@JamesSeed please remember this is a discussion forum, not a court of law.
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
@JamesSeed please remember this is a discussion forum, not a court of law.
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
I'm well aware of that mate, and in the absence of facts or genuine info it's inevitable.
But if people are starting to put out that the Aussies are bent then they have to expect to be challenged as you well know. That is also part of the debate, as is evidence and speculation.
Where has anyone said they are bent???
'There's a smell in the air' was one recent comment. 'Dodgy' would be a more commonly used word rather than bent... read through the thread and there are comments here and there that are designed to undermine their bid and make it look like theyre up to something.
All part of the debate though of course, but they're going to be challenged, and they are being, and not just by me.
I, like many others have been suspicious of the Australian bid for a while now.
If some of the rumours are true then I find their business sense a little bit bewildering. I also believe now they are short of ‘available funds’if you like.
It takes two to do the deal and we can’t doubt Roland’s part in this but I am not convinced the Aussies are the best thing for us right now, albeit they can’t be worse than Roland.
What is it about the Australian consortium that makes you think they're not "the best thing for us now"?
Is it because they're diligent, unlike Roland? Or because they don't want to chuck away millions without proper consideration, unlike Roland?
I personally don’t like the idea of having a number of investors, I fear it could get messy. I also don’t believe they have the funds to make us contenders to reach the Premiership unless further funding is found as they go along, again very messy.
I also found it surprising they went to the EFL knowing a couple of investors had conflicting interest in other clubs (if true).
Like others I am not convinced it is the right move for the club. Bottom line really is that there’s not enough knowledge to completely gauge one way for the other, it’s just my gut saying this isn’t the right deal for the club.
@JamesSeed please remember this is a discussion forum, not a court of law.
By nature it’s a vehicle for people to share their thoughts, rational or irrational, like they would chatting in the pub. Of course, there is a line in terms of law that should not be crossed when speaking of individuals, but people people are free to suppose and speculate (within reason) however they wish. Everything does not have to be backed with fact based evidence otherwise social media as whole just doesn’t work.
Silence in court, where were we?
Where we always were, where we may be for some time....or not as the case may be:
There may, or may not be a takeover going on There may be potential buyers or it may be just a wind up that’s morphed into a life of it’s own There is a club There is the Valley There is a team There is the start of a new season looming
Duchatelet: 'Use success of the Rode Duivels to reinvent Belgium.
Of all times it is during the World Cup Football, that he downsizes his fooballimperium. Because he rather invests in society problems. Breakfast with De Tijd.
What is a human being? Only an upgraded animal. So people make mistakes. I, like everybody. That is why you have to shield yourself emotionally when people write or say something to hurt you. How? I just wonder what their problem is.
Breakfast with De Tijd
Sint-Truiden, 8 am, in Grand Café Stayen.
PART2 TO FOLLOW
Conservative
But then there is "the system". As a politician you have to have enough votes. Which you don't get if you say things that insult people. (laughing) That is what I always did. And you are certainly not allowed to say anything innovative, because people in essence are conservative. Take the basic income. You cannot sell it politically, because it would make the people independant of political services rendered and that is the politicians' nightmare. People themselves would only realise how good it is, when it is there. So that is the paradox.
'If you do not innovate in business, you die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. That was frustrating sometimes, yes. An example: normally all those youngsters who are in Werchter (place in Belgium, where also 4 day pop festivals are organized. That was going on at the time) today, should have been in Brustem near Sint-Truiden. That deal was done, Herman Schueremans wanted that too, but the then sp.a-mayor (Ludwig Vandenhove, red.) stopped it because he feared I would come out there as a winner. That has been shot down purely for polical reasons. The socialists have got their pawns everywhere, also at De Lijn and at Wegen en Verkeer (equivalent of Highway services). So yes, it is correct that the sossen (socialists) work against many things. But the N-VA unfortunately is not the solution. Because you will get the aged fighter planes, without social security and a divided country. Which is silly. The opportunity that offers the success of the Rode Duivels, should be used now to reinvent Belgium. Make English the official language and let everybody as well use their own language without concern.
