Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to restrain Mr Robinson from striking anyone.
Not impressed with that wording, that makes it sound as if KR ran over with his fists up ready for a brawl on the pitch, and was dragged away, it's a sneaky way of making KR look more of the guilty party
Agree, and since I met ES and interviewed him, and generally been bigging him up since (as have Phil Parry & co for much longer), I am really disappointed that he has written that. I think otherwise the statement is OK, so I wouldnt call It amateurish, but it is very tribal. So definitely not befitting someone of his reputation. Very unpleasantly surprised.
I thought exactly the opposite. Very professionally written to please their fans and position themselves as as much sinned against as sinned for the wider media.
Poorly-worded statement - AFCW missed a good opportunity to make amends in their limp attempt to retain some of the moral high ground.
Watched the match from the Wimbledon end - the standing area along the touchline. Very poor view. Not greatly impressed by their fans. Time they left MK Donkeys to get on with it and for AFCW to find themselves a proper local-ish rival. All credit to them - they've achieved a miracle, but they should now honour their club's history without the never-ending self-victimisation and all-pervasive resentment.
Took us a while to leave the stadium. The proud owner of the 30' offensive banner was still stood by his pride and joy - by then it should long since have been confiscated. Obviously where MKD is concerned anything goes.
Chief Executive Erik Samuelson on Saturday's incidents:
Erik said: “Saturday’s match was a terrific game, full of excitement with a dramatic last-gasp equaliser. Unfortunately it was marred by two incidents, both of which we are investigating. The first was that a coin or coins were apparently thrown from the Charlton fans’ area and hit the assistant referee on the back of the head. We are combing through the CCTV footage to try to identify the person who did this reckless and stupid act.
(From previous post on different thread): I was a few feet from the linesman incident (which occurred after Elliott's elbow on Tex, not right after our goal). I didn't see anything hitting him, and as far as I could tell no-one else near me actually saw anything either, so it must have been something very small (a 1p, a sweet, a peanut?). The lino was scouring the grass for some time, so I think he would have found the object were it of a decent size, and (despite qulaifying for a Freedom Pass) my eyes are pretty decent, and I'm sure I would have spotten someting in the grass, as there wasn't much of it for an object to disappear into. He rubbed his head, but there was no sign of a mark, bump, or blood.
I was standing next to some lads who were pretty lairy, egging each other on etc. so it's possible one of them chucked something, but as I say, it can only have been something pretty small. Not that that makes it much better, but it's not the major drama that Samuelson is trying to turn it into.
if your big enough to dish out abuse dont get the hump when someone gives you a slap, dons are the same as anyone else they have fans that wanna give it the biggun, when we played palace there was a lot of singing pardew your a c*#T etc, and it wasnt frowned upon then, i feel the reason why the supporters were possibly well behaved this weekend is due to it being valley gold members and st holders with tickets, similar to when millwall came to us it was genuine fans that go to games with tickets.
I found the whole day meh, from the shit ground and view, to the overly boisterous "I want to be as tough as the men" female steward, who was shoulder barging people as they tried to walk in, as they had the audacity not to produce their tickets for display quicker than 2 seconds after being asked by other stewards. Reported her to our OB oz as she was causing antagonism with her attitude, he said he would pass it onto the AFC OB, she was there on the pitch at full time and the "coin" incident. Further problems at the end only avoided by line of OB stopping 10-15 lads running back into the ground when they heard the roar of the KR incident (unbeknown to all outside what it was about, I assume they thought it was a tear up with AFCW fans) Best part of the whole day was discovering and watching the 2nd half of the rugby in the sports bar at Waterloo afterwards.
Hopefully Robinson waited for him in the tunnel, no problem with seeing a bit of passion and if he said what he's alleged to have said to anyone on here about their family then I defy them not to lose it.
I had a pretty amusing exchange of views with an AFC fan on Twitter. His angle was purely looking at what we allegedly threw or didn't at the linesman, was quite proud of their banner. The incident with the lino happened relatively close to me and just like others on here, didn't see anything. If something was thrown then obviously its not right. Agree with what others have said on here, lost a load of respect for AFC Wimbledon after the game and even more after their supposed statement.
Does anyone know if our allocation was restricted due to our behaviour at other grounds, Millwall for one ? If so I can see us getting more scrutiny and fewer tickets at this rate.
That statement is so poor I reckon Roland could have come up with a better one.
AFC will always be the wronged party over the MK fiasco, but let's not forget what a grubby horrible club they were off the pitch under Hamann and their playing style and tactics were even worse. From what I saw on Saturday and that statement AFC are clearly the same.
I can't see much wrong with that statement tbh. What was KR going to do exactly, go over and give him a kiss? It might be an assumption but I suggest it's quite accurate. So it's not written that well??? Don't think we're in a position to criticise any other clubs press statements given our recent history.
I can't see much wrong with that statement tbh. What was KR going to do exactly, go over and give him a kiss? It might be an assumption but I suggest it's quite accurate. So it's not written that well??? Don't think we're in a position to criticise any other clubs press statements given our recent history.
It's prejudicial. They have no idea what KR was going over to do. Certainly can't state with any certainty, let alone proof, that he was planning to 'strike' anybody.
I can't see much wrong with that statement tbh. What was KR going to do exactly, go over and give him a kiss? It might be an assumption but I suggest it's quite accurate. So it's not written that well??? Don't think we're in a position to criticise any other clubs press statements given our recent history.
I can't see much wrong with that statement tbh. What was KR going to do exactly, go over and give him a kiss? It might be an assumption but I suggest it's quite accurate. So it's not written that well??? Don't think we're in a position to criticise any other clubs press statements given our recent history.
