I read it as the club are trying to move both players on, probably because KR wants Reeves instead of Ceballos and wants somebody else instead of Sarr but is unlikely to sign either until Ceballos and/or Sarr are moved on.
It also makes you wonder if KR is pig-headed enough to want Reeves instead of Ceballos regardless of what Ceballos does in pre-season, and if Ceballos is performing above KR's expectations then it muddies the waters again. Either way I feel if Reeves wants to join then KR will make it happen and Ceballos gets shipped out to St. Truiden again regardless how he's done pre-season.
That would be...frustrating, to say the least. The longer we wait, the better Ben Reeves becomes. I've long sung his praises, but I don't think he's a world beater. I think he's a good League One, and *maybe* an okay Championship player. I think former Barcelona and Spurs player Cristian Ceballos has the ability to succeed at a higher level.
I think calling him a former Barcelona and Spurs player is stretching it a bit given that he literally never played a single game for them !
For me the jury is still massively out on Ceballos, a couple of decent performances during kick abouts with pub teams in Ireland doesn't undo the major failings in his game that we saw when he played a few times for us a couple of years ago.
I read it as the club are trying to move both players on, probably because KR wants Reeves instead of Ceballos and wants somebody else instead of Sarr but is unlikely to sign either until Ceballos and/or Sarr are moved on.
It also makes you wonder if KR is pig-headed enough to want Reeves instead of Ceballos regardless of what Ceballos does in pre-season, and if Ceballos is performing above KR's expectations then it muddies the waters again. Either way I feel if Reeves wants to join then KR will make it happen and Ceballos gets shipped out to St. Truiden again regardless how he's done pre-season.
That would be...frustrating, to say the least. The longer we wait, the better Ben Reeves becomes. I've long sung his praises, but I don't think he's a world beater. I think he's a good League One, and *maybe* an okay Championship player. I think former Barcelona and Spurs player Cristian Ceballos has the ability to succeed at a higher level.
I think calling him a former Barcelona and Spurs player is stretching it a bit given that he literally never played a single game for them !
For me the jury is still massively out on Ceballos, a couple of decent performances during kick abouts with pub teams in Ireland doesn't undo the major failings in his game that we saw when he played a few times for us a couple of years ago.
Agreed, as someone who has been really pleased with Ceballos we cant get too carried away because of the standard of opposition so far
I'd be extremely disappointed if Robinson doesnt want to see him playing against the three League teams coming up, if he can perform to the high standards against them that he's proven against the likes of Greenwich Borough then it would be mad to get rid of him (Unless he's on crazy wages)... At the moment its like that scene in Only Fools and Horses when Del and Rodney think they've got an egg timer and it turns out to be a priceless item that basically wins them the lottery.
At the moment Ceballos is the egg timer but will be really frustrating if we loan him out and he turns out to be priceless!!
There were times last season when we really lacked creativity (especially when Holmes was injured) so to get rid of Ceballos at present would be an approach of praying that Holmes stays fit throughout the whole season which I highly doubt will happen because last season the only way teams could stop him was by kicking him off the pitch, that approach will have to happen again this time round!!
I shall be mightily pissed off if Ceballos leaves. He was excellent yesterday and in all the PSFs. The bloke who lives in Wrexham on the other forum says that Reeves is joining by Tuesday.
I shall be mightily pissed off if Ceballos leaves. He was excellent yesterday and in all the PSFs. The bloke who lives in Wrexham on the other forum says that Reeves is joining by Tuesday.
Which Tuesday? - He's been linked to join on every day of the week so far
Reckon Ceballos will have his bags packed in preparation until September to be honest... Reeves joins = Ceballos leaves!!
St Truiden are Duchatalets home team....the one who he supports and watches every week. Is it therefore not logical that he will do what is best for them rather than us? Or is that simplifying things too much?
He also owns them.
Oh does he.....well I didn't know that......so that changes things a bit I guess.
Is Tex really off the wage bill? Surely moving him from 1 network club to another doesn't get his wages off the books as all the money comes from the same pot?
