I just think being a self made millionaire, does not always mean you're good at business. For example - RD may have built up very successful companies in fields where he is an expert but when it comes to selling football clubs, it's a completely different beast to what he's used to and he's too greedy and too arrogant to realise that. He doesn't seem to acknowledge there's a ceiling price for League 1 football clubs losing £1 million every month and turning down anything near £40 million for what he initially paid £18 million is fuckin ludicrous, even if it mean he's lost £4 or £5 million over the whole time
You know that mate as do I and the vast majority of fans but the blokes got a serious personality disorder. He's never wrong, he never fails he lives in his own little fantasy world with so many people who despise him.
Some legacy that to have on the richest tombstone in the cemetery.
Trouble is, we just don’t know. All we know is the spin / version that one side wants to leak out.
It could be the Aussies just can’t get the finance after having lost a couple of backers. It could equally be that after the recent sale of assets Roland still wants the same asking price for the club (but now with less assets), which the Aussies might think is taking the mick.
None of us know. It’s painful.
The stories about RD holding a fire sale aren’t coming from the Aussies at all.
So what are the Aussies saying about this @Airman Brown ?
Are they out?
The Aussies aren't saying anything at the moment, and only leak minimal info (since the beer meet).
Not being funny James, but if their ever was a time to give them a call now would be it.
I wish people would stop trying to micromanage James's relationship / contact with the Aussies. Not helpful.
I think the fact they release a statement saying they’re still working on it, unfortunately means that we are still at least a couple of weeks away which leaves us fucked for new season
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
He would do - he’s losing money hand over fist.
As does every club below the Premier League. We just have an owner who refuses to understand that is NORMAL.
Not £1m a month they don’t.
I read in a report some time ago that Villa's monthly running costs are £6m. Don't know what the monthly loss figure is but that's crazy. We are not the only club that's costing a huge lot of money every day.
Villa need to raise 40m in players sales this summer just to stay on the right side of FFP. Also read that their wage bill is higher than half a dozen premier league clubs. Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
Trouble is, we just don’t know. All we know is the spin / version that one side wants to leak out.
It could be the Aussies just can’t get the finance after having lost a couple of backers. It could equally be that after the recent sale of assets Roland still wants the same asking price for the club (but now with less assets), which the Aussies might think is taking the mick.
None of us know. It’s painful.
The stories about RD holding a fire sale aren’t coming from the Aussies at all.
So what are the Aussies saying about this @Airman Brown ?
Are they out?
The Aussies aren't saying anything at the moment, and only leak minimal info (since the beer meet).
Not being funny James, but if their ever was a time to give them a call now would be it.
I wish people would stop trying to micromanage James's relationship / contact with the Aussies. Not helpful.
He’s given us some great info from speaking with them. It is helpful.
So a statement today by our would be buyers? A bit confused though as when @JamesSeed broke this late last night night it was already today in Australia, whilst yesterday here in England and depending on how late this statement is announced it could already be tomorrow there whilst still today.
Got the phone call at 21:30. My contact is in England. He was working on statement with Paul Elliott. Don’t know what time it’ll be released, but I imagine it’ll be via Rich Cawley. All I know is they won’t be saying they’re pulling out.
So a statement today by our would be buyers? A bit confused though as when @JamesSeed broke this late last night night it was already today in Australia, whilst yesterday here in England and depending on how late this statement is announced it could already be tomorrow there whilst still today.
Got the phone call at 21:30. My contact is in England. He was working on statement with Paul Elliott. Don’t know what time it’ll be released, but I imagine it’ll be via Rich Cawley. All I know is they won’t be saying they’re pulling out.
So a statement today by our would be buyers? A bit confused though as when @JamesSeed broke this late last night night it was already today in Australia, whilst yesterday here in England and depending on how late this statement is announced it could already be tomorrow there whilst still today.
Got the phone call at 21:30. My contact is in England. He was working on statement with Paul Elliott. Don’t know what time it’ll be released, but I imagine it’ll be via Rich Cawley. All I know is they won’t be saying they’re pulling out.
if we get out of this NOT in div 4, itll be a miracle.
his death is our only hope.
On many occasions you have referred to the death of Duchatelet.
Be ashamed of yourself, that is a disgusting thing to say.
