Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
I agree, its just really frustrating to be left 1 striker short of very good
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
It's RD and KM any anger should be directed towards. Although KR should probably learn to keep quiet at times.
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
Apologist Dissenter Blah blah ;-)
But I do agree. As I said before - if Karl know who he wants and what type of player he wants - but they aren't available - then why sign someone because "some blokes on the internet want more signings". I'd still wager our backups are as good as most other clubs in the division and our young players should certainly be an improvement.
If we signed someone now that hasn't been adequately scouted and recruited then we are no different to previous years in the Roland Regime.
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
If KR thinks the squad is good enough then why doesn't he just say that rather than trotting out excuses for not signing players (which he's been doing all summer, virtually every time he's been interviewed.
In my opinion, the first 11 is a massive improvement on last season. The squad does not have the strength in depth to sustain a challenge across the course of the season.
14/15 - unbeaten in the first 16(?) games. Season disintegrates from November onwards, the initially brilliant Vetokele has to play through injury as there's no back up and Bikey continues to play at the back despite a complete loss of form, again because there's no back up.
15/16 - superb victories over Hull and QPR at the start of the season. No strength in depth so season disintegrates again, despite panic buying the likes of Teixeira on a ridiculous contract in January.
17/18 - repeat.
I'm not having a go at him just for the sake of it. We need players in order to make this season a success but Robinson seems quite content to make excuses for Roland's lack of investment rather than sticking up for himself.
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
Apologist Dissenter Blah blah ;-)
But I do agree. As I said before - if Karl know who he wants and what type of player he wants - but they aren't available - then why sign someone because "some blokes on the internet want more signings". I'd still wager our backups are as good as most other clubs in the division and our young players should certainly be an improvement.
If we signed someone now that hasn't been adequately scouted and recruited then we are no different to previous years in the Roland Regime.
Not buying that fully to be honest.
Yes, I'd agree with you if we had lost a key player to a long term injury in the last week and we have been caught on the hop and now scrambling around.
But we knew we would have to bring in a striker for months (even before last season finished), and that realistically Vetokele and Watt weren't going to be part of our foundation of this season and that Novak wasn't exactly happy.
You have months to put together an umbrella of options into play (you have 3-4 plan A ones for a position, then half a dozen plan B, then a dozen or so Plan Cs). Should cover a mix of ambition and realism.
Having a list of targets that it turns out we can't actually sign is not exactly great planning imo, and not really different to 'some bloke on the internet' having a potential wish list.
I like what Robinson has done with the squad over the summer and unless there is an unnecessary sale today think it has been a positive window, but this will be a real nagging frustration if something isn't resolved today.
Anyway, that's really a post for tomorrow rather than now.
Spurs must have some U23 strikers going spare? Loft? Sterling? Harrison?
Not a rumour just thinking out loud
Was literally going through their U23 squad at the weekend (cuz I get up to some crazy stuff on weekends). Harrison isn't a bad shout. Also went through City and Chelsea and they have few forwards still at the club who seem old enough and mature enough to be anywhere near ready for this league. I've mentioned David Faupala before at City, looked good a couple years ago in the FA Cup. Went to Chesterfield second half of last season and did nothing, admittedly in a shit side.
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
Apologist Dissenter Blah blah ;-)
But I do agree. As I said before - if Karl know who he wants and what type of player he wants - but they aren't available - then why sign someone because "some blokes on the internet want more signings". I'd still wager our backups are as good as most other clubs in the division and our young players should certainly be an improvement.
If we signed someone now that hasn't been adequately scouted and recruited then we are no different to previous years in the Roland Regime.
AFKA has already said it, but if you haven't adequately scouted a list of possible strikers by the 31st August, especially knowing you'll be jogging three first team forwards on, then you need beating with a sack of doorknobs
Anyone making an "excuses bingo" card for when Robinson is wheeled out tonight to let us know why we failed to land a striker?
- Disgusted with the way certain clubs and individuals have conducted themselves - We had a couple where we had offers accepted but just couldn't get it over the line - The squad we've got is more than capable of competing if we don't suffer any unforeseen circumstances - We didn't feel it was worth bringing someone in who wasn't an improvement on what we've already got - We'll be in a good position to do business in the January transfer window - I'm just going to waffle at you constantly until you fall asleep or shoot yourself or forget what I'm actually talking about - I can't criticise the backing I've had from the president and CEO, but it's difficult trying to do business at the end of the transfer window
Fully expecting to be suitably infuriated by whatever bullshit he decides to regurgitate on behalf of his paymasters.
I think we should give KR some credit here. He has assembled a decent squad so far. A massive improvement on last season.