There are plenty of ideas, but the politics is history. Question is: would a succesful entrepreneur put all those ideas and energy - and may be his own money - into a NGO (non-government organisation)?
'Most people with great wealth who I know, also have a social side. I support some people who are struggling. But too many people think that a rich guy can replace social security and has time to learn about their problems. That is not so. But there are three projects I am helping forward. One: Wikipedia. Because free spreading of knowledge in the world is extremely important. Two: Transparency International, an organisation that fights corruption. And three: BIEN, that stands for Basic Income European Network.'
We were with five children at home, he then says. My father was an officer with the Military Police and my parents found it important that we would know about it. My brother Alain, who passed away six months ago, became a colonel in the Military Police. One sister taught all her life, one brother went in private and another became military. Especially sense of responsibility were found important by my parents. I am trying to teach that to my six children.
Somebody who is 71, could be thinking of retirement. He doesn't do that. "Stopping is not as easy for an entrepreneur. My added value is, that I understand rather well how the world economy works. Not many people do that, and you cannot just pass that knowledge on.
Somebody who is 71, can also look back. Far even. Were his realizations and his activities, until today, at amongst others Melexis, X-FAB and in the horeca (hotels, restaurants, cafés) around Stayen a dream of his youth? Not at all, he says. I wanted to play and have friends. My only ambition was to be happy. And that is still the case.
I really don’t get any of the negative stuff about the Aussies. At the moment they are the only people in the game that RD is playing. Where are all the other parties queuing up to buy us? The Scottish mob walked away, the Arabs walked away, the British group is just a figure of some weirdos imagination. KM drove away Varney’s group and poisoned Roland against them. The Aussies are our only chance to get rid of Roland. They have told James Seed they have the funding in place to purchase the Club and fund it for five years. Are they lying? Maybe, but I’d suggest not. The alternative is Roland and we know he’s lied and he has run the Club into the ground into the process. Of the two options I am 100% behind the Aussies.
Roland famously didn’t do due diligence and yet some are now questioning the Aussies business savvy. Really? At least they have done everything properly and in doing so have uncovered stuff that Roland wasn’t even aware of. Stuff that wasn’t of Roland’s making but his stuff now. Quite rightly it’s his mess to sort out.
People bemoan the fact they have been in the picture for over a year but can’t get a deal done but it’s obviously much more complicated than anyone ever imagined and it’s unearthed problems and maybe even illegal irregularities. Don’t forget in the recent Jiminez/Slater/Cash court case the judge couldn’t get to the bottom which, if any of them, owned the Club. Yet this is the fault of the Aussies.
I am surprised that like many others they haven’t walked away but I’m very glad they haven’t and that fact endears them to me even more. Let’s hope this nightmare ends soon.
I really don’t get any of the negative stuff about the Aussies. At the moment they are the only people in the game that RD is playing. Where are all the other parties queuing up to buy us? The Scottish mob walked away, the Arabs walked away, the British group is just a figure of some weirdos imagination. KM drove away Varney’s group and poisoned Roland against them. The Aussies are our only chance to get rid of Roland. They have told James Seed they have the funding in place to purchase the Club and fund it for five years. Are they lying? Maybe, but I’d suggest not. The alternative is Roland and we know he’s lied and he has run the Club into the ground into the process. Of the two options I am 100% behind the Aussies.
Roland famously didn’t do due diligence and yet some are now questioning the Aussies business savvy. Really? At least they have done everything properly and in doing so have uncovered stuff that Roland wasn’t even aware of. Stuff that wasn’t of Roland’s making but his stuff now. Quite rightly it’s his mess to sort out.
People bemoan the fact they have been in the picture for over a year but can’t get a deal done but it’s obviously much more complicated than anyone ever imagined and it’s unearthed problems and maybe even illegal irregularities. Don’t forget in the recent Jiminez/Slater/Cash court case the judge couldn’t get to the bottom which, if any of them, owned the Club. Yet this is the fault of the Aussies.