We are all destined to die and Duchatelet did predict his own shelf life a few years ago, publicly. Its a part of life, (or may be it isn't). I don't wish his life away but hopefully I've got many more years left in me supporting Charlton than he has owning Charlton.
(I only posted this because I have nothing of value to add to this thread but like so many others want it to reach a 1000 pages before we are sold or relegated to division 4. Just doing my bit.)
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
He would do - he’s losing money hand over fist.
As does every club below the Premier League. We just have an owner who refuses to understand that is NORMAL.
Not £1m a month they don’t.
I read in a report some time ago that Villa's monthly running costs are £6m. Don't know what the monthly loss figure is but that's crazy. We are not the only club that's costing a huge lot of money every day.
Villa need to raise 40m in players sales this summer just to stay on the right side of FFP. Also read that their wage bill is higher than half a dozen premier league clubs. Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
The bank I work for has branches all over China and one of them did the purchase deal for Dr. Xia's company (a low risk financial facility). I read briefly about the deal but never thought Villa would get into such financial troubles. What Xia did since taking over was like gambling...
I think the amount of money involved in the Premier League and the Championship is insane. We (Charlton) are living on a completely different planet.
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
He would do - he’s losing money hand over fist.
As does every club below the Premier League. We just have an owner who refuses to understand that is NORMAL.
Not £1m a month they don’t.
I read in a report some time ago that Villa's monthly running costs are £6m. Don't know what the monthly loss figure is but that's crazy. We are not the only club that's costing a huge lot of money every day.
Villa need to raise 40m in players sales this summer just to stay on the right side of FFP. Also read that their wage bill is higher than half a dozen premier league clubs. Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
The bank I work for has branches all over China and one of them did the purchase deal for Dr. Xia's company (a low risk financial facility). I read briefly about the deal but never thought Villa would get into such financial troubles. What Xia did since taking over was like gambling...
I think the amount of money involved in the Premier League and the Championship is insane. We (Charlton) are living on a completely different planet.
That's the gamble many relegated teams take. Newcastle for example would've been in a very similar, if not worse position had they not gone straight back up.
Bizarre. The bloke is purely trying to be helpful.
Not exclusively the province of Mr Seed. Generally people whose posts aren't what the rest want to hear seem to get a hard time. To a certain extent, I wonder why anyone who gets any info would post it, given how easily offended some people get.
so we wait for a "statement" . We have been forewarned that its not announcing the sale--------Its Charlton be prepared to be disappointed its what we do.
I just think being a self made millionaire, does not always mean you're good at business. For example - RD may have built up very successful companies in fields where he is an expert but when it comes to selling football clubs, it's a completely different beast to what he's used to and he's too greedy and too arrogant to realise that. He doesn't seem to acknowledge there's a ceiling price for League 1 football clubs losing £1 million every month and turning down anything near £40 million for what he initially paid £18 million is fuckin ludicrous, even if it mean he's lost £4 or £5 million over the whole time
You know that mate as do I and the vast majority of fans but the blokes got a serious personality disorder. He's never wrong, he never fails he lives in his own little fantasy world with so many people who despise him.
Some legacy that to have on the richest tombstone in the cemetery.
I think the fact they release a statement saying they’re still working on it, unfortunately means that we are still at least a couple of weeks away which leaves us fucked for new season
That depends on whether you believe Bowyer. Some nice chap on hear told me they were recruiting in the background, weeks ago. A lot will depend on Duchâtelet though :-(
I’m hoping the statement might mention recruitment, and you might expect conciliatory remarks about Roland. Just a guess though.
So a statement today by our would be buyers? A bit confused though as when @JamesSeed broke this late last night night it was already today in Australia, whilst yesterday here in England and depending on how late this statement is announced it could already be tomorrow there whilst still today.
Got the phone call at 21:30. My contact is in England. He was working on statement with Paul Elliott. Don’t know what time it’ll be released, but I imagine it’ll be via Rich Cawley. All I know is they won’t be saying they’re pulling out.
I think Duchatelet's behaviour may have taken us to a point where the Aussies will be best served breaking cover.
I'd go along with that as well.
It's got to the point now where some people are even blaming the Aussies, "they don't have enough money", "Roland wants to sell so the problem must be with them", "there's an issue with their investors" etc. Just release a statement and get the fans onside, as it'll put even more pressure on RD.
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
He would do - he’s losing money hand over fist.