It's prejudicial. They have no idea what KR was going over to do. Certainly can't state with any certainty, let alone proof, that he was planning to 'strike' anybody.
Agree.
It had said "prevented him from confronting" then it would be accurate but their statement is, as @kinveachyaddick says, prejeducial
The last three words are redundant, loaded and solely there to dig out Robinson, negating the message of the statement: "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to restrain Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
As far as the banner is concerned, they were slow to respond but in all such situations safety considerations come first. There was about five minutes to go. If the professional view was that removing it was likely to end up in a punch-up on crowded terracing with third parties getting knocked around then no responsible safety officer would intervene, whether at Wimbledon, Charlton or anywhere else. Different story at 3.05pm, probably.
The statement feels like it's aimed at calming their own fans - but the dig at "Mr Robinson" is low, whatever you think of his actions now at Charlton and/or his history at Franchise, and does nothing to calm the situation.
Chucking hard objects toward the pitch, or a visitor's coach for that matter, is unacceptable. Karl Robinson is a berk who likes to give out plenty but can't take it back and can't be taken seriously.
The last three words are redundant, loaded and solely there to dig out Robinson, negating the message of the statement: "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to restrain Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
Agree entirely with Airman. No need for the last 3 words.
The last three words are redundant, loaded and solely there to dig out Robinson, negating the message of the statement: "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to restrain Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
As far as the banner is concerned, they were slow to respond but in all such situations safety considerations come first. There was about five minutes to go. If the professional view was that removing it was likely to end up in a punch-up on crowded terracing with third parties getting knocked around then no responsible safety officer would intervene, whether at Wimbledon, Charlton or anywhere else. Different story at 3.05pm, probably.
I'm surprised it didn't read "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to heroically restrain that monster Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
The last three words are redundant, loaded and solely there to dig out Robinson, negating the message of the statement: "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to restrain Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
As far as the banner is concerned, they were slow to respond but in all such situations safety considerations come first. There was about five minutes to go. If the professional view was that removing it was likely to end up in a punch-up on crowded terracing with third parties getting knocked around then no responsible safety officer would intervene, whether at Wimbledon, Charlton or anywhere else. Different story at 3.05pm, probably.
I'm surprised it didn't read "Fortunately the steward was still present and, aided by Neal Ardley and assistant manager Neil Cox, he was able to heroically restrain that monster Mr Robinson from striking anyone."
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Very amateurish
Agree, and since I met ES and interviewed him, and generally been bigging him up since (as have Phil Parry & co for much longer), I am really disappointed that he has written that. I think otherwise the statement is OK, so I wouldnt call It amateurish, but it is very tribal. So definitely not befitting someone of his reputation. Very unpleasantly surprised.
Poorly-worded statement - AFCW missed a good opportunity to make amends in their limp attempt to retain some of the moral high ground.
Watched the match from the Wimbledon end - the standing area along the touchline. Very poor view. Not greatly impressed by their fans. Time they left MK Donkeys to get on with it and for AFCW to find themselves a proper local-ish rival. All credit to them - they've achieved a miracle, but they should now honour their club's history without the never-ending self-victimisation and all-pervasive resentment.
Took us a while to leave the stadium. The proud owner of the 30' offensive banner was still stood by his pride and joy - by then it should long since have been confiscated. Obviously where MKD is concerned anything goes.
At least it shows they have a bit of respect for Karl and reflects well on him if his players want to stand up for him.
Could you imagine them doing the same for Karel!?
I was a few feet from the linesman incident (which occurred after Elliott's elbow on Tex, not right after our goal).
I didn't see anything hitting him, and as far as I could tell no-one else near me actually saw anything either, so it must have been something very small (a 1p, a sweet, a peanut?).
The lino was scouring the grass for some time, so I think he would have found the object were it of a decent size, and (despite qulaifying for a Freedom Pass) my eyes are pretty decent, and I'm sure I would have spotten someting in the grass, as there wasn't much of it for an object to disappear into.
He rubbed his head, but there was no sign of a mark, bump, or blood.
I was standing next to some lads who were pretty lairy, egging each other on etc. so it's possible one of them chucked something, but as I say, it can only have been something pretty small.
Not that that makes it much better, but it's not the major drama that Samuelson is trying to turn it into.
Further problems at the end only avoided by line of OB stopping 10-15 lads running back into the ground when they heard the roar of the KR incident (unbeknown to all outside what it was about, I assume they thought it was a tear up with AFCW fans)
Best part of the whole day was discovering and watching the 2nd half of the rugby in the sports bar at Waterloo afterwards.
Does anyone know if our allocation was restricted due to our behaviour at other grounds, Millwall for one ? If so I can see us getting more scrutiny and fewer tickets at this rate.
AFC will always be the wronged party over the MK fiasco, but let's not forget what a grubby horrible club they were off the pitch under Hamann and their playing style and tactics were even worse. From what I saw on Saturday and that statement AFC are clearly the same.
What was KR going to do exactly, go over and give him a kiss? It might be an assumption but I suggest it's quite accurate.
So it's not written that well???
Don't think we're in a position to criticise any other clubs press statements given our recent history.
It had said "prevented him from confronting" then it would be accurate but their statement is, as @kinveachyaddick says, prejeducial
As far as the banner is concerned, they were slow to respond but in all such situations safety considerations come first. There was about five minutes to go. If the professional view was that removing it was likely to end up in a punch-up on crowded terracing with third parties getting knocked around then no responsible safety officer would intervene, whether at Wimbledon, Charlton or anywhere else. Different story at 3.05pm, probably.
Karl Robinson is a berk who likes to give out plenty but can't take it back and can't be taken seriously.
Agree entirely with Airman. No need for the last 3 words.