I like some of the things he had to say after the game yesterday.
“We’re at The Valley. This place is for front-foot, aggressive football."
"I told the players to go and clap the fans, these people deserve that. The price doesn’t go up or down if we win or lose so we have to treat them with respect. The next stage is to develop this club moving forward."
“I’m going to do my damnedest. I’m going to be working every hour God sends to try and coach and coach. The more we coach, the better we become.”
Why should the players have to be told to go and clap the fans.
The price does go up and down depending on the fixture as games are categorised, this will apply to non season ticket holders, an additional cost to the ticket might be added if you pay on the day.
What we need to know is how he will be developing the club going forward.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
You mean admin 10 points deduction and possible leauge one football . Thank god that did not happen
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
Was in a petrol station last night in lee and Karl Robinson drove in, didn't want to bother him but though id go and say hello and shake his hand. I said to him I just wanted to say hello as I'm a big Charlton fan, he then asked if I was one of the good ones or bad ones in a jokey way. I told him that I do help out with the protests and he responded by saying that he really wants to meet us and understand why we are protesting because from what he has been told by the owners they are doing a good job. He kept stressing that he wanted to meet the people protesting.
I couldn't really get a word in edgeways with him, but he talked about Chris O'Laughlin and stressed that it was his choice to keep him here (felt that was odd for him to bring up as I hadn't) He then said "you know he's not going to sell the club"
I asked him if he had seen the emails, he said he hadn't.
He then said that Roland admitted to him that when he bought the club he did not understand English football. (don't know what's changed because he has seen at most 2 matches live since?)
He also stated that he was very ambitious and wants to get into the premier league and he feels that he is now at a club that can achieve that. He said that Roland has the funds to back us in the premier league. Came across as a really genuine guy, don't doubt that he believes what he's saying, but obviously does not know all the lies we have been told for the past 3 years and what has driven us to this point. From meeting him I doubt that he would take any crap from the owners, but who knows {...}
This is really interesting as was in an informal context. So likely to be genuine and unguarded.
Yes, he comes across as genuine and I am sure he really does see the potential at the Club but by his own admission has taken the manager post without due diligence, so to speak, on the background to the unrest and turmoil.
By trying to do that now all he will be able to do is listen and possibly sympathise but he has then no option surely but to tell the protesters he meets that he believes the regime have recognised their mistakes and are embarking on a new start...etc etc.
However, the fact that KR has openly accepted that tranfers will be arranged by committee (which no doubt includes Driesen), that C O'L is to stay as his choice (very strange not to say weird) and that Meire is phenomenal in her support (as she was no doubt with Slade and the others - who can forget that Guy Luzon was to be Charlton's Alex Ferguson?) fills me with foreboding that Robinson has accepted the job conditionally
So,that far from learning from their mistakes the regime are fundamentally doing nothing very different in their perception of how to run the club other than putting a second English manger into what all the previous evidence tells us will prove ultimately to be an impossible working situation.
Robinson got a long pretty well with a chairman who put his own interests ahead of a club's supporters - and I cannot see too much criticism on the part of Karl Robinson. Also bear in mind that the regime's last manager came from Cardiff City where the Chairman Vincent Tan was cut from very much the same cloth. Some might believe this to be a coincidence.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
Every new owner will bring in who he wants. Nothing unusual when Parkinson and Powell were disposed off.
However we are now on Manager Number 8 under the Rat's regime. He has no idea who he wants in charge to implement his plan.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority
What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
That's as maybe, but the people he employs to advise him on football matters seem to be a bunch of clueless no marks
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
That's as maybe, but the people he employs to advise him on football matters seem to be a bunch of clueless no marks
Unfortunately that is the case in all walks of life. We had a fantastic advisor and coach in Les Read. There was another good man we lost as people wanted him in charge and got the bullet. The bottom line is that the fans should be supporting the team and club as those that telling fans to boycott are damaging the short as well as long term fan base more so than the owners.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
With respect, Sue, I think you've started on the Xmas sherry a bit too soon ...your usually impeccable grammar has severely gone to pot.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
RD is a successful businessman in the field of micro-electronics. However he did not create the company Melexis, he bought it for a song when it was in financial distress.
