Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Should you really be being spoon fed at your age??
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
Only it's not the same old MO is it. That involved network players and unsuitable managers. There's no point in saying it hasn't changed at all when it has, even if further changes are needed.
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
And why has Vetoleke struggled with injuries? It's because this regime's medical stuff rushed him back onto the field when he wasn't ready. They ruined a decent Championship forward.
Ajose might be 'shit', but who signed him? Not Slade. Katrien? Katrien's scout?
Who employs these people? Roland.
Apologist to the extreme. So ridiculous that it's laughable.
Did I say I'm happy with it? NO so drop this apologist bullshit.
igor has had 2 years to get fit and hasn't managed it. He pulled his groin didn't he? There's clearly some other underlying issue(s) that may or may not have been exacerbated by us but wasn't our medical team the same as before RD's arrival? (Genuine question)
It's irrelevant who signed Ajose - he's never been right for us (I said it I'm the first time I saw him in a pre season against Bromley). He was however widely lauded as a great signing for us at the time so the club did what it thought was right and not many disagreed.
Since these signings we have started to do things differently so there is evidence of progress but this striker situation is hugely shit - that we all agree on. We've done what we always do and left it to the last minute and will end up paying over the odds or being light up top and this isn't good enough if we have genuine promotion ambitions - which I believe we have. Still time to go but not signing anyone will undo much of the good work done so far. And it has been good so far.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Not irrelevant who signed Ajose and they should've scouted him and knew how he would fit into our team. They didn't because they just picked him out from a top scorers list before we even had a manager.
I'll drop the apologist bullshit when you stop apologising for Katrien and Roland's obvious incompetence.
All incomings have been ok Karl's wish list. He is calling the shots.
I think some of the criticism of this comment has been unfair. I do believe every signing made has been a player Robinson wanted, there just hasn't been enough of them!
So just the first sentence is correct then. That last one is not.
Well he is calling the shots regarding players we sign, but not budget
still got an unsuitable manager though, in my opinion of course.
Gobby now being reported in the local Bristol rag as having talked to Chris Lines about our players salaries. If he tells all and sundry about our players inflated pay he should not be too surprised when potential recruits hold out for more and delay deals as a result. At least we now know what Gobby is doing when he is on the phone 3 hours a day.
All incomings have been ok Karl's wish list. He is calling the shots.
I think some of the criticism of this comment has been unfair. I do believe every signing made has been a player Robinson wanted, there just hasn't been enough of them!
So just the first sentence is correct then. That last one is not.
Well he is calling the shots regarding players we sign, but not budget
still got an unsuitable manager though, in my opinion of course.
Gobby now being reported in the local Bristol rag as having talked to Chris Lines about our players salaries. If he tells all and sundry about our players inflated pay he should not be too surprised when potential recruits hold out for more and delay deals as a result. At least we now know what Gobby is doing when he is on the phone 3 hours a day.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Ermm. Had 'we' sorted our shit out? Aren't you talking about the incompetents 'running' the club - Duchatelet & Meire ? Why not just concede that D&M have fecked up as per standard.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Ajose is also on big wages. Only one person to blame for that.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Yes they do. All clubs makes mistakes and waste money on signings that don't work.
However, with successful sides this happens less than it does at unsuccessful sides.
Under this regime it has happened constantly and at rate and cost that is staggering.
Ajose wasn't a one-off. It was the norm.
That we even ask "Who signed Ajose?" is an indictment of how badly the club was being run last summer with no manager, no plan for the summer, no return date for the players, no off-season fitness programme, head scout appointed before the manager and then sacked a few months later, 2nd choice manager appointed and then sacked a few months later.
Yes, we know have what passes for "stability" in that we have the same manager at the end of the old and beginning of the new season but all those mistakes haven't gone away. They and their consequences are still with us as we have to give away players to get them off the wage bill and reduce costs to stay in budget or as with Ajose loan him out to a rival while still paying a big chunk of his wages.
Move on, learnt from their mistakes, new season blah blah blah. The mistakes haven't been learnt from because as you were told by KM she didn't make any mistakes, it's always someone else's fault, never hers, nothing to do with her, she just appointed the scouts and managers, gave them the budgets, made the deals, sacked the managers and scouts but it's not her fault, can't blame her, she was only doing her job.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Agreed, although the argument is that they in many people's eyes they seeeeeeem to have learned something since then. The old Meire/Driesen signing system looks to be dead and buried, from the 'network' days to the Ajose signing.