If you're a Neanderthal northern defender being twisted and turned in a home match by Cebellos, you might want to 'let him know you're there', and see if he still takes the piss with some bruises and a dead leg and some rib bruises. Cebellos is technically very good for this league, it is a question of whether he is robust enough.
P.S. Reeves is quite good but he is not without flaws, bigging him up as much as we are is a risk. Mind you if we sign him I hope he is the next Claus Jensen.
With Tex now gone and Ceballos seemingly off too I'd imagine that frees up the funds to bring in Reeves and Da Silva this week. Be fairly happy with that tbh. Really just need a keeper then. As good a prospect as Phillips is I think we need an experienced no.1 for a promotion challenge.
Reeves had better be a world beater otherwise he'll be getting pelters on here from day one........especially from me!!
I can't see the logic of binning someone who has looked good in the pre-season friendlies he's played in (yes, they may be against lesser opposition than what he'll come up against in League 1, but some of his team mates didn't exactly pull up trees in those games did they) & replace him with someone who, A) has not yet had any proper pre-season training, b) doesn't know the club, team mates or area & may have to relocate and C) may not be as good as the player we already have.
As they say - better the devil you know. So with that I'm pinning my colours to Ceballos.
St Truiden are Duchatalets home team....the one who he supports and watches every week. Is it therefore not logical that he will do what is best for them rather than us? Or is that simplifying things too much?
That is a reasonable thing to infer. I also wonder what the terms of transfers are. I don't trust Duchatelet one iota & Meire will do whatever Duchatelet tells her, with any major football decisions. Roll on the day when Duchatelet & Meire are no longer at Charlton & involved with football & player decisions.
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
I know that Robinson likes Lennon. The problem is that he has been injured for quite a while and is so far behind the others on fitness. He needs to get back quick and hit the ground running. If he manages it, he could be very good in League One.
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Can the coaching staff improve Sarr ? He has all the physical attributes .
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Sarr is on a contract until 2020. It is unclear whether he will improve or whether the blunders can be coached out of his game. Also whether Sarr is any good in the air or suited to British football, particularly in league one, where that is essential.
Lennon is on a contract to 2018, promising at times, did well at Gillingham, but has been injured & needs to improve on fitness.
Given the length of contract & the likelihood of Sarr being anything but a back up central defender & the question as whether Sarr can cope with aerial part of the game, if Charlton could move on Sarr on favourable terms without having to subsidise half his wages, It would be Sarr to go for me.
Sarr could improve though, anything is possible, even Sheff Utd came good eventually.
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Which is on £8k PW and which on £1.5k/2k PW? (estimate)
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Neither can hold a candle to any of the fine, fine players that have graced the home team's defence at Stadium MK....
Who do you think Robbo rates more. Lennon or Sarr?
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Which is on £8k PW and which on £1.5k/2k PW? (estimate)
I am sure if it were a financial consideration it would be a no brainer. If Robbo had a choice I suspect he would move on both and bring his own man. I only ask which one as before the Ireland games I would have been a Lennon man, but now not so sure.
For MK Dons played 28. 30 18 and 30 games in his four seasons so at most 2/3 of the 46 league games
Seems to have hamstring problems
Given our inability to manage our players injuries that concerns me quite a lot. Next thing we know we'll be told that new signing Ben Reeves his disappeared to have treatment for his hamstring injury and the club are unable to locate him.
Not transfer related but may interest a few posters. I was at a party last night and got chatting to a bloke who is the chef for the Norwich City team. I was quite surprised that he not only prepared the pre match meal for the players but also traveled to away matches for post match meals. He said his next away match was at the Valley. We discussed the sacking of Dean Kiely this week and he said what a really nice bloke Dean was. Always prepared to thank the chap for his food preparation. I asked him if Kiely would end up with Alex Neil at Preston but he said Norwich City had a clause in Neils contract that prevented the poaching of more than one coach and one of the coaches had already joined Preston.
Not transfer related but may interest a few posters. I was at a party last night and got chatting to a bloke who is the chef for the Norwich City team. I was quite surprised that he not only prepared the pre match meal for the players but also traveled to away matches for post match meals. He said his next away match was at the Valley. We discussed the sacking of Dean Kiely this week and he said what a really nice bloke Dean was. Always prepared to thank the chap for his food preparation. I asked him if Kiely would end up with Alex Neil at Preston but he said Norwich City had a clause in Neils contract that prevented the poaching of more than one coach and one of the coaches had already joined Preston.