A football club as a business bears no relationship to a technical manufacturing business like that. Nor does he run Melexis like he runs his football clubs. At Melexis his CEO is 50 and worked her way up through the company ranks.
As the CEO of Wimbledon said to me, "if I was appointed Glaxo Smith Kline, I wouldn't wander down to the research lab and say to the techs there "hey mix some aspirin with that cold remedy, I am sure it will be more effective. So I don't behave like that to Neal Ardley either"
RD's tenure and "strategy" at all his football clubs have shown no appreciable success. When he ventured into politics, that was a complete failure too. If he would stick to his knitting, and put qualified professionals in charge of his clubs, holding them to account when they don't meet pre-agreed objectives, we would all be fine. Instead he treats football as a plaything, a vanity project where he experiments with his bizarre ideas, which he would never dare do at Melexis.
You can gaze up to him with deference as a "successful businessman" if you want. Some of us with an understanding of how different businesses function, in different ways, can see through his mis-management, to the damage it is doing. How are we 'running the club down', especially when in many cases we all worked so hard to help build it up when it nearly disappeared into SE25? That was a most offensive remark on your part.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
With respect, Sue, I think you've started on the Xmas sherry a bit too soon ...your usually impeccable grammar has severely gone to pot.
Have a little lie down and maybe try again.
Fanny by name fanny by nature. Pretty much sums the fans of today up down there. Chucking stress balls and worrying about grammar. Proper South London.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
And those that do nothing are equally killing it by allowing the club to be destroyed.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
With respect, Sue, I think you've started on the Xmas sherry a bit too soon ...your usually impeccable grammar has severely gone to pot.
Have a little lie down and maybe try again.
Fanny by name fanny by nature. Pretty much sums the fans of today up down there. Chucking stress balls and worrying about grammar. Proper South London.
You ain't winning any Brownie points on here today mate. Go and have a beer and come back tomorrow
We support the team, just as we did under Gliksten, Fryer and Jimenez. Players and owners will come go, fans are loyal. Five generations of my family have supported the club since the 1910s. I have seen some proper proper shit and under worse management. Look at Leeds, Newcastle, Man U, Pompey, Villa all had issues with their board but one thing is for sure their fans backed them during the game and never brought it into the game and encouraged fans to boycott to destroy the atmosphere and support.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
RD is a successful businessman in the field of micro-electronics. However he did not create the company Melexis, he bought it for a song when it was in financial distress.
A football club as a business bears no relationship to a technical manufacturing business like that. Nor does he run Melexis like he runs his football clubs. At Melexis his CEO is 50 and worked her way up through the company ranks.
As the CEO of Wimbledon said to me, "if I was appointed Glaxo Smith Kline, I wouldn't wander down to the research lab and say to the techs there "hey mix some aspirin with that cold remedy, I am sure it will be more effective. So I don't behave like that to Neal Ardley either"
RD's tenure and "strategy" at all his football clubs have shown no appreciable success. When he ventured into politics, that was a complete failure too. If he would stick to his knitting, and put qualified professionals in charge of his clubs, holding them to account when they don't meet pre-agreed objectives, we would all be fine. Instead he treats football as a plaything, a vanity project where he experiments with his bizarre ideas, which he would never dare do at Melexis.
You can gaze up to him with deference as a "successful businessman" if you want. Some of us with an understanding of how different businesses function, in different ways, can see through his mis-management, to the damage it is doing. How are we 'running the club down', especially when in many cases we all worked so hard to help build it up when it nearly disappeared into SE25? That was a most offensive remark on your part.
Anyone who buys a business and turns it around must have some kind of good business sense. A very good friend of mine is the assistant manager of Wimbeldon and I wouldn't believe everything their CEO says or practices believe you me. For the record I was over at SE 25 and I am sure you can well remember how we were notified about the move as well and the time frame.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Never said he was a crook, in fact I said the opposite @WhenIwasLittleBoy
I don't mind if I meet Robinson or not, he isn't the problem.
You get very upset, calling other fans "muggy", for doubting your support but do the very same thing yourself. I support the team and club just as much as you. No more, no less. You aren't a better or worse fan than me or anyone else, Dean.
