How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.
Losses mount every day.
No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.
You make the false assumption that RD is "rational." Arguments such as "this is costing him money!" or "he has no alternatives!" just are meaningless to him. After all, he bought without doing DD.
No assumption. I just don’t see what the perceived benefit is for him in discrediting the Aussies.
The post I replied to implied there is advantage to him. If so what ?
It shifts the blame for the delay/failure away from him.
We know he doesn't "do failure" and he doesn't want, imho, to take the blame for his rushed DD, his huge losses or unreasonable price.
So it's an easy one to blame the Aussies.
Financially he'd be better off cutting his losses but his pride won't let him.
So RD who cares not about supporters and their views now needs to question the deal in its entirety by suggesting the Aussies have no funds to complete the deal ?
I still don't see why he would put this message out just to account for the delay. His interest surely is limiting losses not about what 'we' think about the time taken to conclude the deal.
Likewise what's your rationale for RM being behind a suggestion the Aussie deal has no funding in place ?
Maybe he's the British interest and wants a clear run at it.
But went on record and said otherwise ?
Also still doesn’t account for RD putting out messages.
Genuinely I don’t see why he RD would do that when he wants out.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate. Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
They can sell Baton, Holdings but Charges still there , not a hurdle to Aussies so why have they not done it? Why have they never spoken to Ex Directors? So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate. Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
They can sell Baton, Holdings but Charges still there , not a hurdle to Aussies so why have they not done it? Why have they never spoken to Ex Directors? So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
Make your mind up.
First it was Duchatelet who wouldn't pay it off but know your asking why the Aussies haven't paid it.
As usual you pose more questions than you give answers.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
There’s nothing dodgy going on, not from the Aussie side anyway. If there’s a niff in the air, and I suspect there is, it’s coming from a different direction.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate. Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
They can sell Baton, Holdings but Charges still there , not a hurdle to Aussies so why have they not done it? Why have they never spoken to Ex Directors? So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
Make your mind up.
First it was Duchatelet who wouldn't pay it off but know your asking why the Aussies haven't paid it.
As usual you pose more questions than you give answers.
No i dont , keep up , Roland not paying so buyer has to, whats hard to understand about that. Aussies, Spacemen, Saudis who the hell ever, have you got it now? I am not posting anymore as its likeceducating children. Bye abuse me at your will Henry.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Sheeple? Bit harsh. To say something bad about the Aussies you need to have some evidence that they’ve done something wrong. If we find out something bad about the Aussies I’m sure opinions will shift. You’ve speculated a lot here, but I’m not sure what it’s based on, is all.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
I don't like the idea of the Aussies, something ain't right.
I agree that something isn't right but not convinced it's the Aussies.
It might be them but if so why did all the other parties walk away?
And who does all this briefing against the Aussies suit?
Only Roland and Murray.
Maybe the other parties walked away because they see that Charlton is, essentially, a money pit and the chances of it paying off are incredibly slim. The Australians might be rich/stupid/ignorant enough to roll those dice but the longer this drags on the less the former seems likely.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Sheeple? Bit harsh. To say something bad about the Aussies you need to have some evidence that they’ve done something wrong. If we find out something bad about the Aussies I’m sure opinions will shift. You’ve speculated a lot here, but I’m not sure what it’s based on, is all.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
It's taken them well over a year to get their hands on a tin pot league one club.
Alarm bells have pretty much rung themselves out. Something seriously wrong with their plan imo. You can bang their drum all you like. The fact that they still haven't managed to get this over the line at point critical speaks volumes. Any group with proper business savvy would have walked away long ago imo.
Don't tell me. .....They're just trying to help us out and are hanging in there for the good of the club. Total bollox if you ask me.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Sheeple? Bit harsh. To say something bad about the Aussies you need to have some evidence that they’ve done something wrong. If we find out something bad about the Aussies I’m sure opinions will shift. You’ve speculated a lot here, but I’m not sure what it’s based on, is all.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
It's taken them well over a year to get their hands on a tin pot league one club.
Alarm bells have pretty much rung themselves out. Something seriously wrong with their plan imo. You can bang their drum all you like. The fact that they still haven't managed to get this over the line at point critical speaks volumes. Any group with proper business savvy would have walked away long ago imo.
Don't tell me. .....They're just trying to help us out and are hanging in there for the good of the club. Total bollox if you ask me.
Grossly inadequate, ineffective, dim-witted owner speculating that there might be other bidders, while flogging assets, driving down the value of the club and failing to secure clean title on the club, more than four years after buying it, having done too little due diligence in order to save money.
And it's the Aussies' fault the deal's not been completed?
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Sheeple? Bit harsh. To say something bad about the Aussies you need to have some evidence that they’ve done something wrong. If we find out something bad about the Aussies I’m sure opinions will shift. You’ve speculated a lot here, but I’m not sure what it’s based on, is all.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
It's taken them well over a year to get their hands on a tin pot league one club.
