All incomings have been ok Karl's wish list. He is calling the shots.
I think some of the criticism of this comment has been unfair. I do believe every signing made has been a player Robinson wanted, there just hasn't been enough of them!
So just the first sentence is correct then. That last one is not.
Well he is calling the shots regarding players we sign, but not budget
still got an unsuitable manager though, in my opinion of course.
Gobby now being reported in the local Bristol rag as having talked to Chris Lines about our players salaries. If he tells all and sundry about our players inflated pay he should not be too surprised when potential recruits hold out for more and delay deals as a result. At least we now know what Gobby is doing when he is on the phone 3 hours a day.
A bit of perspective, perhaps?
"You look at Charlton, I know their manager Karl Robinson and when I was speaking to him last season he told me the type of wages some of his players were earning," said Lines.
Although not a couple of weeks ago when we played Rovers, then - but last season.
Don't forget also, Rovers were in League One straight after 2 consecutive promotions in 2 seasons from non-League. Their pay structure would be way below a team like Charlton, just relegated from the Championship with several players on Championship contracts.
Robinson was most probably bemoaning that he couldn't make new signings unless he moved higher earners on - players like Tex - but of course players in contract must stay with the club unless a buyer is found or the their contract is paid up.
There'll be a few still on the books, but we've already unloaded some of last season's high earners and others are out on long term loan.
Please keep your apologist views out of here ;-) we'd much rather a negative narrative
In the space of a fortnight we've gone from "we're gonna win the league" to "we're doomed!"
Anyway I don't think Tarpey was ever an option - with the spotlight on this signing as it currently stands there's not a hope in hell we'd go for a non league player.....would we?
The pond that we're fishing in for strikers is very shallow and even now, I don't think we're using the right bait. Not expecting us to land anyone by the close of the window.
Our visitors tomorrow just made another good loan signing in last couple of hours-:
Northampton Town have signed Swansea City midfielder Matt Grimes on loan until the end of the 2017-18 season.
Grimes, 22, made 12 appearances on loan at Leeds last season, having joined Swansea in 2015 for £1.75m from Exeter.
This is the former England Under-21 international's third loan spell, following a stint at Blackburn in 2016.
"As well as being a central midfielder, he can also play in the number 10 role and he possesses a quality left foot," Cobblers manager Justin Edinburgh said.
"He is only a young man, but has a good amount of experience and after impressing at Exeter he has played in the Premier League and the Championship."
That's annoying. I mean we're not short of left-footed central players but Matty Grimes is a proper player. Not dissimilar to JFC, lovely left peg, doesn't provide the goal threat JFC will (hopefully) provide but he's good in possession and has a great range of passing.
Surprised he's had to drop to League One. Swansea have kept hold of him despite the fact that he must be 22-3 now, so they must still see something in him. But going on his England youth displays I thought he'd at least be Championship level.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Ajose is also on big wages. Only one person to blame for that.
You really are an angry birdie!
In every other club in the land, strikers will be on the most wages. When we signed him, Ajose had just had his best ever season and scored a hatful of goals. You can be sure he didn't come to us because we are the mighty Charlton, he came because we offered him more money than he was on at Swindon, that's all players are interested in these days.
Most fans were excited when we signed him thinking we had signed a striker to score plenty of goals for us, did anyone care how much we had to pay to get him, no of course not!
Still don't let that get in the way of you blaming the management will you.
Like I keep saying, Ajose was shite before Swindon and shite since, and now can't even get into Bury's team!
Apologists out in force today. Is there any other League One club that would pay him over £5k a week? And if he was 'shite before Swindon' then you've got to question the extent of our scouting and salary offered haven't you?
Just because I question Katrien Meire rather than believe everything she says, doesn't make me an 'angry birdie'.
Just as well there are a few 'apologists' to give a balanced view on here!
I'd be pretty certain that there are a number of clubs in this division paying over £5k for their strikers.
We took a chance with Ajose, hoping he would score goals for us, it has failed miserably, that's football I'm afraid! I certainly wasn't a fan that was overly excited by his signing, but plenty were!
You weren't questioning KM, you were blaming her!
Yeah, you're right, I do blame her. She's the CEO. If we've got players who aren't good enough on long-term contracts and big money that the club admit aren't good enough and they now can't afford, who else would you blame?