I am surprised that like many others they haven’t walked away but I’m very glad they haven’t and that fact endears them to me even more. Let’s hope this nightmare ends soon.
This. I am very happy that the Aussies are persistent and not caving in to probable unreasonable demands from RD. In fact I am so happy with them that I will bung them £500 on purchase of the club, with my first season ticket for 3 years.
This discussion may be the epicentre of Addicks' football world, but could we not pause for a few moments to think about the Thai lads' team stuck in their cave - today the rescuers will try to bring them out. Incredibly brave young guys. Hopefully they should all be coming home (sadly one rescuer already died the other day).
But what's this nonsense about football coming home? As far as I'm concerned it's never been away - we've just lent it out from time to time.
There are legitimate questions to be asked about the Aussie and doubts about them exist well beyond people posting on message boards, but it’s also worth remembering they are the only interested party which has made any attempt to communicate and engage with fans, via mainstream media, as well as @Jamesseed. That of itself gives people more to pick apart.
Suppose the “British bidder” turns out to be an underfunded Murray renting The Valley from Duchatelet - contradicting his own words. Wouldn’t there be questions about that? Or about Saudis, with all the baggage attached to that country? Yet because those interests have never fronted up - in the way most serious buyers of football clubs do actually show themselves - people are heavily focused on picking the Aussies apart, not the possible alternatives.
I have no idea if the Aussies are “right for the club” but we’re not judges at a beauty parade. The owner is a nutcase and his fellow director is a self-serving egotist who alienated many of those who sat round the boardroom table with him for years to the point where they despise him. He has since shown himself willing to collude with dishonest and delusional successors even after the point where suspected criminality was alleged directly to him by fellow board members and the club is pushed to the point of potential destruction by crazy decision-making.
Duchatelet: 'Use success of the Rode Duivels to reinvent Belgium.
Of all times it is during the World Cup Football, that he downsizes his fooballimperium. Because he rather invests in society problems. Breakfast with De Tijd.
What is a human being? Only an upgraded animal. So people make mistakes. I, like everybody. That is why you have to shield yourself emotionally when people write or say something to hurt you. How? I just wonder what their problem is.
Breakfast with De Tijd
Sint-Truiden, 8 am, in Grand Café Stayen.
PART2 TO FOLLOW
Conservative
But then there is "the system". As a politician you have to have enough votes. Which you don't get if you say things that insult people. (laughing) That is what I always did. And you are certainly not allowed to say anything innovative, because people in essence are conservative. Take the basic income. You cannot sell it politically, because it would make the people independant of political services rendered and that is the politicians' nightmare. People themselves would only realise how good it is, when it is there. So that is the paradox.
'If you do not innovate in business, you die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. That was frustrating sometimes, yes. An example: normally all those youngsters who are in Werchter (place in Belgium, where also 4 day pop festivals are organized. That was going on at the time) today, should have been in Brustem near Sint-Truiden. That deal was done, Herman Schueremans wanted that too, but the then sp.a-mayor (Ludwig Vandenhove, red.) stopped it because he feared I would come out there as a winner. That has been shot down purely for polical reasons. The socialists have got their pawns everywhere, also at De Lijn and at Wegen en Verkeer (equivalent of Highway services). So yes, it is correct that the sossen (socialists) work against many things. But the N-VA unfortunately is not the solution. Because you will get the aged fighter planes, without social security and a divided country. Which is silly. The opportunity that offers the success of the Rode Duivels, should be used now to reinvent Belgium. Make English the official language and let everybody as well use their own language without concern.
There are plenty of ideas, but the politics is history. Question is: would a succesful entrepreneur put all those ideas and energy - and may be his own money - into a NGO (non-government organisation)?
'Most people with great wealth who I know, also have a social side. I support some people who are struggling. But too many people think that a rich guy can replace social security and has time to learn about their problems. That is not so. But there are three projects I am helping forward. One: Wikipedia. Because free spreading of knowledge in the world is extremely important. Two: Transparency International, an organisation that fights corruption. And three: BIEN, that stands for Basic Income European Network.'
