's a hell of a wish.
‘He’s a nice bloke’ ... ‘he stopped at my desk’ ... so bloody what ... it’s not a good mannered person we are after.
We need someone who can look after the LONG TERM support of this club. The money men are either hiding behind him, or he is there to help flip the club.
I give him no leeway ... nothing in the public domain as yet demonstrates he is the right person.
We have given the benefit of the doubt to the shysters, to Roland, to ESI1, and now ESI2 ... no more, we have been shat on too many times and are probably now closer to going out of existence than we have ever been.
He has produced no proof he has access to money, he has not given any concrete long term plans, and nothing in this entire approach explains why he would want to be involved, let alone demonstrate he has the required skills.
So no, I will not give him time.
These clowns have not passed the tests yet, does that not alarm you?
He talks about signing players, we are under an embargo because of they and their predecessors inability to pass the simple tests.
Nice bloke, counts for nowt, own a club and pass the tests is the entry point through the door, he has not done that yet.
Heard loads of people say how great Southall was (including all those who went to that forum meeting), counts for nowt.
You priase Roland I see, the clown who 'sold' to see these idiots and has no chance of being paid by them. Want a further list of his failings or are you back to sticking your fingers in your ears and thinking those moaning just don't get it
thats not because of the EFL, it’s because this lot are liars and cheats
I think we all know which way the land lies on this...