Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
I agree, but you will see I was referring to the posters point that they would always take the alternative over Roland. I don’t share that view personally, just because we need Roland out doesn’t mean we should be happy with anyone.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
I agree none of us on here have a crystal ball, and one or two involved with the takeover have no balls
I don’t think we have any say in who owns the club. We can complain, protest or get behind the owners but if Putin, Kim jong-un or Li Keqiang decided they wanted to buy us, they could.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Okay, so the hold up is purely down to nasty RD because he's so desperate to sell
Only thing for sure going on regards the takeover, no one knows what the hells going on, I am all for supposition, guess work, Murrays tales, and even Fairy Stories, but none of us know for sure whats happening. We are all peeing up a dark alley, no one truely knows whats going on.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Okay, so the hold up is purely down to nasty RD because he's so desperate to sell
I've not said that. The Aussies are offering good money for a product. They're absolutely right to query any issues they come across.
Did none of your customers who had their papers delivered question the bill?
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Okay, so the hold up is purely down to nasty RD because he's so desperate to sell
That is not what the issue is of what is holding up this takeover, has nothing to do with potential investors and nothing to do with asking price.
As has been said by many on here time and time again, there are obviously underlining issues that need to be/is being/has been resolved before we can move forward.
If people think the Aussie’s are slowing things down they’re mad, they’re obviously serious so although they’re patient, if you think they wouldn’t prefer to be in charge of the club running it the way they want to by now, you’re wrong.
It is probably too late to get my two season tickets now seeing as how it depends on a takeover.
Deadlines are:
Special games. Starts of seasons Reporting back for training. Ends of transfer windows. Ends of months Ends of financial years ...amongst others.
Last two season without any season tickets my connection with my club was to pay for Valley Pass. I could write here at least a dozen very specific reasons why I think Valley Pass, even at £60, is a total rip off run by inconsistent and self indulgent individuals, in a self indulgent and inconsistent way, so for me that is another £60 saved which is spent now on the ifollow services.
I have been welded to Charlton Athletic all my life, but now feel so alienated, and indeed hated by my club it leads to despair and feelings of vengeance.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Okay, so the hold up is purely down to nasty RD because he's so desperate to sell
That is not what the issue is of what is holding up this takeover, has nothing to do with potential investors and nothing to do with asking price.
As has been said by many on here time and time again, there are obviously underlining issues that need to be/is being/has been resolved before we can move forward.
If people think the Aussie’s are slowing things down they’re mad, they’re obviously serious so although they’re patient, if you think they wouldn’t prefer to be in charge of the club running it the way they want to by now, you’re wrong.
So you don't think it's "mad" that someone is paying over £40 million for Charlton then?
And the £7 million charge on the club is not the issue, even though it's been said by a few people that it is.
I don't doubt they want to be running the Club by now so I can't be wrong on
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
And who exactly is that?
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Okay, so the hold up is purely down to nasty RD because he's so desperate to sell
I've not said that. The Aussies are offering good money for a product. They're absolutely right to query any issues they come across.
Did none of your customers who had their papers delivered question the bill?
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
World Cup '66. My grandad went and died on the day of the Mexico match in the group stages, the 16th July. Watched the final with my mum, my granny and her two sisters (who were visiting from the north east for the funeral), and my sister. I remember it really clearly to this day. My sister's boyfriend came round to the Seed house after the final, and gave me the programme, which I still have.
Sorry for going off thread.
If we're having random posts in this thread about our grandads here's mine.
My grandad died in 1964. He was Welsh and not interested in association football. But my Uncle John went to the Final and gave me his programme.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
Regarding the alleged consortium members who left the table - Did this not happen at all, or did 2 people pull out, but it was nothing to do with breaking EFL rules?
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
As I said before, perhaps they did and were expecting RD to have settled it before now.
I’m thinking @Airman Brown is the only person who can answer this but is there a second “British” group lurking or are the Aussies the only turkey in the shop ?