We were with five children at home, he then says. My father was an officer with the Military Police and my parents found it important that we would know about it. My brother Alain, who passed away six months ago, became a colonel in the Military Police. One sister taught all her life, one brother went in private and another became military. Especially sense of responsibility were found important by my parents. I am trying to teach that to my six children.
Somebody who is 71, could be thinking of retirement. He doesn't do that. "Stopping is not as easy for an entrepreneur. My added value is, that I understand rather well how the world economy works. Not many people do that, and you cannot just pass that knowledge on.
Somebody who is 71, can also look back. Far even. Were his realizations and his activities, until today, at amongst others Melexis, X-FAB and in the horeca (hotels, restaurants, cafés) around Stayen a dream of his youth? Not at all, he says. I wanted to play and have friends. My only ambition was to be happy. And that is still the case.
The coffee has gone cold.
Thanks very much for your work in translating this @Lewis Coaches I note that you haven't got any likes for this yet. I suspect this is because of the rambling nonsense that our antihero speaks rather than any lack of appreciation of your efforts.
Actually have had Scottish family who are usually happily ABE twats and quick to rejoice in anything negative, saying well done, hope England reach the final, we like the players and the manager, Good young team etc............... I'm not sure how I feel about it though, just doesn't feel right.
Meanwhile, the question remains unanswered of who is running things at our club at this moment in time ?
We know that Bow & JJ are beavering away with the meagre squad they have inherited despite the nonsense playing out behind the scenes ...or rather not playing out.
Who authorised the training camp in Portugal & agreed to fund it ?
How much longer will it be before RD is forced to engage a CEO & FD and more pertinently, fork out for additional players?
Surely the time is nigh for him to take action before the crumbling walls of our football club threaten to implode & he is forced to don his tin hat before exiting the building .
Actually have had Scottish family who are usually happily ABE twats and quick to rejoice in anything negative, saying well done, hope England reach the final, we like the players and the manager, Good young team etc............... I'm not sure how I feel about it though, just doesn't feel right.
TBF, from distant memory I usually like to see Scottish teams do well though after they’ve self destructed around about 10 minutes into a game I turn the channel over but if they ever do manage to get to a major championship again and progress I too am happy to wish them well...mind you, I suspect I’d be also be lumping some money on them crashing out next game
The one thing that has worried be me throughout all of this with the Aussies are why they are so prepared to meet RD asking price. The club is worth so little and that is declining the more we have RD in charge
My thoughts entirely. As a lifelong Charlton fan there's no way I'd consider paying anything like Duchatelet's inflated price, even if I had Muir's money. The deluded one is keen on bigging himself up: "My added value is, that I understand rather well how the world economy works. Not many people do that, and you cannot just pass that knowledge on", but the bottom line is that he cocked up massively. He bought a club he didn't understand, in a league he didn't understand, in a sport he didn't understand, in a country he didn't understand from some decidedly shady people who did their damnedest to stop anyone understanding. He thought he was too big and clever to get matters checked out properly and when he had control of the club, he staffed it with people who didn't understand their jobs. We then had four years of intransigence as he denied there was a problem. The poor shape of the club and its finances lie fairly and squarely on his shoulders. Whoever buys it will assume responsibility for getting the club back on its feet, but the financial losses are his responsibility in entirety. Sadly, he doesn't seem to recognise this yet so he'll continue to lose money month in, month out. As much as I want him to sell up and get out of our lives as quickly as possible, there's another side to my thinking that says I don't want incoming buyers to do so at any cost. In some ways, I'd rather see the Aussies walk away and demonstrate some financial prudence whist waiting for the freaky old dentist dodger to see sense. They can come back when he's realised the folly of his self-inflicted failings and decided to take on the responsibility for them.