Alarm bells have pretty much rung themselves out. Something seriously wrong with their plan imo. You can bang their drum all you like. The fact that they still haven't managed to get this over the line at point critical speaks volumes. Any group with proper business savvy would have walked away long ago imo.
Don't tell me. .....They're just trying to help us out and are hanging in there for the good of the club. Total bollox if you ask me.
So you’d rather they had given up after what, a week, a month, six months? Based on your idea of what proper business savvy is all about?
Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn’t. But if they had where would you be now? Enjoying Roland’s fire sale? Waiting for some Brits to scrape together the thirty or forty million required to buy out Roly, so they too can run the club on a shoestring budget? Again, your last bit suggests they’re up to no good. What do you think they’re after? And where’s your evidence?
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate. Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
They can sell Baton, Holdings but Charges still there , not a hurdle to Aussies so why have they not done it? Why have they never spoken to Ex Directors? So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
Make your mind up.
First it was Duchatelet who wouldn't pay it off but know your asking why the Aussies haven't paid it.
As usual you pose more questions than you give answers.
No i dont , keep up , Roland not paying so buyer has to, whats hard to understand about that. Aussies, Spacemen, Saudis who the hell ever, have you got it now? I am not posting anymore as its likeceducating children. Bye abuse me at your will Henry.
Dave.....please don’t stop posting, your posts to this forum and this thread in particular are vital. Don’t allow a ‘certain someone’ to drive you away........that would be tragic and I’m sure you can give as good as you get if push comes to shove in the debating/argument stakes......should that be necessary. You are one of the few on here who have ‘some’ genuine first hand knowledge of what’s taking place and I for one would like to thank you for sharing that info with us. Kindly reconsider your position Dave and continue to post.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
There’s nothing dodgy going on, not from the Aussie side anyway. If there’s a niff in the air, and I suspect there is, it’s coming from a different direction.
There's no way you can know that, all you know is what you're told. People lie.
This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer. Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club. Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds. Over to you Roland.
All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate. Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
They can sell Baton, Holdings but Charges still there , not a hurdle to Aussies so why have they not done it? Why have they never spoken to Ex Directors? So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
Make your mind up.
First it was Duchatelet who wouldn't pay it off but know your asking why the Aussies haven't paid it.
As usual you pose more questions than you give answers.
Any chance you could pay it off? Smooth the wheels of business and all that?
I'd make an offer, but I'd have to withdraw my bid for the Club, and we still need that on the table as a fall back position.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
There’s nothing dodgy going on, not from the Aussie side anyway. If there’s a niff in the air, and I suspect there is, it’s coming from a different direction.
There's no way you can know that, all you know is what you're told. People lie.
I know the bloke very well, and he’s not dodgy. And he speaks very highly of Andrew Muir, who is already known to to be a good guy and a philanthropist. So at least I have some first hand knowledge, which leads me to believe they’re not crooks, whereas those who are starting this ‘the Aussies are dodgy’ / ‘something doesn’t smell right’ campaign know nothing, and at best are doing it based on what *they* are told.
If someone comes up with evidence, fine, but it’s all speculation @Stu_of_Kunming
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
I'm not claiming to have a great business mind, but I've been saying it a while, if these are the same outfit who were sniffing round for more investment in the City to even make the initial offer, it should ring alarm bells imo.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
Sheeple? Bit harsh. To say something bad about the Aussies you need to have some evidence that they’ve done something wrong. If we find out something bad about the Aussies I’m sure opinions will shift. You’ve speculated a lot here, but I’m not sure what it’s based on, is all.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
It's taken them well over a year to get their hands on a tin pot league one club.
Alarm bells have pretty much rung themselves out. Something seriously wrong with their plan imo. You can bang their drum all you like. The fact that they still haven't managed to get this over the line at point critical speaks volumes. Any group with proper business savvy would have walked away long ago imo.
Don't tell me. .....They're just trying to help us out and are hanging in there for the good of the club. Total bollox if you ask me.
The Americans buying into Palace took about a year.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
There’s nothing dodgy going on, not from the Aussie side anyway. If there’s a niff in the air, and I suspect there is, it’s coming from a different direction.
There's no way you can know that, all you know is what you're told. People lie.
I know the bloke very well. And he speaks very highly of Andrew Muir, who is already known to to be a good guy and a philanthropist. So at least I have first hand knowledge, whereas those who are starting this ‘the Aussies are dodgy’ / ‘something doesn’t smell right’ campaign know nothing, and at best are doing it based on what *they* are told.
If someone comes up with evidence, fine, but it’s all speculation.
This thread didn't get where it is today by relying on evidence.
@JamesSeed please remember this is a discussion forum, not a court of law.
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
There’s nothing dodgy going on, not from the Aussie side anyway. If there’s a niff in the air, and I suspect there is, it’s coming from a different direction.
There's no way you can know that, all you know is what you're told. People lie.
