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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer.
    Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club.
    Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds.
    Over to you Roland.

    So it's all about the price?

    Or it's the director's loans?

    Or it that the Aussies don't have the funds?

    Which one @Davidsmith ?
    All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate.
    Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
  • This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer.
    Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club.
    Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds.
    Over to you Roland.

    So it's all about the price?

    Or it's the director's loans?

    Or it that the Aussies don't have the funds?

    Which one @Davidsmith ?
    All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate.
    Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
    So not "all about the price" then.
  • Just seems like there are too many obstacles to overcome for this takeover to go through . Looks like we're stuck with RD for a while yet sadly .
  • In this game of poker the Aussies have by far the best hand. Their only concern might be if another player joins the table. We wait for RD to fold. Being a stubborn old git he will probably hang on for a while yet, which in effect means the team/club will not be properly looked after.
  • edited July 2018
    Keohane is all over this Pistolet of Egg business. If he can crack it, it's PhD level for him.
  • In this game of poker the Aussies have by far the best hand.

    The fans have the worst hand. We keep being dealt 7-2 off-suit.
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  • There is nothing simple about this football club that's for sure.

    Got a sneaky feeling RD will be with us for some time yet.
  • edited July 2018

    This deal has always been about the price, Roland never understood the Ex Directors loans needed clearing if he was going to find a real buyer.
    Until he pays them off no buyer with a Business brain will buy the Club.
    Aussies as has been mentioned before do not have funds.
    Over to you Roland.

    So it's all about the price?

    Or it's the director's loans?

    Or it that the Aussies don't have the funds?

    Which one @Davidsmith ?
    All three, price has never included Directors Loans from Roland's perspective, but buyers want the charges removed and so that is a reduction in price to Roland,thus stalemate.
    Aussies apparently from multiple sources are cash short .
    Bollox. The loans were to the holding company with a repayment on reaching the Prem (Baton?) or else Murray would have his money now. Staprix bought Baton and are now selling it. RM gets his money when we are in the Prem unless someone stupidy repays him earlier. This is not a hurdle to the Ozzies. £7m to their £150m business plan or Prem gravy train is change at the back of the sofa.
  • Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.
  • Redhenry said:

    I don't like the idea of the Aussies, something ain't right.

    I agree that something isn't right but not convinced it's the Aussies.

    It might be them but if so why did all the other parties walk away?

    And who does all this briefing against the Aussies suit?

    Only Roland and Murray.
    How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


  • Redhenry said:

    I don't like the idea of the Aussies, something ain't right.

    I agree that something isn't right but not convinced it's the Aussies.

    It might be them but if so why did all the other parties walk away?

    And who does all this briefing against the Aussies suit?

    Only Roland and Murray.
    How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


    Agreed, the we've had 5 months of losses since the January transfer window closed which RD has had to cover.

    I doubt RD cares who buys us, he just wants the best price possible and the earliest date
  • Redhenry said:

    Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.

    Possible reasons others have walked away because:

    the price was too high for them.

    they felt it was too much for what was on offer

    Delays by Roland caused them to move on.

    Roland wanted to retain ownership of the Valley

    The training ground was vastly over valued as as almost finished rather than just started.

    DD turn up uncertainties from the Spivs era which buyers weren't happy with.

    Buyers wanted clear ownership and the old directors bonds muddied that.

    They didnt have any money

    Charlton's league one status wasn't what they wanted

    It's all CARD's fault.



  • How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


    You make the false assumption that RD is "rational." Arguments such as "this is costing him money!" or "he has no alternatives!" just are meaningless to him. After all, he bought without doing DD.
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  • How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


    You make the false assumption that RD is "rational." Arguments such as "this is costing him money!" or "he has no alternatives!" just are meaningless to him. After all, he bought without doing DD.
    No assumption. I just don’t see what the perceived benefit is for him in discrediting the Aussies.

    The post I replied to implied there is advantage to him. If so what ?


  • How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


    You make the false assumption that RD is "rational." Arguments such as "this is costing him money!" or "he has no alternatives!" just are meaningless to him. After all, he bought without doing DD.
    No assumption. I just don’t see what the perceived benefit is for him in discrediting the Aussies.

    The post I replied to implied there is advantage to him. If so what ?
    It shifts the blame for the delay/failure away from him.

    We know he doesn't "do failure" and he doesn't want, imho, to take the blame for his rushed DD, his huge losses or unreasonable price.

    So it's an easy one to blame the Aussies.

    Financially he'd be better off cutting his losses but his pride won't let him.
  • Redhenry said:

    Why have others walked away and they are still here? I don't have any inside info but it just smells wrong.

    Possible reasons others have walked away because:

    the price was too high for them.

    they felt it was too much for what was on offer

    Delays by Roland caused them to move on.

    Roland wanted to retain ownership of the Valley

    The training ground was vastly over valued as as almost finished rather than just started.

    DD turn up uncertainties from the Spivs era which buyers weren't happy with.

    Buyers wanted clear ownership and the old directors bonds muddied that.

    They didnt have any money

    Charlton's league one status wasn't what they wanted

    It's all CARD's fault.

    You forgot Brexit.
  • You're on MY list you vinegar pisser!

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  • How exactly does it benefit RD or RM? RD wants out; they are in play as potential buyers as per website.

    Losses mount every day.

    No benefit for RD in discrediting them and losing a sale.


    You make the false assumption that RD is "rational." Arguments such as "this is costing him money!" or "he has no alternatives!" just are meaningless to him. After all, he bought without doing DD.
    No assumption. I just don’t see what the perceived benefit is for him in discrediting the Aussies.

    The post I replied to implied there is advantage to him. If so what ?
    It shifts the blame for the delay/failure away from him.

    We know he doesn't "do failure" and he doesn't want, imho, to take the blame for his rushed DD, his huge losses or unreasonable price.

    So it's an easy one to blame the Aussies.

    Financially he'd be better off cutting his losses but his pride won't let him.
    So RD who cares not about supporters and their views now needs to question the deal in its entirety by suggesting the Aussies have no funds to complete the deal ?

    I still don't see why he would put this message out just to account for the delay. His interest surely is limiting losses not about what 'we' think about the time taken to conclude the deal.

    Likewise what's your rationale for RM being behind a suggestion the Aussie deal has no funding in place ?
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