Had Ajose turned out to be the best thing since sliced bread and was scoring for fun, would you have turned around and said well done to KM for signing him, I doubt it!
We are all living in hope that we can at least sign another striker and keeper before the end of the window, but we have done some good business so far, Reeves, Marshall, Clark, Fosu, kept Holmes and Pearce with improved contracts. I'm sure KM has played her part in making this happen, but no one is going to congratulate her are they!
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
Well, here is a possibility, but a bit of a flyer...
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
Well, here is a possibility, but a bit of a flyer...
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
Well, here is a possibility, but a bit of a flyer...
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
Rumour reported in the SLP that Novak wants to leave CAFC before the end of the transfer window.
Worrying if true!
Good. He's been stealing £6k a week from us over the last year. Worst senior player at the club. Let him go, bring in a quality striker to rival Magennis and have KAG and Hanlan as our back up players.
I totally take your point, but I'd rather have him available as an experienced back-up (along with a new signing) than have two as-yet-unknown players as back up to Josh. Most likely, the players we get in will be last-minute loans. I've always felt with Novak that if he had got his confidence back, he could've been decent for us.
Well, here is a possibility, but a bit of a flyer...
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
A northener so most likely to stay up north and they often don't seem to settle at Charlton (Lee Novak).
Said all summer I'd clear out the entire strike force and only keep Magennis, Hanlan and Umerah.
That said we no doubt need a replacement for Novak good enough to challenge Magennis for his place in the team.
It'll be difficult to find another Magennis though, we did well to sign him about this time last year, how often do those type of bargains come round?
Not sure we need 2 strikers 1 will be hard enough to get while Clarke can play there too. Hadn't seen Hackett-Fairchild before but he looks a good prospect too.
Well, here is a possibility, but a bit of a flyer...
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
Rumour has it that KM has been watching this player for sometime and we expect to sign Geoff Hurst from World Cup winners West Ham very soon.
If Robinson has known for a while about Novak being homesick then you'd think they would at least have been talking seriously to one or two strikers. Hopefully Taylor will be allowed out on loan now they've signed the Fulham lad but we'd still need another big bloke if Novak goes.
If Robinson has known for a while about Novak being homesick then you'd think they would at least have been talking seriously to one or two strikers. Hopefully Taylor will be allowed out on loan now they've signed the Fulham lad but we'd still need another big bloke if Novak goes.
Novak did not know he was home sick until he heard we were after a striker 'better than we have got already'.
If Robinson has known for a while about Novak being homesick then you'd think they would at least have been talking seriously to one or two strikers. Hopefully Taylor will be allowed out on loan now they've signed the Fulham lad but we'd still need another big bloke if Novak goes.
Especially with Josh wanting a new contract or threating to leave, then potentially we could have had no recognised forwards!
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In the space of a fortnight we've gone from "we're gonna win the league" to "we're doomed!"
Anyway I don't think Tarpey was ever an option - with the spotlight on this signing as it currently stands there's not a hope in hell we'd go for a non league player.....would we?
Nice try Tom. Goodbye.
Worrying if true!
Surprised he's had to drop to League One. Swansea have kept hold of him despite the fact that he must be 22-3 now, so they must still see something in him. But going on his England youth displays I thought he'd at least be Championship level.
You caused a massive row on Wednesday.
George Hirst.
Only 18 years old but has already scored 12 in 22 games for the English national youth team. Stands 1.91m tall and has a reputation as one of the best young talents in England.
Sheffield Wed are open to a L1 club getting him on loan. They said as much yesterday. Wednesday just turned down a million pound offer from Leicester for a transfer and would rather loan him out.
Said all summer I'd clear out the entire strike force and only keep Magennis, Hanlan and Umerah.
That said we no doubt need a replacement for Novak good enough to challenge Magennis for his place in the team.
It'll be difficult to find another Magennis though, we did well to sign him about this time last year, how often do those type of bargains come round?
Not sure we need 2 strikers 1 will be hard enough to get while Clarke can play there too. Hadn't seen Hackett-Fairchild before but he looks a good prospect too.
We need strikers.
Whatever happened to Gary Goals?
Edited : next Wednesday this may happen!