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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

  • Is there any Clubs from Championship down to National League where Directors haven't lent money to keep the club's going ?
    The clause where it's only paid back if we get in the Premier is the strange part, because surely Murray with his few million and White with his 250k and the other ex Directors must of realized being successful businessmen that may never happen in their lifetime or that the club could well change hands at least once.  Where is the middle man with business acumen to broker this deal.
    I just don't see why this "clean title" is such a problem when other clubs are sold with all sort of complex issues on the table.

    Not reaching a price or thrashing out how much up front is easier to understand than this impasse on loans.
  • Can we get a title update? 

    Sale of Charlton - (nothing concrete in ever)

  • Good grief
  • Stone the crows. 
  • Change title to: Save our Charlton.
  • .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
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  • JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
  • edited June 2019
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    There are some wrong assumptions on CL about what Roland has and hadn’t done, and what his current position is. He isn’t offering to pay the ex directors at all now, is he?
  • JamesSeed said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    The Aussies weren’t offering a haircut. Can’t say too much though. 
    Can you confirm that they or their backers are demanding Clean title. 
  • edited June 2019
    Chappell, Whitehand and Sumner put out a statement via VOTV saying they were not prepared to take a haircut.
    They said they want repayment in full.

    As for Murray, Hatter, Hughes and White, we don't know what their views are.
    However, Dave White said he had been recently contacted, was willing to have a discussion, but no discussion had taken place.
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  • _MrDick said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.  

    Are you certain he has.

    He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.
  • edited June 2019
    JamesSeed said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    There are some wrong assumptions on CL about what Roland has and hadn’t done, and what his current position is. He isn’t offering to pay the ex directors at all now, is he?
    He is.

    Just at a discounted rate. And as long as he sells CAFC as a complete entity, then my understanding that they may well be acceptable to the ex Directors.

    Obviously dependant on the level of the 'discount'.
  • Addickted said:
    _MrDick said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.  

    Are you certain he has.

    He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.
    I”m not certain about anything these days apart from going to bed and getting up everyday. He was responding to a tweet I sent him about Duchatelet’s missive last week which said he’d never spoken to or met the man
  • I agree that the ex Directors should not be expected to take a haircut, but, I am sure that like us, they would want to see the back of Roland completely, so I would fully understand them stating for the good of the club, that they would be prepared to.
  • Addickted said:
    _MrDick said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    Is that correct? Bob Whitehand has this morning said on Twitter that he’s never met or spoken to Duchatelet.  

    Are you certain he has.

    He may not have spoken to or met RD, but LvT has been in touch with all the ex Directors now.

  • First off can I just say that I respect the views and reasons why any of the former directors feel about getting paid in full. That is purely for them to decide. 

    What I will say though is that given the loans are not paid in full until the football club returns to The Premier League.  I don’t find it completely surprising that in order to “cash out” early on a bet that might never come in that they are being offered something less. 

    We have heard of a previous derisory offer which completely fits in with the Belgian maniacs modus operandi and has rightly been rejected but my point stands that any offer now to clear the loans might be less than the full amount. 

    Thats not to say each of the former former directors have to accept that.


  • edited June 2019
    So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
    Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?

    Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus and now have cash flow problems ?
  • JamesSeed said:
    Addickted said:
    JamesSeed said:
    .clb74 said:
    Scoham said:
    The three directors RD has blamed for holding up the takeover are owed a total of £2.65m.

    If he for example only wants to pay them 50% then RD is delaying the takeover for the sake of £1.32m.

    Even if the clubs losses are cut to say £6m a season, the takeover dragging on another 3 months means he may have to put another £1.5m into the club.

    He’s likely to get £30m+ by selling the club and potentially further payments if we’re experience any success on the pitch.

    Have the other directors agreed to be paid a % of their loan and therefore RD is refusing to pay any of them off in full?
    That would be a kick in the b@llocks from the Aussies aswell then.
    No it's not thier debt , but after all this time and the season 2 months away the Aussies are going to mess about over £1.3 million.
    Can't see it.
    If Roland decides to settle the £1.3 million just before the start of the season the Aussies will have a few weeks to get in the players the manager wants.

    I believe it’s £7m the Aussies are dealing with now.  
    I’ve a possible solution to the current impasse, but it would involve compromise by Roland, which might be a stumbling block. 
    But it's not.

    The ex Directors are prepared to take a hair cut, as long as he sells lock, stock and barrel. RDs post suggests that he has already agreed with the majority of the ex Directors (though David White has questioned that).

    At least the position seems more fluid now that LvT has contacted them at last.
    The Aussies weren’t offering a haircut. Can’t say too much though. 
    Can you confirm that they or their backers are demanding Clean title. 
    I believe they spent a lot of time and money (before we'd even heard that they were interested in the club) sorting out complex ownership issues, I think dating back to the Jimenez era. 
    I suspect they might view further complications with suspicion?
  • So the situation is not an impasse but a total stalemate.
    Why did Chappel, Whitehand and Sumner make loans which would be paid back if we make the Premier yet now want to be paid out in full ?

    Did they invest money with Neil Woodford or Richard Rufus !


    I am not sure that this is right ...............

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