Apologist Dissenter Blah blah ;-)
But I do agree. As I said before - if Karl know who he wants and what type of player he wants - but they aren't available - then why sign someone because "some blokes on the internet want more signings". I'd still wager our backups are as good as most other clubs in the division and our young players should certainly be an improvement.
If we signed someone now that hasn't been adequately scouted and recruited then we are no different to previous years in the Roland Regime.
All fair points but that is the problem with Robinson constantly talking about deals and signings and who and how many he wants.
He builds the expectation and optimism when he doesn't have the final say.
Unsurprisingly other clubs don't have to sell to Charlton or agree with the fees we offer even if Karl sees that as other clubs "disrespecting" Charlton (or MK Dons when he first said it). And of course as at any club there is a budget at Charlton.
Robinson has done well so far this summer, got a lot of his targets, shifted a lot of players he didn't want, not sold any kids yet and the team is doing well and looks like having a good season on the evidence of few games played so far.
If only he'd learn to shut up and let the results do the talking for him once in while.
Looking at our squad now, we obviously need a striker. Possibly short on the wing because of the injury to Marshall. Not defending the club because you always need a Plan B, C, etc but they were clearly putting their eggs firmly into the basket of Mavididi. Would have completed the squad nicely but as I said, should have had other options as he joined Preston over 3 weeks ago.
Looking at our squad now, we obviously need a striker. Possibly short on the wing because of the injury to Marshall. Not defending the club because you always need a Plan B, C, etc but they were clearly putting their eggs firmly into the basket of Mavididi. Would have completed the squad nicely but as I said, should have had other options as he joined Preston over 3 weeks ago.
Think that other option was the unrealistic signing of Will Grigg
What the club need to ask themselves is would they sell Josh Magennis or Ricky Holmes to Wigan this summer, the answer would clearly be no because under no certain terms would you want to risk selling to a rival
Whinge-athon in here. Club has done good business this summer. The team is setup so the attacking midfielders are the key, and we've signed 3 of them and kept the key 1 we had. Yes another striker would have been good for sure, but if we can't get one then tough shit.
The same people whingeing about not signing more players are the same people who complain when we sell a youth product to balance the books, and the same people who complain that no investment has come from Roland after he has sunk in a ton of cash already (yep, no way he's getting those loans back), and the same people who will later complain that we have not been run financially sensibly. We did some deals in advance of deadline day. There is no rule that says we have to do business on the last day.
I'm kinda thinking that there must still be a slight chance of something happening because the OS hasn't told us otherwise. They have done in the last two Windows havnt they ?
I'm kinda thinking that there must still be a slight chance of something happening because the OS hasn't told us otherwise. They have done in the last two Windows havnt they ?
I imagine they'll keep trying to sign someone... the problem at this late stage is other than signing a Premier League youngster there will zero chance of getting someone like Grigg | Akinde | Godden (which I guess is as per Cawley's tweet this morning).
i.e. Every other club are only selling depending on what happens with their own chances i.e.
Tottenham will get Llorente provided that Swansea are able to get Bony from Man City Man City will only get Sanchez if its a cash plus player deal or whether Arsenal can get Draxler or Lemar etc.
The further down the Leagues you go the harder it gets and can imagine Wigan | Barnet | Stevenage all refusing to release their Strikers now because they wont be able to find someone else themselves as the risk is greater
'Hard work this negotiation business, especially when you get laughed at down the phone. So we're calling it a day and heading off down the pub. There's always January'.
League Two clubs Barnet and Yeovil are waiting in the wings to take Charlton goalkeeper Dillon Phillips on a season-long loan, News Shopper understands.
Phillips, 22, is in desperate need of regular first-team football after playing second fiddle to Declan Rudd last season.
And Phillips’ game-time will be limited once again with the arrival of Ben Amos, who joined on loan from Bolton for the 2017/18 campaign.
Addicks boss Karl Robinson wants the highly-rated stopper to make a temporary move away from the Valley to gain some valuable minutes.
However, the Liverpudlian has insisted Phillips will not be loaned out if Charlton fail to bring in another goalkeeper to rival Amos.
Former MK Dons stalwart David Martin was training with the Addicks over the summer, but a deal never materialised, and he has since left the club.
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And at the moment, it looks as though Phillips will be Amos’ understudy this season.
But if the Addicks do sign a goalkeeper before the transfer window closes on Thursday night, then Yeovil and Barnet will try to take Phillips on loan.
Yeovil have conceded 14 goals in their opening four league games, while Barnet have endured a poor start to the season.
Phillips impressed in a previous loan spell with Cheltenham in the 2015/16 campaign, helping the Essex-based club win the National League.
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Not a rumour just thinking out loud
Where's Andy Delort's dad when you need him?