I'd imagine our pre-match chef is Ronald McDonald.
Not transfer related but may interest a few posters. I was at a party last night and got chatting to a bloke who is the chef for the Norwich City team. I was quite surprised that he not only prepared the pre match meal for the players but also traveled to away matches for post match meals. He said his next away match was at the Valley. We discussed the sacking of Dean Kiely this week and he said what a really nice bloke Dean was. Always prepared to thank the chap for his food preparation. I asked him if Kiely would end up with Alex Neil at Preston but he said Norwich City had a clause in Neils contract that prevented the poaching of more than one coach and one of the coaches had already joined Preston.
Surely if Dean Kiely has been sacked by Norwich he can go wherever he wants as the Clause in Neil's Contract won't be applicable to Kiely now as he's not on the Norwich payroll?
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For me the jury is still massively out on Ceballos, a couple of decent performances during kick abouts with pub teams in Ireland doesn't undo the major failings in his game that we saw when he played a few times for us a couple of years ago.
I'd be extremely disappointed if Robinson doesnt want to see him playing against the three League teams coming up, if he can perform to the high standards against them that he's proven against the likes of Greenwich Borough then it would be mad to get rid of him (Unless he's on crazy wages)... At the moment its like that scene in Only Fools and Horses when Del and Rodney think they've got an egg timer and it turns out to be a priceless item that basically wins them the lottery.
At the moment Ceballos is the egg timer but will be really frustrating if we loan him out and he turns out to be priceless!!
There were times last season when we really lacked creativity (especially when Holmes was injured) so to get rid of Ceballos at present would be an approach of praying that Holmes stays fit throughout the whole season which I highly doubt will happen because last season the only way teams could stop him was by kicking him off the pitch, that approach will have to happen again this time round!!
Reckon Ceballos will have his bags packed in preparation until September to be honest... Reeves joins = Ceballos leaves!!
God I hate this network crap!
Cebellos is technically very good for this league, it is a question of whether he is robust enough.
Ceballos with Ronaldhino at Barca.
I think he's actually rather injury prone
For MK Dons played 28. 30 18 and 30 games in his four seasons so at most 2/3 of the 46 league games
Seems to have hamstring problems
I can't see the logic of binning someone who has looked good in the pre-season friendlies he's played in (yes, they may be against lesser opposition than what he'll come up against in League 1, but some of his team mates didn't exactly pull up trees in those games did they) & replace him with someone who, A) has not yet had any proper pre-season training, b) doesn't know the club, team mates or area & may have to relocate and C) may not be as good as the player we already have.
As they say - better the devil you know. So with that I'm pinning my colours to Ceballos.
Lennon has played at this level and did quite well at Gillingham (they wanted him back), but has had a long lay off with an injury so we do not know how this has affected him, and was he that great anyway?
Sarr is a big lump, also left footed, passes the ball quite well but was prone to a few howlers?
Who should leave?
Lennon is on a contract to 2018, promising at times, did well at Gillingham, but has been injured & needs to improve on fitness.
Given the length of contract & the likelihood of Sarr being anything but a back up central defender & the question as whether Sarr can cope with aerial part of the game, if Charlton could move on Sarr on favourable terms without having to subsidise half his wages, It would be Sarr to go for me.
Sarr could improve though, anything is possible, even Sheff Utd came good eventually.
I was at a party last night and got chatting to a bloke who is the chef for the Norwich City team.
I was quite surprised that he not only prepared the pre match meal for the players but also traveled to away matches for post match meals.
He said his next away match was at the Valley.
We discussed the sacking of Dean Kiely this week and he said what a really nice bloke Dean was.
Always prepared to thank the chap for his food preparation.
I asked him if Kiely would end up with Alex Neil at Preston but he said Norwich City had a clause in Neils contract that prevented the poaching of more than one coach and one of the coaches had already joined Preston.