I know the bloke very well. And he speaks very highly of Andrew Muir, who is already known to to be a good guy and a philanthropist. So at least I have first hand knowledge, whereas those who are starting this ‘the Aussies are dodgy’ / ‘something doesn’t smell right’ campaign know nothing, and at best are doing it based on what *they* are told.
If someone comes up with evidence, fine, but it’s all speculation.
I don’t think people are really suggesting they are dodgy James....just maybe not as pleasing and attractive as we once thought. It’s a curious one as Andrew Muir certainly has the finance to close the deal at the drop of a hat ‘should he so wish’, the thing is he seems to be unwilling to do so as he evidently wants to spread the costs with further investors on board. To say the Aussie consortium don’t have the money has ‘never’ really been the case....they most certainly do, in the figure of Andrew Muir alone, but he clearly is not going to spend it on a highly inflated valuation with some ‘possible’ muddy water in the background to boot.........well, not just yet anyway.
@JamesSeed please remember this is a discussion forum, not a court of law.
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
I'm well aware of that mate, and in the absence of facts or genuine info it's inevitable.
But if people are starting to put out that the Aussies are bent then they have to expect to be challenged as you well know. That is also part of the debate, as is evidence and speculation.
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Also still doesn’t account for RD putting out messages.
Genuinely I don’t see why he RD would do that when he wants out.
So i suggest Bollox is not my problem.
First it was Duchatelet who wouldn't pay it off but know your asking why the Aussies haven't paid it.
As usual you pose more questions than you give answers.
I think the Aussies have thought they've had the upper hand all along and basically went along with everything to get to the point where RD was so desperate to offload, that He would agree to a couple of small concessions to get the deal over the line, the £7 million charge being one, but they never took into account what a greedy stubborn old goat he is. Whoever was responsible for paying this £7 million off shoulda / woulda been agreed months ago, surely. So why is it a sticking point now, when the deal is supposedly so close? Someone ain't being honest and I personally don't think its all RD meself.
Queue the LOLs from the sheeple on here who won't have nothing bad said about the Aussies, but look at the bigger picture ffs, even if the deal goes through on Monday, there's still a couple of quite large question marks over certain things that have gone on over the last few months.
I am not posting anymore as its likeceducating children. Bye abuse me at your will Henry.
What are these question marks? There’s been lots of speculation about them bidding high, or bidding low, or paying off directors or not paying off directors, when the truth is no one knows what’s going on in the negotiations because they’re between Gerard Murphy and Roland’s money man, and neither are saying a word. If you’re implying something shady is going on, I’d like to see your evidence of that!
GM has said zero to me since our beer, except to deny rumours put out by agitators.
So what is your evidence, or where are you hearing these rumours?
Alarm bells have pretty much rung themselves out. Something seriously wrong with their plan imo.
You can bang their drum all you like. The fact that they still haven't managed to get this over the line at point critical speaks volumes.
Any group with proper business savvy would have walked away long ago imo.
Don't tell me. .....They're just trying to help us out and are hanging in there for the good of the club.
Total bollox if you ask me.
And it's the Aussies' fault the deal's not been completed?
Incredible.
Maybe they should, maybe they shouldn’t. But if they had where would you be now? Enjoying Roland’s fire sale? Waiting for some Brits to scrape together the thirty or forty million required to buy out Roly, so they too can run the club on a shoestring budget?
Again, your last bit suggests they’re up to no good. What do you think they’re after? And where’s your evidence?
Don’t allow a ‘certain someone’ to drive you away........that would be tragic and I’m sure you can give as good as you get if push comes to shove in the debating/argument stakes......should that be necessary.
You are one of the few on here who have ‘some’ genuine first hand knowledge of
what’s taking place and I for one would like to thank you for sharing that info with us.
Kindly reconsider your position Dave and continue to post.
You do all know that don’t you
Fuck Roland fuck the Aussies fuck the takeover fuck anyone who wants to do anything except watch the boys bring the World Cup home
I'd make an offer, but I'd have to withdraw my bid for the Club, and we still need that on the table as a fall back position.
So at least I have some first hand knowledge, which leads me to believe they’re not crooks, whereas those who are starting this ‘the Aussies are dodgy’ / ‘something doesn’t smell right’ campaign know nothing, and at best are doing it based on what *they* are told.
If someone comes up with evidence, fine, but it’s all speculation @Stu_of_Kunming
in the real World its coming home
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
It’s a curious one as Andrew Muir certainly has the finance to close the deal at the drop of a hat ‘should he so wish’, the thing is he seems to be unwilling to do so as he evidently wants to spread the costs with further investors on board.
To say the Aussie consortium don’t have the money has ‘never’ really been the case....they most certainly do, in the figure of Andrew Muir alone, but he clearly is not going to spend it on a highly inflated valuation with some ‘possible’ muddy water in the background to boot.........well, not just yet anyway.
But if people are starting to put out that the Aussies are bent then they have to expect to be challenged as you well know. That is also part of the debate, as is evidence and speculation.