I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
There will always be a couple of thousand that renew regardless, blind loyalty to the club as a whole and not taking owners, division, players, manager etc into account
I'm out after 20 years. Weathered the spivs and Duchatelet to support the team. With ESI/ESIv2/Valley & SL still with Duchatelet - all the unknowns about ownership/Bowyer - yes or no - "star" players off and then the Coronavirus situation then I'll wait and see how it all pans out. If and when we ever get to go back to the Valley then I'll probably pick a choose a few of the thrilling L1 opponents - but no S/T money from me. If the PV/AB (or another responsible person) takeover ever happens then I'll re-evaluate.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxiety about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
I probably will renew but not yet. Who knows when we will be allowed to attend? I don't see there is a need to buy now or anytime soon. Whoever the owners are, I like going to watch the team (however bad they are) but there needs to be some clarity on quite a few things first.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't think I'll renew. Besides the s*** show off the pitch, chances are we won't be allowed in the ground over winter. Maybe football will be cancelled again, and I don't really want the club holding over £300 'CAFC Cash' of mine when I need that money more. Might put in a request today for my leftover credit.
Then if we get owners I like, I can purchase one and I'm no worse off.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
Use a face shield then. Nobody wants your germs thanks.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
No i don't want to wear one, but that's the advice to keep others healthy. If you have breathing issues so bad that you can't wear a mask, youre probably better off staying home and not risking other people's health.. thats for another thread though.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
Use a face shield then. Nobody wants your germs thanks.
I went to Sainsbury's Orpington at about 7 45 this morning. Not a single Sainsbury worker was wearing one. Out of about 25 -30 customers I only saw one person wearing a mask.
which I got from this page, coincidentally the link is at the very bottom of the article, almost hidden in between an ad banner and the last video of the article:
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
No i don't want to wear one, but that's the advice to keep others healthy. If you have breathing issues so bad that you can't wear a mask, youre probably better off staying home and not risking other people's health.. thats for another thread though.
I can breathe perfectly well without one and, when free of arthritis, can walk 3 miles in 45 minutes.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
No i don't want to wear one, but that's the advice to keep others healthy. If you have breathing issues so bad that you can't wear a mask, youre probably better off staying home and not risking other people's health.. thats for another thread though.
I can breathe perfectly well without one and, when free of arthritis, can walk 3 miles in 45 minutes.
The muzzle causes the problem not my health.
Ah of course, you have to be different and the only person that has that issue, luckily medical professionals don't have that same issue or we'd all be fucked.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
Use a face shield then. Nobody wants your germs thanks.
I went to Sainsbury's Orpington at about 7 45 this morning. Not a single Sainsbury worker was wearing one. Out of about 25 -30 customers I only saw one person wearing a mask.
I'd genuinely be surprised if it's more than 1500.
Apart from ESI and relegation, I imagine there will be a number of older supporters unable/unwilling to go due to Covid social distancing reasons as well
That's where I am. Compulsory muzzles, no toilets and general hassle for something that's supposed to be a hobby holds little appeal regardless of anxity about lining the pockets of Southall, Nimer etc.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Zzzz still with that muzzle shite.
Fine if you want to wear one and, more importantly, can breathe wearing one.
I don't and can't.
No i don't want to wear one, but that's the advice to keep others healthy. If you have breathing issues so bad that you can't wear a mask, youre probably better off staying home and not risking other people's health.. thats for another thread though.
I can breathe perfectly well without one and, when free of arthritis, can walk 3 miles in 45 minutes.
The muzzle causes the problem not my health.
Ah of course, you have to be different and the only person that has that issue, luckily medical professionals don't have that same issue or we'd all be fucked.
Compulsory muzzle wearing is a political decision not a clinical one.
A few months ago Whitty, Harries et al were saying that muzzle wearing could increase the chances of catching COVID -19.
The about turn is a political face saving exercise as the politicians of all colours (look at Khan and London) have ballsed it up so much plus the added bonus of a bit of State authoritarianism of course.
I'll stop now because we are in danger of wandering into House of Commoners territory.