I think the heat is getting to some people. What I say is enjoy the weather, enjoy the World Cup, enjoy time with family and friends, take a break from all things Charlton #TeamWIOTOS
I'm another one who doesn't get the negativity being thrown at the Aussies (who, can I remind everyone, are our only possible saviours from the Belgian nightmare that we continue to endure)….
RD: Okay chaps, I've made a proper mess of this footy business and thrown a ton of cash down the shitter, but I don't want to take responsibility for my actions, my narcissism simply won't allow it. So, I'd like you to reimburse me in full for all my losses, plus I'd also like to you to chuck in a bit more just to puff up my ego a bit so that I can continue to pretend to myself that I haven't failed. Deal?
Team Oz: Erm, OK, if it gets you gone, let's do it.
RD: Oh, and by the way, because I was too tight and stupid to do proper DD, I also screwed up on that and didn't realise there was an additional chunk of debt owed to ex Directors, so I'd like you to pay that off as well. Ok?
Team Oz: Well, you were taking the piss with your price in the first place, but now you want us to bend over as well. Are you insane? Everyone has their limits - your mistake, you pay for it. Keep losing cash and come back to us when you return to your senses.
RD: I can't believe you would hold up the deal like that - why won't you pay? Don't you have the money? If you don't pony up the cash, then I'll just sell to the British consortium that my friend Richard has assured me are waiting in the wings and in the meantime I'll tell everyone that you are skint and that's the reason the deal can't proceed. Richard!
Team Oz: FFS
Why should Team Oz go along with RD's delusion and goalpost shifting? He bought the club for a knockdown price, and because of his fuckwittery, it is now worth a fraction of that. He needs to get his head into the real world and then a deal can happen.
I am fed up with worrying about takeovers, I was fed up with Roly a long time ago, England have reached a semi final for only the third time in lifetime (1990, 1996 and now 2018). enjoy it people.
Give this a rest until either we are triumphant or have been knocked out. NWATUATWC (No Worrying About Takeovers Until After The World Cup)
I'm another one who doesn't get the negativity being thrown at the Aussies (who, can I remind everyone, are our only possible saviours from the Belgian nightmare that we continue to endure)….
RD: Okay chaps, I've made a proper mess of this footy business and thrown a ton of cash down the shitter, but I don't want to take responsibility for my actions, my narcissism simply won't allow it. So, I'd like you to reimburse me in full for all my losses, plus I'd also like to you to chuck in a bit more just to puff up my ego a bit so that I can continue to pretend to myself that I haven't failed. Deal?
Team Oz: Erm, OK, if it gets you gone, let's do it.
RD: Oh, and by the way, because I was too tight and stupid to do proper DD, I also screwed up on that and didn't realise there was an additional chunk of debt owed to ex Directors, so I'd like you to pay that off as well. Ok?
Team Oz: Well, you were taking the piss with your price in the first place, but now you want us to bend over as well. Are you insane? Everyone has their limits - your mistake, you pay for it. Keep losing cash and come back to us when you return to your senses.
RD: I can't believe you would hold up the deal like that - why won't you pay? Don't you have the money? If you don't pony up the cash, then I'll just sell to the British consortium that my friend Richard has assured me are waiting in the wings and in the meantime I'll tell everyone that you are skint and that's the reason the deal can't proceed. Richard!
Team Oz: FFS
Why should Team Oz go along with RD's delusion and goalpost shifting? He bought the club for a knockdown price, and because of his fuckwittery, it is now worth a fraction of that. He needs to get his head into the real world and then a deal can happen.
Just my point of view folks
But that doesn't mean they're gonna be the right people though does it. Remember RD was the answer to the last nightmare for about a week or two.
I think EVERY Charlton fan wants the Rat out, but to me, there's something not right with this lot because of things already explained before
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
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I also found it surprising they went to the EFL knowing a couple of investors had conflicting interest in other clubs (if true).
Like others I am not convinced it is the right move for the club. Bottom line really is that there’s not enough knowledge to completely gauge one way for the other, it’s just my gut saying this isn’t the right deal for the club.
