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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • edited July 2018

    I have it on good authority that one of the consortium is Aussie businessman Edward K**g who is a huge bloke. The sticking point is that an anagram of Roland Duchatelet is 'cheat round tall Ted' and Muir wants Roly to change his name by deedpoll as it omens bad luck.

    Really HG? Because i have read some real horse shite on here...
  • @i_b_b_o_r_g they def existed mate they may now have been sorted I have not asked nor spoken about it .

    The charges are an ongoing issue and have been for months

    I am gutted @Davidsmith has been chased off from here as he always posted very reliable snipets and imo yesterday his posts were disected to read in a totally different way to how he posted them

    What I don’t get is if RD wants out and the Aussies want in why a compromise between the two can’t be sort

    Yes, but that relies on the somewhat questionable assumption that RD is a reasonable, rational individual.

    Remember, this is the man who thinks he can buy an asset at a knock-down price, totally fuck it up beyond recognition and then sell for multiple times the price he bought it for....I'm not optimistic myself!
    But then the Aussies are unknown quantity when it come all the above as well.
  • @i_b_b_o_r_g they def existed mate they may now have been sorted I have not asked nor spoken about it .

    The charges are an ongoing issue and have been for months

    I am gutted @Davidsmith has been chased off from here as he always posted very reliable snipets and imo yesterday his posts were disected to read in a totally different way to how he posted them

    What I don’t get is if RD wants out and the Aussies want in why a compromise between the two can’t be sort

    Yes, but that relies on the somewhat questionable assumption that RD is a reasonable, rational individual.

    Remember, this is the man who thinks he can buy an asset at a knock-down price, totally fuck it up beyond recognition and then sell for multiple times the price he bought it for....I'm not optimistic myself!
    But then the Aussies are unknown quantity when it come all the above as well.
    Every potential buyer is an unknown quantity.
  • edited July 2018
    alangee said:

    @i_b_b_o_r_g they def existed mate they may now have been sorted I have not asked nor spoken about it .

    The charges are an ongoing issue and have been for months

    I am gutted @Davidsmith has been chased off from here as he always posted very reliable snipets and imo yesterday his posts were disected to read in a totally different way to how he posted them

    What I don’t get is if RD wants out and the Aussies want in why a compromise between the two can’t be sort

    Yes, but that relies on the somewhat questionable assumption that RD is a reasonable, rational individual.

    Remember, this is the man who thinks he can buy an asset at a knock-down price, totally fuck it up beyond recognition and then sell for multiple times the price he bought it for....I'm not optimistic myself!
    But then the Aussies are unknown quantity when it come all the above as well.
    Every potential buyer is an unknown quantity.
    Well there you go, so we're okay to carry on questioning the Golden Consortium then until they prove otherwise
  • I have it on good authority that one of the consortium is Aussie businessman Edward K**g who is a huge bloke. The sticking point is that an anagram of Roland Duchatelet is 'cheat round tall Ted' and Muir wants Roly to change his name by deedpoll as it omens bad luck.

    Really HG? Because i have read some real horse shite on here...
    So have I but this post is not the most far fetched.
  • alangee said:

    @i_b_b_o_r_g they def existed mate they may now have been sorted I have not asked nor spoken about it .

    The charges are an ongoing issue and have been for months

    I am gutted @Davidsmith has been chased off from here as he always posted very reliable snipets and imo yesterday his posts were disected to read in a totally different way to how he posted them

    What I don’t get is if RD wants out and the Aussies want in why a compromise between the two can’t be sort

    Yes, but that relies on the somewhat questionable assumption that RD is a reasonable, rational individual.

    Remember, this is the man who thinks he can buy an asset at a knock-down price, totally fuck it up beyond recognition and then sell for multiple times the price he bought it for....I'm not optimistic myself!
    But then the Aussies are unknown quantity when it come all the above as well.
    Every potential buyer is an unknown quantity.
    Well there you go, so we're okay to carry on questioning the Golden Consortium then until they prove otherwise
    Who said you shouldn't question them?
  • Round and round we go
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    Continue until bored.
  • And Oh don’t you know, this is the game that we came here for....
  • alangee said:

    alangee said:

    @i_b_b_o_r_g they def existed mate they may now have been sorted I have not asked nor spoken about it .

    The charges are an ongoing issue and have been for months

    I am gutted @Davidsmith has been chased off from here as he always posted very reliable snipets and imo yesterday his posts were disected to read in a totally different way to how he posted them

    What I don’t get is if RD wants out and the Aussies want in why a compromise between the two can’t be sort

    Yes, but that relies on the somewhat questionable assumption that RD is a reasonable, rational individual.