You believe in muzzles I don't. In a free country we are both entitled to our opinion.
You’ll get the run around, at least I have, kept getting emails saying I needed to give them my credit card details. Called them 4 different times with the details, still haven’t received it.
Ticket office shut on Thursdays, thats good timing.. tried calling to get my cash back. Thought they may have opened today for the rush of seaso ticket buyers before the new season in 2 months
They obviously planned to keep the 'Charlton cash' from the off in my opinion.
The impossibility of navigating the website to use it, the spiteful little administration charge.
@Bournemouth Addick is the man to tell us. Is it worth going direct to Trading Standards given the obstructive nature of the Club in returning this money?
I've still got £76 of CAFC cash that I was going to use on renewing when the current shit show was resolved.
I'm now going to ask for a refund, but there is no information on how to do that on the OS. Any ideas?
I would get in quick or you might end up getting a penny in the pound.
Personally I think you go two Bob Hope and ......
If you think that (and you may well be right), why are you buying a S/T today? Your money will be taken by the band of fraudsters or go to paying the administrator costs & creditors, as you have just said. I'm not having a pop I just don't understand the logic.
I've had a S/T every season since 1972. I won't be renewing unless things improve and look sensible to do so.
Atm our money looks most likely to be stolen by fraudsters. Second most likely to go in administration costs & to creditors.
Plus of course it is unlikely we would be allowed in the ground at the start of the season. If and when we are allowed, we'll probably be sitting 2 metres apart from anyone else.
If we get a decent owner I will almost certainly buy one straight away.
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Shit football is the least of our worries.
In fact I wouldn't put it beyond them to ban over 65s completely under the cloak of COVID-19 so they don't need to offer concessions. Finish off what Meire started.
Am I right in thinking that if you bought an ST now, and then we went into administration, you'd lose your money?
I don't and can't.
I'm now going to ask for a refund, but there is no information on how to do that on the OS. Any ideas?
Not a single Sainsbury worker was wearing one.
Out of about 25 -30 customers I only saw one person wearing a mask.
https://r1.dotmailer-surveys.com/fc4w9v47-074przae
which I got from this page, coincidentally the link is at the very bottom of the article, almost hidden in between an ad banner and the last video of the article:
https://www.cafc.co.uk/tickets/buy-season-tickets/how-to-use-cafc-cash-to-access-streaming-refunds-or-season-tickets
The muzzle causes the problem not my health.
Personally I think you go two Bob Hope and ......
A few months ago Whitty, Harries et al were saying that muzzle wearing could increase the chances of catching COVID -19.
The about turn is a political face saving exercise as the politicians of all colours (look at Khan and London) have ballsed it up so much plus the added bonus of a bit of State authoritarianism of course.
I'll stop now because we are in danger of wandering into House of Commoners territory.
You believe in muzzles I don't. In a free country we are both entitled to our opinion.
@Croydon as well - near the bottom here there's a link https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ee69d3279437/information-on-how-fans-can-access-money-they-are-owed-for-streaming-refunds-or-season-tickets?utm_campaign=593390_Copy of 2019/20 Season Ticket Holders - How to use your CAFC Cash v2 16.06.2020 12:00:19&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Charlton Athletic Football Club Ltd&dm_i=4W9V,CPV2,3F92VN,1FML1,1
That's from the email on 16/6, it's either very well hidden or had its links removed on the official site.
The impossibility of navigating the website to use it, the spiteful little administration charge.
@Bournemouth Addick is the man to tell us. Is it worth going direct to Trading Standards given the obstructive nature of the Club in returning this money?
Your money will be taken by the band of fraudsters or go to paying the administrator costs & creditors, as you have just said.
I'm not having a pop I just don't understand the logic.
I've had a S/T every season since 1972.
I won't be renewing unless things improve and look sensible to do so.
Atm our money looks most likely to be stolen by fraudsters.
Second most likely to go in administration costs & to creditors.
Plus of course it is unlikely we would be allowed in the ground at the start of the season.
If and when we are allowed, we'll probably be sitting 2 metres apart from anyone else.
If we get a decent owner I will almost certainly buy one straight away.