Something has changed. I have no idea who or what is behind the change, but if it means we're beginning to move in the right direction it would be churlish not to acknowledge that.
It doesn't mean that what went on in the past should be forgotten, far from it. But trying to build up a head of steam to launch more protests on the grounds of something that happened in the past would be de very difficult.
'Spend more money on a striker!' doesn't really do it as a chant, much as I wish they would.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Fans being excited doesn't justify it. Fans get excited about the majority of signings, especially if the player scored regularly in the previous season.
Ajose would have soon been forgotten about had we signed an alternative that fitted our style of play and scored goals.
Same with the appointment of Head. Fans look for the positives. Doesn't mean bringing in a scout that a new manager might not want to work with is a good idea.
They need to make the right decisions, even if fans won't initially be impressed.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Who hired the person who made the decision to hire Steve Head??? And who hired them???
With all this delving into the past, this could end up like an episode if "Who so you think you are?".
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Yes they do. All clubs makes mistakes and waste money on signings that don't work.
However, with successful sides this happens less than it does at unsuccessful sides.
Under this regime it has happened constantly and at rate and cost that is staggering.
Ajose wasn't a one-off. It was the norm.
That we even ask "Who signed Ajose?" is an indictment of how badly the club was being run last summer with no manager, no plan for the summer, no return date for the players, no off-season fitness programme, head scout appointed before the manager and then sacked a few months later, 2nd choice manager appointed and then sacked a few months later.
Yes, we know have what passes for "stability" in that we have the same manager at the end of the old and beginning of the new season but all those mistakes haven't gone away. They and their consequences are still with us as we have to give away players to get them off the wage bill and reduce costs to stay in budget or as with Ajose loan him out to a rival while still paying a big chunk of his wages.
Move on, learnt from their mistakes, new season blah blah blah. The mistakes haven't been learnt from because as you were told by KM she didn't make any mistakes, it's always someone else's fault, never hers, nothing to do with her, she just appointed the scouts and managers, gave them the budgets, made the deals, sacked the managers and scouts but it's not her fault, can't blame her, she was only doing her job.
This is why I've given up my season ticket after 17 years. I paid for my first one with my pocket money earned from doing the milkround aged 14 ans never looked back. Yet this isn't the club I support. I think most football fans can accept mistakes if they know that the hierarchy were 'doing their best' or at least had the club's best interests at head. Yet we almost categorically know, through Meire's comments to third parties, that this isn't the case. It's a business model (that hasn't worked) with very little regard for the fans/customers. The word 'club' doesn't seem to apply to Charlton anymore, it's more The Charlton Athletic Organisation than CAFC. This doesn't feel like my club. So I don't go unless it's an away game. I don't knock anyone for still have a ST, that's up to them. But I don't want to pay to watch protests and I don't want to pay to essentially fund the development of another saleable asset.
The saddest thing is that my 3 mates and My Dad have gone together for years. It was a regular meet up in the the calendar. Through noone's fault but our own, life has gotten in the way and my mates and I have now only seen each other twice since Xmas. My Dad, 3 times at family events. We've naturally grown apart and it has become 'easier' not to go. Sad times.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Who hired the person who made the decision to hire Steve Head??? And who hired them???
This could end up like an episode if "Who so you think you are?".
I still think Ajose could have been more of a success if we played system that suited him. It's the common issue with players being bought by a DoF or Head Scout type system, it relies on the club having a settled playing system, with players bought for that system.
KR has gradually built up a team set up to play 4-2-3-1. If we sacked him and brought in another coach who played 4-2-3-1, the change should be relatively easy, whereas if the next guy wanted 3-4-3 or 4-4-2, the current squad wouldn't work as successfully
Katrien wanted Watt out. "Why should we keep giving him chances when he hasn't showed up for two years - the problem is nobody wants to buy him"
Safe to say when we said "we had plenty of interest in him but the offer had to be right for us" it meant we wanted to sell him not loan him again.
Ajose is, was and will continue to be shit. Vetojele is currently and constantly is injured.
Yes we are light on strikers but we are no weaker than we've been for ages.
Should you really be being spoon fed at your age??
We've given Katrien chances for 3 and a half years...she hasn't shown up and no one else wants her either! Can she go and join Tony Watt??
Any mention of a fee? We did SELL him, didn't we? Will it cover the wages of the other strikers we are paying who don't actually play for US any more??
Others have already pointed out the flaw in your "Slide" (sic) wanted him assertion.
"No weaker than we've been..." is, in absolutely no way, any confirmation that they have learned from their mistakes.
