If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
I was glad to see the change in manager, others may disagree, yet under the previous regime we had ONE managerial change in three years. Under this lot we have had SEVEN in a shorter period of time. Plus it's also worth mentioning that the previous regime, regardless of what people think of them, stuck with Chris Powell after a sticky start, then gave him the opportunity to continue his work the following season and funded a completely new squad packed with players that were considered very good for the level.
Under Duchatelet, Powell would have been ousted by the end of his first season and we would never have gone on to build the team we did nor win the league in such dramatic fashion. Whilst there may be some similarities between the two regimes, the last lot at least seemed to want success on the pitch and they didn't feel the need to tell the manager how he should go about achieving that.
Powell and Jimenez never spoke, and the money was due to Jenkinsons sale to Arsenal and the funds from Cash. Jimemez was a huge Chelsea fan and the day we lifted the title he had a motorbike waiting outside to take him over to Wembley to watch Chelsea in the final. Some owner that.
How outrageous..!!
Much, much , much worse than what this current regime have done
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
Please tell us some of these stories
If you knew some of them you would think this lot are a god send believe you me.
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
Jiminez ran out of money because his backer, Cash, walked out. He didn't have a pot to p!$$ in personally and couldn't afford the £5m run costs to keep the club going. He had to sell. His error was taking the highest bidder but when you are broke that is what you do.
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
Jiminez ran out of money because his backer, Cash, walked out. He didn't have a pot to p!$$ in personally and couldn't afford the £5m run costs to keep the club going. He had to sell. His error was taking the highest bidder but when you are broke that is what you do.
Why did Cash walk out? Why didn't the American take over? Why weren't admin and ticket staff being paid? I can go on and on, the man is a spiv.
I know some of the stories. The Spivs were rotten to the core, and the club was a horrendous place to be.
However, for the last year or so of their reign they were fully united with the fans - they wanted to sell as much as we wanted them to. No need for protests, although don't forget what story relaunched the Voice and when.
Notwithstanding, two things they had in their favour over this lot. Firstly Jiminez undoubtedly knew football and when he was backed he was extremely successful at the club. 101 points shows how well they backed the manager when Cash was funding them.
Secondly - and this was the huge advantage this lot foolishly kicked into touch - they had Chris Powell.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
When RD came in we finished 9th in the Championship, with a good solid squad of players playing in front of crowds of 16k+
Now, where are we now?
That is the argument, and the blame lays solely at the feet of RD & the SMT
Never turn your back on the team. If CARD sent out messsge tomorrow to all go to the Peterborough game would you all go? In terms of the attendances of course they are going to be higher as the away following are bigger as well as some of the games are more attractive to the floating fan.
We've had fewer than 6k home fans in the ground at at least 2 league games this season. We have 4000 season tickets sold fewer than last year. It's got nothing to do with away following or floating fans, it's the people who were in the ground the last time we were relegated who refuse to go whilst this lot are in charge.
And CARD hasn't asked once for a boycott, not even of season tickets. The only thing asked for was to delay purchases.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You're not a plumber by any chance are you, because it sounds like you might be talking ballcocks...
No-one is as much to blame for the state of the club as the regime. Their negligence and cack-handed approach to running our club is 100% responsible for our current crisis, and for all further crises we will face as long as they remain.
None of this is down to the fans' protests, which are a reaction to, and an attempt to find a remedy for, the complete farce the club has become.
I take it you understand what state the club was in financially and where we were heading before they took over.
I think everyone knows what the state of the club was in before the regime took over and that is not the argument. The argument is the way that players, staff and fans have been treated / lied too along with the "We know best" attitude from the SMT (We are now where we are because of them, not the previous regime)
And that wasn't the case under Jimenez? At least we now where the money is coming from.How about the people who worked for the club and didn't get paid and were then made redundant? How about Parky getting the boot after his first game in charge? Where were the protests then.?