There may, or may not be a takeover going on
There may be potential buyers or it may be just a wind up that’s morphed into a life of it’s own
There is a club
There is the Valley
There is a team
There is the start of a new season looming
But then there is "the system". As a politician you have to have enough votes. Which you don't get if you say things that insult people. (laughing) That is what I always did. And you are certainly not allowed to say anything innovative, because people in essence are conservative. Take the basic income. You cannot sell it politically, because it would make the people independant of political services rendered and that is the politicians' nightmare. People themselves would only realise how good it is, when it is there. So that is the paradox.
'If you do not innovate in business, you die. If you do not innovate in politics, you survive. That was frustrating sometimes, yes. An example: normally all those youngsters who are in Werchter (place in Belgium, where also 4 day pop festivals are organized. That was going on at the time) today, should have been in Brustem near Sint-Truiden. That deal was done, Herman Schueremans wanted that too, but the then sp.a-mayor (Ludwig Vandenhove, red.) stopped it because he feared I would come out there as a winner. That has been shot down purely for polical reasons.
The socialists have got their pawns everywhere, also at De Lijn and at Wegen en Verkeer (equivalent of Highway services). So yes, it is correct that the sossen (socialists) work against many things. But the N-VA unfortunately is not the solution. Because you will get the aged fighter planes, without social security and a divided country. Which is silly. The opportunity that offers the success of the Rode Duivels, should be used now to reinvent Belgium. Make English the official language and let everybody as well use their own language without concern.
There are plenty of ideas, but the politics is history. Question is: would a succesful entrepreneur put all those ideas and energy - and may be his own money - into a NGO (non-government organisation)?
'Most people with great wealth who I know, also have a social side. I support some people who are struggling. But too many people think that a rich guy can replace social security and has time to learn about their problems. That is not so. But there are three projects I am helping forward. One: Wikipedia. Because free spreading of knowledge in the world is extremely important. Two: Transparency International, an organisation that fights corruption. And three: BIEN, that stands for Basic Income European Network.'
We were with five children at home, he then says. My father was an officer with the Military Police and my parents found it important that we would know about it. My brother Alain, who passed away six months ago, became a colonel in the Military Police. One sister taught all her life, one brother went in private and another became military. Especially sense of responsibility were found important by my parents. I am trying to teach that to my six children.
Somebody who is 71, could be thinking of retirement. He doesn't do that. "Stopping is not as easy for an entrepreneur. My added value is, that I understand rather well how the world economy works. Not many people do that, and you cannot just pass that knowledge on.
Somebody who is 71, can also look back. Far even. Were his realizations and his activities, until today, at amongst others Melexis, X-FAB and in the horeca (hotels, restaurants, cafés) around Stayen a dream of his youth? Not at all, he says. I wanted to play and have friends. My only ambition was to be happy. And that is still the case.
The coffee has gone cold.
Roland famously didn’t do due diligence and yet some are now questioning the Aussies business savvy. Really? At least they have done everything properly and in doing so have uncovered stuff that Roland wasn’t even aware of. Stuff that wasn’t of Roland’s making but his stuff now. Quite rightly it’s his mess to sort out.
People bemoan the fact they have been in the picture for over a year but can’t get a deal done but it’s obviously much more complicated than anyone ever imagined and it’s unearthed problems and maybe even illegal irregularities. Don’t forget in the recent Jiminez/Slater/Cash court case the judge couldn’t get to the bottom which, if any of them, owned the Club. Yet this is the fault of the Aussies.
I am surprised that like many others they haven’t walked away but I’m very glad they haven’t and that fact endears them to me even more. Let’s hope this nightmare ends soon.
This discussion may be the epicentre of Addicks' football world, but could we not pause for a few moments to think about the Thai lads' team stuck in their cave - today the rescuers will try to bring them out. Incredibly brave young guys. Hopefully they should all be coming home (sadly one rescuer already died the other day).
But what's this nonsense about football coming home? As far as I'm concerned it's never been away - we've just lent it out from time to time.