Dissenter
Blah blah ;-)
But I do agree. As I said before - if Karl know who he wants and what type of player he wants - but they aren't available - then why sign someone because "some blokes on the internet want more signings". I'd still wager our backups are as good as most other clubs in the division and our young players should certainly be an improvement.
If we signed someone now that hasn't been adequately scouted and recruited then we are no different to previous years in the Roland Regime.
In my opinion, the first 11 is a massive improvement on last season. The squad does not have the strength in depth to sustain a challenge across the course of the season.
14/15 - unbeaten in the first 16(?) games. Season disintegrates from November onwards, the initially brilliant Vetokele has to play through injury as there's no back up and Bikey continues to play at the back despite a complete loss of form, again because there's no back up.
15/16 - superb victories over Hull and QPR at the start of the season. No strength in depth so season disintegrates again, despite panic buying the likes of Teixeira on a ridiculous contract in January.
17/18 - repeat.
I'm not having a go at him just for the sake of it. We need players in order to make this season a success but Robinson seems quite content to make excuses for Roland's lack of investment rather than sticking up for himself.
Yes, I'd agree with you if we had lost a key player to a long term injury in the last week and we have been caught on the hop and now scrambling around.
But we knew we would have to bring in a striker for months (even before last season finished), and that realistically Vetokele and Watt weren't going to be part of our foundation of this season and that Novak wasn't exactly happy.
You have months to put together an umbrella of options into play (you have 3-4 plan A ones for a position, then half a dozen plan B, then a dozen or so Plan Cs). Should cover a mix of ambition and realism.
Having a list of targets that it turns out we can't actually sign is not exactly great planning imo, and not really different to 'some bloke on the internet' having a potential wish list.
I like what Robinson has done with the squad over the summer and unless there is an unnecessary sale today think it has been a positive window, but this will be a real nagging frustration if something isn't resolved today.
Anyway, that's really a post for tomorrow rather than now.
He builds the expectation and optimism when he doesn't have the final say.
Unsurprisingly other clubs don't have to sell to Charlton or agree with the fees we offer even if Karl sees that as other clubs "disrespecting" Charlton (or MK Dons when he first said it). And of course as at any club there is a budget at Charlton.
Robinson has done well so far this summer, got a lot of his targets, shifted a lot of players he didn't want, not sold any kids yet and the team is doing well and looks like having a good season on the evidence of few games played so far.
If only he'd learn to shut up and let the results do the talking for him once in while.
What the club need to ask themselves is would they sell Josh Magennis or Ricky Holmes to Wigan this summer, the answer would clearly be no because under no certain terms would you want to risk selling to a rival
Yes another striker would have been good for sure, but if we can't get one then tough shit.
The same people whingeing about not signing more players are the same people who complain when we sell a youth product to balance the books, and the same people who complain that no investment has come from Roland after he has sunk in a ton of cash already (yep, no way he's getting those loans back), and the same people who will later complain that we have not been run financially sensibly.
We did some deals in advance of deadline day. There is no rule that says we have to do business on the last day.
i.e. Every other club are only selling depending on what happens with their own chances i.e.
Tottenham will get Llorente provided that Swansea are able to get Bony from Man City
Man City will only get Sanchez if its a cash plus player deal or whether Arsenal can get Draxler or Lemar etc.
The further down the Leagues you go the harder it gets and can imagine Wigan | Barnet | Stevenage all refusing to release their Strikers now because they wont be able to find someone else themselves as the risk is greater
'Hard work this negotiation business, especially when you get laughed at down the phone.
So we're calling it a day and heading off down the pub.
There's always January'.
CAFC SMT
a real rumour!
Phillips, 22, is in desperate need of regular first-team football after playing second fiddle to Declan Rudd last season.
And Phillips’ game-time will be limited once again with the arrival of Ben Amos, who joined on loan from Bolton for the 2017/18 campaign.
Addicks boss Karl Robinson wants the highly-rated stopper to make a temporary move away from the Valley to gain some valuable minutes.
However, the Liverpudlian has insisted Phillips will not be loaned out if Charlton fail to bring in another goalkeeper to rival Amos.
Former MK Dons stalwart David Martin was training with the Addicks over the summer, but a deal never materialised, and he has since left the club.
MORE: Lapslie dreams of becoming Charlton captain
And at the moment, it looks as though Phillips will be Amos’ understudy this season.
But if the Addicks do sign a goalkeeper before the transfer window closes on Thursday night, then Yeovil and Barnet will try to take Phillips on loan.
Yeovil have conceded 14 goals in their opening four league games, while Barnet have endured a poor start to the season.
Phillips impressed in a previous loan spell with Cheltenham in the 2015/16 campaign, helping the Essex-based club win the National League.