    Remember, this is the man who thinks he can buy an asset at a knock-down price, totally fuck it up beyond recognition and then sell for multiple times the price he bought it for....I'm not optimistic myself!
    But then the Aussies are unknown quantity when it come all the above as well.
    Every potential buyer is an unknown quantity.
    Well there you go, so we're okay to carry on questioning the Golden Consortium then until they prove otherwise
    Who said you shouldn't question them?
    Everytime i do it gets scoffed at
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  • In some other countries it is common to take on someone else's debts and pay their loans. In Sweden where I'm looking to buy, it is common to advertise a house for sale with the details of the mortgage held against the property which may be passed from seller to buyer, with the rest of the purchase price taken on a second mortgage.
  • The house anology is back ;0)
  • In some other countries it is common to take on someone else's debts and pay their loans. In Sweden where I'm looking to buy, it is common to advertise a house for sale with the details of the mortgage held against the property which may be passed from seller to buyer, with the rest of the purchase price taken on a second mortgage.

    I reckon they're trying to turn you over after yesterday's result.

    Get yourself a good brief.

  • In some other countries it is common to take on someone else's debts and pay their loans. In Sweden where I'm looking to buy, it is common to advertise a house for sale with the details of the mortgage held against the property which may be passed from seller to buyer, with the rest of the purchase price taken on a second mortgage.

    Boras is cheap.
  • edited July 2018

    Hats off to @i_b_b_o_r_g for persistence!

    When The Boomerangs move from the Ayers Rock Stadium in Floyd Rd to the Digereedoo Stadium on the Peninsula, he can say 'told you so' ;-)
  • JamesSeed said:


    Hats off to @i_b_b_o_r_g for persistence!

    When The Boomerangs move from the Ayers Rock Stadium in Floyd Rd to the Digereedoo Stadium on the Peninsula, he can say 'told you so' ;-)

    Smug off
  • edited July 2018

    JamesSeed said:


    Hats off to @i_b_b_o_r_g for persistence!

    When The Boomerangs move from the Ayers Rock Stadium in Floyd Rd to the Digereedoo Stadium on the Peninsula, he can say 'told you so' ;-)

    Smug off
    Blimey it was clearly a joke man.

    I've already said your Aussie players at The Valley theory might have legs.

    As I was saying earlier, I think it would be a good idea to wait and see what happens, as people are getting so het up. Even emojis don't work any more it seems.
  • RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I am not a wealthy businessman but before spending £1m on DD, I would spend 100 pence at Land Registry looking at charges on assets. Even if I didn't it would be top of the list for my team. I wouldn't spend £1m then ask if RD owns everything outright. Thus the £7m isn't the issue.

    So would I and I'd hope it was but as has been put forward before on here maybe the goalposts moved on the sale price which could have been for several reasons

    Whatever, if they are not prepared to pay off the debentures and I wouldn't have agreed to that in the first place, then that's their call. It doesn't make them dodgy or unfit to be owners does it, it says to me they want value for money and the club they looked at way back when, is not worth that today as it's assets (staff on and off the pitch), have been watered down and it's league standing is still third tier.
    Can I reiterate, the debentures are only repayable in the Prem when £7m will be change down the back of the sofa. MOVE ON!!!
    Do me a favour Land cannot change hands with prior charges on it. If your house has a mortgage outstanding on it could you sell it without your Bank / Building society wanting repayment or a rearrangement of facilities? Answer = NO
    The charges originated when the spivs bought the club. The land is owned by Baton 2010 that RD/Staprix bought and now he is selling this holding company. I have explained this many times. Keep up. Who is the WUM?
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  • edited July 2018
    Theres a real danger that we'll reach 1111 pages this week, and satelites will fall from the sky meaning the revolution World Cup Final will not be televised.
  • edited July 2018

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I am not a wealthy businessman but before spending £1m on DD, I would spend 100 pence at Land Registry looking at charges on assets. Even if I didn't it would be top of the list for my team. I wouldn't spend £1m then ask if RD owns everything outright. Thus the £7m isn't the issue.

    So would I and I'd hope it was but as has been put forward before on here maybe the goalposts moved on the sale price which could have been for several reasons

    Whatever, if they are not prepared to pay off the debentures and I wouldn't have agreed to that in the first place, then that's their call. It doesn't make them dodgy or unfit to be owners does it, it says to me they want value for money and the club they looked at way back when, is not worth that today as it's assets (staff on and off the pitch), have been watered down and it's league standing is still third tier.
    Can I reiterate, the debentures are only repayable in the Prem when £7m will be change down the back of the sofa. MOVE ON!!!
    Do me a favour Land cannot change hands with prior charges on it. If your house has a mortgage outstanding on it could you sell it without your Bank / Building society wanting repayment or a rearrangement of facilities? Answer = NO
    The charges originated when the spivs bought the club. The land is owned by Baton 2010 that RD/Staprix bought and now he is selling this holding company. I have explained this many times. Keep up. Who is the WUM?
    Yes I'm fully aware of all that, it's your persistence that the Debentures can be rolled over and are not repayable until the club reaches the Premier League. That is only possible if all the ex directors agree to it and apparently three did not re a lease arrangement. Therefore if the Aussies want a clean title to the land as purported then they (ex directors) need to be paid off. So all this 'it shouldn't be an issue it's change down the back of the soda' mantra is your opinion and not one I or it would seem the Aussies share. I've probably had more dealings with charges over property including debentures than you've had hot dinners by the way.