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
Rob, if I was buying Charlton why on earth would I not expect to get a clean title on the business and its property I was buying! No way can this issue be put at the Aussies door imo. Sorry mate but your barking up the wrong tree.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
As I said before, perhaps they did and were expecting RD to have settled it before now.
But then a price cant have been a agreed, even approximate, as no one knew who was liable for them. Even more strange
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
As I said before, perhaps they did and were expecting RD to have settled it before now.
But then a price cant have been a agreed, even approximate, as no one new who was liable for them. Even more strange
It is Rolands debt, he accepted the charges, knowingly or otherwise.
Fair point, Ibborg, none of us have a crystal ball.
As far as I can see, members of Team Oz, such as Muir, appear to have integrity and good judgement based on what they have done in their careers so far - and this is all that we can, and should, judge them on. So, when looking at RD's record with our club, it is unarguable (unless you are a member of one of the other sites, it appears) that RD has been a disaster for our club with a reverse Midas touch. Therefore, it is fair to speculate that he will continue to be one. As such, I want him gone.
But when it comes to RD or an alternative, I will go for the alternative every time.
So, as Blackpool so succinctly puts it: 'Roland, just sell the club and....' you can guess the rest.
Fair point but I have to agree with Ibborg. Just because Roland is such a shit owner doesn’t mean we should just swap him for anybody. Of course even if the replacement is marginally better then it’s progress, but that’s not saying anything because we are nearly at rock bottom.
All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
How will we know when it’s the “right people”? What will we do to stop others in the meantime?
Well a good start would be to give a second look at and ask questions of people who. -
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
How do you know they didn't know/ignored EFL rules?
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
They're both opinions mate and we're both entitled to have them, but don't you think that things like charges on the Club is something that a consortium worth half its salt shoulda picked up on the the opening stages of negotiations? We know what owners are like, who aren't very thorough and don't pick up on such things, we've already got one
Rob, if I was buying Charlton why on earth would I not expect to get a clean title on the business and its property I was buying! No way can this issue be put at the Aussies door imo. Sorry mate but your barking up the wrong tree.
So why is everyone slagging RD off for suposing it werent his debt when he took over?
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All well and good wanting Roland out but no real point if the successors are nearly as bad. I would personally prefer to wait and have the right people in then still be in a shit position.
Sorry for going off thread.
- Don't know / ignore the rules of not owning shares or having interests in more than one football club.
- Get to the point of completion before talking about who is liable for a debt the is equal to nearly 20% of the reported sale price.
Pure supposition and not something that was raised as an issue by my contact at the EFL.
Let’s hope for good news next week.
Did none of your customers who had their papers delivered question the bill?
As has been said by many on here time and time again, there are obviously underlining issues that need to be/is being/has been resolved before we can move forward.
If people think the Aussie’s are slowing things down they’re mad, they’re obviously serious so although they’re patient, if you think they wouldn’t prefer to be in charge of the club running it the way they want to by now, you’re wrong.
Deadlines are:
Special games.
Starts of seasons
Reporting back for training.
Ends of transfer windows.
Ends of months
Ends of financial years
...amongst others.
Last two season without any season tickets my connection with my club was to pay for Valley Pass.
I could write here at least a dozen very specific reasons why I think Valley Pass, even at £60, is a total rip off run by inconsistent and self indulgent individuals, in a self indulgent and inconsistent way, so for me that is another £60 saved which is spent now on the ifollow services.
I have been welded to Charlton Athletic all my life, but now feel so alienated, and indeed hated by my club it leads to despair and feelings of vengeance.
And the £7 million charge on the club is not the issue, even though it's been said by a few people that it is.
I don't doubt they want to be running the Club by now so I can't be wrong on
If they have made an offer for clean title of the football club, maybe they were expecting Roland to have settled the outstanding charges before the point of completion.
This is just an opinion by the way, you seem to be more in th know than me.
My grandad died in 1964. He was Welsh and not interested in association football. But my Uncle John went to the Final and gave me his programme.