Strange thing to call me "notorious" what does that mean? Maybe youve gone so far down the road of hating Rick and others you see as left wing that you can no longer see the big picture. Your arguments are confused and have no substance other than "I'm a real fan and the rest of you are being brainwashed".
At least give people the credit for making up their own minds even if you think they are wrong.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Never said he was a crook, in fact I said the opposite @WhenIwasLittleBoy
I don't mind if I meet Robinson or not, he isn't the problem.
You get very upset, calling other fans "muggy", for doubting your support but do the very same thing yourself. I support the team and club just as much as you. No more, no less. You aren't a better or worse fan than me or anyone else, Dean.
Strange thing to call me "notorious" what does that mean? Maybe youve gone so far down the road of hating Rick and others you see as left wing that you can no longer see the big picture. Your arguments are confused and have no substance other than "I'm a real fan and the rest of you are being brainwashed".
At least give people the credit for making up their own minds even if you think they are wrong.
The woo is me line has resurfaced. I noted the other week you highlighted me standing by your taxi why was that?
I have never stated to be better or worse what I will do is stand up to others in which it appears is something that people aren't used to on here.
Memories of when certain people who are connected with CARD were employed by the club and grassed me as well as others up and tried to get a conviction in which the police said no to and was proven I wasn't there but then proceeded to ban me for 2 years.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
When RD came in we finished 9th in the Championship, with a good solid squad of players playing in front of crowds of 16k+
Now, where are we now?
That is the argument, and the blame lays solely at the feet of RD & the SMT
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
@WhenIwasLittleBoy I and others were critical of the Spivs but again people said "they saved the club", "you buy the club if you think you can do better", "don't see the problem", "I just want to see the game" etc etc.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
The reason their wasn't another manager in the summer was because Cash pulled out and Pinky and Perky didn't have the money to either get rid of Powell or bring in a replacement with a replacement. RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say. It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Never said he was a crook, in fact I said the opposite @WhenIwasLittleBoy
I don't mind if I meet Robinson or not, he isn't the problem.
You get very upset, calling other fans "muggy", for doubting your support but do the very same thing yourself. I support the team and club just as much as you. No more, no less. You aren't a better or worse fan than me or anyone else, Dean.
Strange thing to call me "notorious" what does that mean? Maybe youve gone so far down the road of hating Rick and others you see as left wing that you can no longer see the big picture. Your arguments are confused and have no substance other than "I'm a real fan and the rest of you are being brainwashed".
At least give people the credit for making up their own minds even if you think they are wrong.
The woo is me line has resurfaced. I noted the other week you highlighted me standing by your taxi why was that?
I have never stated to be better or worse what I will do is stand up to others in which it appears is something that people aren't used to on here.
Mate if you are happy with the shit constantly served up by the regime great, some of us just set our goals a little higher.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
When RD came in we finished 9th in the Championship, with a good solid squad of players playing in front of crowds of 16k+
Now, where are we now?
That is the argument, and the blame lays solely at the feet of RD & the SMT
Never turn your back on the team. If CARD sent out messsge tomorrow to all go to the Peterborough game would you all go? In terms of the attendances of course they are going to be higher as the away following are bigger as well as some of the games are more attractive to the floating fan.
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The price does go up and down depending on the fixture as games are categorised, this will apply to non season ticket holders, an additional cost to the ticket might be added if you pay on the day.
What we need to know is how he will be developing the club going forward.
oh hang on
Yes, he comes across as genuine and I am sure he really does see the potential at the Club but by his own admission has taken the manager post without due diligence, so to speak, on the background to the unrest and turmoil.
By trying to do that now all he will be able to do is listen and possibly sympathise but he has then no option surely but to tell the protesters he meets that he believes the regime have recognised their mistakes and are embarking on a new start...etc etc.