    And try taking your own advice on 'Keeping Up' wasn't it you the other day who didn't know that Bob Whitehand had used his company as the vehicle for one of the debentures :smirk: .
  • RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I am not a wealthy businessman but before spending £1m on DD, I would spend 100 pence at Land Registry looking at charges on assets. Even if I didn't it would be top of the list for my team. I wouldn't spend £1m then ask if RD owns everything outright. Thus the £7m isn't the issue.

    So would I and I'd hope it was but as has been put forward before on here maybe the goalposts moved on the sale price which could have been for several reasons

    Whatever, if they are not prepared to pay off the debentures and I wouldn't have agreed to that in the first place, then that's their call. It doesn't make them dodgy or unfit to be owners does it, it says to me they want value for money and the club they looked at way back when, is not worth that today as it's assets (staff on and off the pitch), have been watered down and it's league standing is still third tier.
    Can I reiterate, the debentures are only repayable in the Prem when £7m will be change down the back of the sofa. MOVE ON!!!
    Do me a favour Land cannot change hands with prior charges on it. If your house has a mortgage outstanding on it could you sell it without your Bank / Building society wanting repayment or a rearrangement of facilities? Answer = NO
    The charges originated when the spivs bought the club. The land is owned by Baton 2010 that RD/Staprix bought and now he is selling this holding company. I have explained this many times. Keep up. Who is the WUM?
    Yes I'm fully aware of all that, it's your persistence that the Debentures can be rolled over and are not repayable until the club reaches the Premier League. That is only possible if all the ex directors agree to it and apparently three do not. Therefore if the Aussies want a clean title to the land as purported then they (ex directors) need to be paid off. So all this 'it shouldn't be an issue it's change down the back of the soda' mantra is your opinion and not one I or it would seem the Ausdies share. I've probably more dealings with charges over property including debentures than you've had hot dinners by the way.

    And try taking your own advice on 'Keeping Up' wasn't it you the other day who didn't know that Bob Whitehand had used his company as the vehicle for one of the debentures :smirk: .
    Don't always consult Companies House b4 I post.

    The 'repayable in the Prem' issue must be a legal contract with Baton 2010 by spivs or else RD would have needed to pay them up when he purchased.
  • edited July 2018
    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07326155/charges

    So not tied to Jiminez or Duchatelet so not to Ozzies specifically, just whomever buys Baton 2010.
  • edited July 2018
    Leuth said:

    still can't get over the fact that 14 people (so far) have liked a post saying they'd rather England won the WC than Charlton won the Champions League. idk, i'm enjoying Competent England going far and it'd be nice to win the thing but that is total raving insanity imo

    Agreed. Have seen England winning the World Cup once. I think we'll get to the final, but Belgium or France will be tough opponents.
  • edited July 2018

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    RedChaser said:

    I am not a wealthy businessman but before spending £1m on DD, I would spend 100 pence at Land Registry looking at charges on assets. Even if I didn't it would be top of the list for my team. I wouldn't spend £1m then ask if RD owns everything outright. Thus the £7m isn't the issue.

    So would I and I'd hope it was but as has been put forward before on here maybe the goalposts moved on the sale price which could have been for several reasons

    Whatever, if they are not prepared to pay off the debentures and I wouldn't have agreed to that in the first place, then that's their call. It doesn't make them dodgy or unfit to be owners does it, it says to me they want value for money and the club they looked at way back when, is not worth that today as it's assets (staff on and off the pitch), have been watered down and it's league standing is still third tier.
    Can I reiterate, the debentures are only repayable in the Prem when £7m will be change down the back of the sofa. MOVE ON!!!
    Do me a favour Land cannot change hands with prior charges on it. If your house has a mortgage outstanding on it could you sell it without your Bank / Building society wanting repayment or a rearrangement of facilities? Answer = NO
    The charges originated when the spivs bought the club. The land is owned by Baton 2010 that RD/Staprix bought and now he is selling this holding company. I have explained this many times. Keep up. Who is the WUM?
    Yes I'm fully aware of all that, it's your persistence that the Debentures can be rolled over and are not repayable until the club reaches the Premier League. That is only possible if all the ex directors agree to it and apparently three do not. Therefore if the Aussies want a clean title to the land as purported then they (ex directors) need to be paid off. So all this 'it shouldn't be an issue it's change down the back of the soda' mantra is your opinion and not one I or it would seem the Ausdies share. I've probably more dealings with charges over property including debentures than you've had hot dinners by the way.

    And try taking your own advice on 'Keeping Up' wasn't it you the other day who didn't know that Bob Whitehand had used his company as the vehicle for one of the debentures :smirk: .
    Don't always consult Companies House b4 I post.

    The 'repayable in the Prem' issue must be a legal contract with Baton 2010 by spivs or else RD would have needed to pay them up when he purchased.
    FFS, you'll never understand. Even though Red Chaser has explained it to you in detail. Just give it up.
  • This thread is like Groundhog Day. Dull.

    However, I can’t stop reading it! Love it. We will all miss this thread when it happens. Sad day.
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