As does every club below the Premier League. We just have an owner who refuses to understand that is NORMAL.
Not £1m a month they don’t.
I read in a report some time ago that Villa's monthly running costs are £6m. Don't know what the monthly loss figure is but that's crazy. We are not the only club that's costing a huge lot of money every day.
Villa need to raise 40m in players sales this summer just to stay on the right side of FFP. Also read that their wage bill is higher than half a dozen premier league clubs. Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
The bank I work for has branches all over China and one of them did the purchase deal for Dr. Xia's company (a low risk financial facility). I read briefly about the deal but never thought Villa would get into such financial troubles. What Xia did since taking over was like gambling...
I think the amount of money involved in the Premier League and the Championship is insane. We (Charlton) are living on a completely different planet.
That's the gamble many relegated teams take. Newcastle for example would've been in a very similar, if not worse position had they not gone straight back up.
Makes me wonder which kind of owners are better/worse. RD or Xia/Ashley. If I had to choose between the two, I'd prefer the latter.
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
He would do - he’s losing money hand over fist.
As does every club below the Premier League. We just have an owner who refuses to understand that is NORMAL.
Not £1m a month they don’t.
I read in a report some time ago that Villa's monthly running costs are £6m. Don't know what the monthly loss figure is but that's crazy. We are not the only club that's costing a huge lot of money every day.
Villa need to raise 40m in players sales this summer just to stay on the right side of FFP. Also read that their wage bill is higher than half a dozen premier league clubs. Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
The bank I work for has branches all over China and one of them did the purchase deal for Dr. Xia's company (a low risk financial facility). I read briefly about the deal but never thought Villa would get into such financial troubles. What Xia did since taking over was like gambling...
I think the amount of money involved in the Premier League and the Championship is insane. We (Charlton) are living on a completely different planet.
That's the gamble many relegated teams take. Newcastle for example would've been in a very similar, if not worse position had they not gone straight back up.
Makes me wonder which kind of owners are better/worse. RD or Xia/Ashley. If I had to choose between the two, I'd prefer the latter.
Well to be honest if you were having a discussion about owners worse than RD, i think it'd be a short one. Oyston and SISU probably covers it. And we're all in the same division next season.
The interesting thing is that RD is offering big discounts on players for cash.
Says who
Why else do you think Brentford got Konsa when other bigger clubs have been sniffing around?
But never offered the asking price or even a very near offfef from what I heard
It benefits RD that sale massively it’s asset stripping at the very least it’s criminal at best
But it also reduces the value of the club and its price
Which may just help those who ain’t showing the colour of their money yet
So back to my point before, what if after selling Konsa (for say £2m rising to a potential £3m, but with an inflated up front payment- my guess figures), the Aussies say ok, you’ve sold one our key value player assets, we want the deal price reduced by the amount you’ve just received up front as the squad value has been reduced, and RD says no, the price is not changing a penny. Who is in the wrong then?
Not,saying that is what has happened, but equally it could. As I said, we don’t really know
Even worse, as others have mentioned, they might value Konsa higher than Roly. So he sells for £3M but they want £4M off the asking price?
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Some legacy that to have on the richest tombstone in the cemetery.
Makes you laugh really, that 40m is roughly what RD is asking for our entire club!!
Don’t know what time it’ll be released, but I imagine it’ll be via Rich Cawley.
All I know is they won’t be saying they’re pulling out.
Its a part of life, (or may be it isn't).
I don't wish his life away but hopefully I've got many more years left in me supporting Charlton than he has owning Charlton.
(I only posted this because I have nothing of value to add to this thread but like so many others want it to reach a 1000 pages before we are sold or relegated to division 4. Just doing my bit.)
I think the amount of money involved in the Premier League and the Championship is insane. We (Charlton) are living on a completely different planet.
That depends on whether you believe Bowyer. Some nice chap on hear told me they were recruiting in the background, weeks ago. A lot will depend on Duchâtelet though :-(
I’m hoping the statement might mention recruitment, and you might expect conciliatory remarks about Roland. Just a guess though.
It's got to the point now where some people are even blaming the Aussies, "they don't have enough money", "Roland wants to sell so the problem must be with them", "there's an issue with their investors" etc. Just release a statement and get the fans onside, as it'll put even more pressure on RD.
For a statement
About a day at some point in the future
That another statement will be released
Confirming the sale of Charlton football club