However, the fact that KR has openly accepted that tranfers will be arranged by committee (which no doubt includes Driesen), that C O'L is to stay as his choice (very strange not to say weird) and that Meire is phenomenal in her support (as she was no doubt with Slade and the others - who can forget that Guy Luzon was to be Charlton's Alex Ferguson?) fills me with foreboding that Robinson has accepted the job conditionally
So,that far from learning from their mistakes the regime are fundamentally doing nothing very different in their perception of how to run the club other than putting a second English manger into what all the previous evidence tells us will prove ultimately to be an impossible working situation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Winkelman
Robinson got a long pretty well with a chairman who put his own interests ahead of a club's supporters - and I cannot see too much criticism on the part of Karl Robinson. Also bear in mind that the regime's last manager came from Cardiff City where the Chairman Vincent Tan was cut from very much the same cloth. Some might believe this to be a coincidence.
Where were the protests then.?
However we are now on Manager Number 8 under the Rat's regime. He has no idea who he wants in charge to implement his plan.
For all their many, many faults at least the Spivs stuck by their manager and had football ambition. And we were in the Championship and finished 9th.
But you are right, we were heading for Admin under the Spivs so I and many other were relieved to see a new owner come in. A rich owner too.
It could have been so different as I don't think RD is a crook, or trying to deliberately kill the club or build on the Valley but he is making a disaster of his ownership of our club because he doesn't understand football and he appoints and gives huge responsibility to unqualified and inexperienced people like Meire, Fraeye and Driesen because they are part of his inner circle of friends.
It's not working and it never will, even if Robinson wins a few games and gets us promoted (still a big if) we'll face the same problems in the Championship as we did before under Duchatelet.
RD isn't a crook In fact he is an astute business man redardless of what people think or say.
It's a declaration of your support to the club sadly as you have stated that it will never work. It's people like you and the other notorious people that will run this club down with your opinions. You gone so far down the line with is even of you did decide to meet with the KM or Robison and decide to support you would see that as a defeat and the sad thing is you are not seeing the bigger picture.
Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
Have a little lie down and maybe try again.
A football club as a business bears no relationship to a technical manufacturing business like that. Nor does he run Melexis like he runs his football clubs. At Melexis his CEO is 50 and worked her way up through the company ranks.
As the CEO of Wimbledon said to me, "if I was appointed Glaxo Smith Kline, I wouldn't wander down to the research lab and say to the techs there "hey mix some aspirin with that cold remedy, I am sure it will be more effective. So I don't behave like that to Neal Ardley either"
RD's tenure and "strategy" at all his football clubs have shown no appreciable success. When he ventured into politics, that was a complete failure too. If he would stick to his knitting, and put qualified professionals in charge of his clubs, holding them to account when they don't meet pre-agreed objectives, we would all be fine. Instead he treats football as a plaything, a vanity project where he experiments with his bizarre ideas, which he would never dare do at Melexis.
You can gaze up to him with deference as a "successful businessman" if you want. Some of us with an understanding of how different businesses function, in different ways, can see through his mis-management, to the damage it is doing. How are we 'running the club down', especially when in many cases we all worked so hard to help build it up when it nearly disappeared into SE25? That was a most offensive remark on your part.
Proper South London.
Go and have a beer and come back tomorrow
Five generations of my family have supported the club since the 1910s. I have seen some proper proper shit and under worse management.
Look at Leeds, Newcastle, Man U, Pompey, Villa all had issues with their board but one thing is for sure their fans backed them during the game and never brought it into the game and encouraged fans to boycott to destroy the atmosphere and support.
I don't mind if I meet Robinson or not, he isn't the problem.
You get very upset, calling other fans "muggy", for doubting your support but do the very same thing yourself. I support the team and club just as much as you. No more, no less. You aren't a better or worse fan than me or anyone else, Dean.
Strange thing to call me "notorious" what does that mean? Maybe youve gone so far down the road of hating Rick and others you see as left wing that you can no longer see the big picture. Your arguments are confused and have no substance other than "I'm a real fan and the rest of you are being brainwashed".
At least give people the credit for making up their own minds even if you think they are wrong.
I have never stated to be better or worse what I will do is stand up to others in which it appears is something that people aren't used to on here.
Memories of when certain people who are connected with CARD were employed by the club and grassed me as well as others up and tried to get a conviction in which the police said no to and was proven I wasn't there but then proceeded to ban me for 2 years.
Now, where are we now?
That is the argument, and the blame lays solely at the feet of RD & the SMT
In terms of the attendances of course they are going to be higher as the away following are bigger as well as some of the games are more attractive to the floating fan.