It's a confirmation that we'll plod along with the same modus operandi...the one that has dropped us further and further into the shit since these incompetents got their hands on our club!!
Only it's not the same old MO is it. That involved network players and unsuitable managers. There's no point in saying it hasn't changed at all when it has, even if further changes are needed.
IMO it is still the same old. It just is in a different guise. Smoke screen basically.
We are told Karl has 100% control of playing matters by RD & KM yet KM wanted Watt gone & so it happens, I assume Swisdom got this from the horses mouth or he wouldn't have publicly stated it.
There is a difference from saying you have learned from your mistakes and actually doing so. The clue that this is the case comes when you get the explanation of the mistake - it is essential to understand what the mistake is to learn from it I would say. When we get their interpretation of the mistake, we don't get anything about squad balance which most of us that understand football would put it down to, but not employing an English manager or player which is nonsense.
Yes, having a manager or even a player who understands the league is useful, but Riga wasn't a mistake! What this distortion in terms of interpreting the mistake actually tries to do in my opinion, is blame the managers. I am not saying that Peeters or Luzon were the best managers in our history, but they were not idiots and would have done better with better backing and balanced squads - and Peeters at least has said as much.
In view of recent comments from KR, can we have a new poll; wiith the current squad do you think we will finish a) top two, b) top six, or c) neither.
C all day from me and new manager by January. Which is disappointing because I believe that Meire and Duchatalet appreciate the financial benefits of being in tier two rather than three but won't invest to get there.
The rumour element? There will be no additions this window.
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Ajose is also on big wages. Only one person to blame for that.
You really are an angry birdie!
In every other club in the land, strikers will be on the most wages. When we signed him, Ajose had just had his best ever season and scored a hatful of goals. You can be sure he didn't come to us because we are the mighty Charlton, he came because we offered him more money than he was on at Swindon, that's all players are interested in these days.
Most fans were excited when we signed him thinking we had signed a striker to score plenty of goals for us, did anyone care how much we had to pay to get him, no of course not!
Still don't let that get in the way of you blaming the management will you.
Like I keep saying, Ajose was shite before Swindon and shite since, and now can't even get into Bury's team!
You say it's irrelevant who signed Ajose? Sorry you are wrong. A player was signed without consultation with a new head coach. 800k on a player who did not fit into both Slade's and Robinson systems and this is still having an impact on Robinson as he can't spend that money on getting the forward he wants. Whose fault? Meire is to blame as she is CEO who made the decision to buy him on the recommendation of Steve Head ( Where is he now....Oh yeah another Meire apppointment).
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
Ajose was available at the time so they got him based upon stats presumably. Yes - risky. But we as fans were largely excited at the time
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now. I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Who made the decision to hire Steve Head before getting a head coach then getting rid of him months later?
Ajose is also on big wages. Only one person to blame for that.
You really are an angry birdie!
In every other club in the land, strikers will be on the most wages. When we signed him, Ajose had just had his best ever season and scored a hatful of goals. You can be sure he didn't come to us because we are the mighty Charlton, he came because we offered him more money than he was on at Swindon, that's all players are interested in these days.
Most fans were excited when we signed him thinking we had signed a striker to score plenty of goals for us, did anyone care how much we had to pay to get him, no of course not!
Still don't let that get in the way of you blaming the management will you.
Like I keep saying, Ajose was shite before Swindon and shite since, and now can't even get into Bury's team!
That would imply that he had more than one amazing season. Which he hadn't. He was a classic stats signing, based on that one season.
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That involved network players and unsuitable managers.
There's no point in saying it hasn't changed at all when it has, even if further changes are needed.
igor has had 2 years to get fit and hasn't managed it. He pulled his groin didn't he? There's clearly some other underlying issue(s) that may or may not have been exacerbated by us but wasn't our medical team the same as before RD's arrival? (Genuine question)
It's irrelevant who signed Ajose - he's never been right for us (I said it I'm the first time I saw him in a pre season against Bromley). He was however widely lauded as a great signing for us at the time so the club did what it thought was right and not many disagreed.
Since these signings we have started to do things differently so there is evidence of progress but this striker situation is hugely shit - that we all agree on. We've done what we always do and left it to the last minute and will end up paying over the odds or being light up top and this isn't good enough if we have genuine promotion ambitions - which I believe we have.
Still time to go but not signing anyone will undo much of the good work done so far. And it has been good so far.