Sorry - time-out over. Takeover talk may resume.
We are in the World Cup semi final
We have endured as Charlton fans a huge decline in footballing enjoyment
As an England fan it has mirrored that pain but for even longer
Fuck Roland
Fuck the take over
Fuck the Aussies
To a degree fuck Charlton
Enjoy the next 4 days till kick off then in 7 days time let’s all talk about how unreal it is that we are in the World Cup final
Then for the next 52 years let’s talk about where we were when we won the World Cup
Take that in for a moment think about it your all football fans the pinnacle is not Charlton it is England being world champions
The take over has consumed too many words too many pages on this forum
Fuck it off for a week Dan close the bastd thing
Suppose the “British bidder” turns out to be an underfunded Murray renting The Valley from Duchatelet - contradicting his own words. Wouldn’t there be questions about that? Or about Saudis, with all the baggage attached to that country? Yet because those interests have never fronted up - in the way most serious buyers of football clubs do actually show themselves - people are heavily focused on picking the Aussies apart, not the possible alternatives.
I have no idea if the Aussies are “right for the club” but we’re not judges at a beauty parade. The owner is a nutcase and his fellow director is a self-serving egotist who alienated many of those who sat round the boardroom table with him for years to the point where they despise him. He has since shown himself willing to collude with dishonest and delusional successors even after the point where suspected criminality was alleged directly to him by fellow board members and the club is pushed to the point of potential destruction by crazy decision-making.
The Australians are not the issue.
Don’t be daft, we need this thread to take our minds off waiting for the semi-final...
This thread will soar past 2,000 pages by Wednesday night now
Actually have had Scottish family who are usually happily ABE twats and quick to rejoice in anything negative, saying well done, hope England reach the final, we like the players and the manager, Good young team etc............... I'm not sure how I feel about it though, just doesn't feel right.
We know that Bow & JJ are beavering away with the meagre squad they have inherited despite the nonsense playing out behind the scenes ...or rather not playing out.
Who authorised the training camp in Portugal & agreed to fund it ?
How much longer will it be before RD is forced to engage a CEO & FD and more pertinently, fork out for additional players?
Surely the time is nigh for him to take action before the crumbling walls of our football club threaten to implode & he is forced to don his tin hat before exiting the building .
RD: Okay chaps, I've made a proper mess of this footy business and thrown a ton of cash down the shitter, but I don't want to take responsibility for my actions, my narcissism simply won't allow it. So, I'd like you to reimburse me in full for all my losses, plus I'd also like to you to chuck in a bit more just to puff up my ego a bit so that I can continue to pretend to myself that I haven't failed. Deal?
Team Oz: Erm, OK, if it gets you gone, let's do it.
RD: Oh, and by the way, because I was too tight and stupid to do proper DD, I also screwed up on that and didn't realise there was an additional chunk of debt owed to ex Directors, so I'd like you to pay that off as well. Ok?
Team Oz: Well, you were taking the piss with your price in the first place, but now you want us to bend over as well. Are you insane? Everyone has their limits - your mistake, you pay for it. Keep losing cash and come back to us when you return to your senses.
RD: I can't believe you would hold up the deal like that - why won't you pay? Don't you have the money? If you don't pony up the cash, then I'll just sell to the British consortium that my friend Richard has assured me are waiting in the wings and in the meantime I'll tell everyone that you are skint and that's the reason the deal can't proceed. Richard!
Team Oz: FFS
Why should Team Oz go along with RD's delusion and goalpost shifting? He bought the club for a knockdown price, and because of his fuckwittery, it is now worth a fraction of that. He needs to get his head into the real world and then a deal can happen.
Just my point of view folks
Give this a rest until either we are triumphant or have been knocked out.
NWATUATWC (No Worrying About Takeovers Until After The World Cup)
I think EVERY Charlton fan wants the Rat out, but to me, there's something not right with this lot because of things already explained before
In those days, most of us believed what we were told by him.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.