It's not irrelevant who signs players that is the point and why mistakes are made with so many players under this regime that is still impacting on the club 3 years on
I'll drop the apologist bullshit when you stop apologising for Katrien and Roland's obvious incompetence.
That refers to KR speaking to Lines last season when we still had Tex, Sarr and Kashi on big money.
If we hadn't fans would criticise saying " another one we missed out on"
Steve Head had held many prestigious jobs so the club hired him (again fans were positive) and listened to him ( no point hiring him and ignoring him) - it didn't work out for either. It still impacts us. These things happen in football. The knock-on is we need at least one striker now.
I expect there's a bit of mind games from KR and he has a little more to spend but clubs know we are desperate so are bumping up the prices. Again this would have been averted had we sorted our shit out earlier. As ever.
Actually, a suit might not be a bad idea.
Boom boom.
Yes they do. All clubs makes mistakes and waste money on signings that don't work.
However, with successful sides this happens less than it does at unsuccessful sides.
Under this regime it has happened constantly and at rate and cost that is staggering.
Ajose wasn't a one-off. It was the norm.
That we even ask "Who signed Ajose?" is an indictment of how badly the club was being run last summer with no manager, no plan for the summer, no return date for the players, no off-season fitness programme, head scout appointed before the manager and then sacked a few months later, 2nd choice manager appointed and then sacked a few months later.
Yes, we know have what passes for "stability" in that we have the same manager at the end of the old and beginning of the new season but all those mistakes haven't gone away. They and their consequences are still with us as we have to give away players to get them off the wage bill and reduce costs to stay in budget or as with Ajose loan him out to a rival while still paying a big chunk of his wages.
Move on, learnt from their mistakes, new season blah blah blah. The mistakes haven't been learnt from because as you were told by KM she didn't make any mistakes, it's always someone else's fault, never hers, nothing to do with her, she just appointed the scouts and managers, gave them the budgets, made the deals, sacked the managers and scouts but it's not her fault, can't blame her, she was only doing her job.
Something has changed. I have no idea who or what is behind the change, but if it means we're beginning to move in the right direction it would be churlish not to acknowledge that.
It doesn't mean that what went on in the past should be forgotten, far from it. But trying to build up a head of steam to launch more protests on the grounds of something that happened in the past would be de very difficult.
'Spend more money on a striker!' doesn't really do it as a chant, much as I wish they would.
Ajose would have soon been forgotten about had we signed an alternative that fitted our style of play and scored goals.
Same with the appointment of Head. Fans look for the positives. Doesn't mean bringing in a scout that a new manager might not want to work with is a good idea.
They need to make the right decisions, even if fans won't initially be impressed.
With all this delving into the past, this could end up like an episode if "Who so you think you are?".
The saddest thing is that my 3 mates and My Dad have gone together for years. It was a regular meet up in the the calendar. Through noone's fault but our own, life has gotten in the way and my mates and I have now only seen each other twice since Xmas. My Dad, 3 times at family events. We've naturally grown apart and it has become 'easier' not to go. Sad times.
KR has gradually built up a team set up to play 4-2-3-1. If we sacked him and brought in another coach who played 4-2-3-1, the change should be relatively easy, whereas if the next guy wanted 3-4-3 or 4-4-2, the current squad wouldn't work as successfully
We are told Karl has 100% control of playing matters by RD & KM yet KM wanted Watt gone & so it happens, I assume Swisdom got this from the horses mouth or he wouldn't have publicly stated it.
Yes, having a manager or even a player who understands the league is useful, but Riga wasn't a mistake! What this distortion in terms of interpreting the mistake actually tries to do in my opinion, is blame the managers. I am not saying that Peeters or Luzon were the best managers in our history, but they were not idiots and would have done better with better backing and balanced squads - and Peeters at least has said as much.
C all day from me and new manager by January. Which is disappointing because I believe that Meire and Duchatalet appreciate the financial benefits of being in tier two rather than three but won't invest to get there.
The rumour element? There will be no additions this window.
In every other club in the land, strikers will be on the most wages. When we signed him, Ajose had just had his best ever season and scored a hatful of goals. You can be sure he didn't come to us because we are the mighty Charlton, he came because we offered him more money than he was on at Swindon, that's all players are interested in these days.
Most fans were excited when we signed him thinking we had signed a striker to score plenty of goals for us, did anyone care how much we had to pay to get him, no of course not!
Still don't let that get in the way of you blaming the management will you.
Like I keep saying, Ajose was shite before Swindon and shite since, and now can't even get into Bury's team!
He was a classic stats signing, based on that one season.