I was glad to see the change in manager, others may disagree, yet under the previous regime we had ONE managerial change in three years. Under this lot we have had SEVEN in a shorter period of time. Plus it's also worth mentioning that the previous regime, regardless of what people think of them, stuck with Chris Powell after a sticky start, then gave him the opportunity to continue his work the following season and funded a completely new squad packed with players that were considered very good for the level.
Under Duchatelet, Powell would have been ousted by the end of his first season and we would never have gone on to build the team we did nor win the league in such dramatic fashion. Whilst there may be some similarities between the two regimes, the last lot at least seemed to want success on the pitch and they didn't feel the need to tell the manager how he should go about achieving that.
Powell and Jimenez never spoke, and the money was due to Jenkinsons sale to Arsenal and the funds from Cash. Jimemez was a huge Chelsea fan and the day we lifted the title he had a motorbike waiting outside to take him over to Wembley to watch Chelsea in the final. Some owner that.
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But he did come to the games, how many times exactly has Roly been?
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
By now I think everyone on the forum knows you. You say that CARD is embarrassing and wrecking your enjoyment, what is more embarrassing to the club are banned supporters who tarnish the clubs reputation.
By now I think everyone on the forum knows you. You say that CARD is embarrassing and wrecking your enjoyment, what is more embarrassing to the club are banned supporters who tarnish the clubs reputation.
Lol. With a statement like that. If you are in a pub talking to a armed robber does that mean you are going to hold up a bank? Charlton wanted people to be nicked and asked people who worked for the club who now distribute beach balls stress balls and other objects before a game to name people. The police said I had nothing to do with the incident and was in another part of town however the club banned me for association
By now I think everyone on the forum knows you. You say that CARD is embarrassing and wrecking your enjoyment, what is more embarrassing to the club are banned supporters who tarnish the clubs reputation.
Lol. With a statement like that. If you are in a pub talking to a armed robber does that mean you are going to hold up a bank? Charlton wanted people to be nicked and asked people who worked for the club who now distribute beach balls stress balls and other objects before a game to name people. The police said I had nothing to do with the incident and was in another part of town however the club banned me for association
and that my friend is one of the reasons why people are protesting
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
I am sure I could have heard you on the radio.
Are you serious or are you trolling now?
It's a radio show whose sole purpose is to have fans call in and chat football. He called in as as fan representing only his views and make those he has spoken to. Clearly wasn't speaking for CARD.
This is great! . Who needs Eastenders and the like?
PS: if you wear a black and white scarf and then buy food/drink from one of the 'in stadium' outlets (West Stand, yesterday, 2:45pm) do you get a discount?
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
I am sure I could have heard you on the radio.
Are you serious or are you trolling now?
It's a radio show whose sole purpose is to have fans call in and chat football. He called in as as fan representing only his views and make those he has spoken to. Clearly wasn't speaking for CARD.
How can you be trolling by listening to a national radio show.? Also look,up the definition of trolling and the relevance to a national radio show.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
I am sure I could have heard you on the radio.
You did. They asked for fans who'd gone to Belgium to protest to ring in so I did.
Doesnt make me part of CARD or their spokesman.
In fact the people who are in CARD were having a good hearted dig at me after that I got the credit while they did all the hard work.
But as you struggle to understand I'll say it again slowly.
I'm. Not. In. CARD.
Sorry you're sons not enjoying his football, no one wants to lose even more fans than we have already but don't blame me or the protests. You and both know where the real problem lies.
Right, time for a drink. See you in the Lib, Barnsey will point me out.
Why not get off the CARD trip. The man has the balls to offer an olive branch and meet the fans. The man has been there a week and shows passion as well as enthusiasm and all we see or read are derogatory comments and silly images. Back the team and get behind them for the second half of the season.
The response from the overwhelming majority of Charlton supporters has been positive to Karl Robinson.
The major problem is the off field running of the club, the inept management staff & the flawed & poorly enacted strategy / vision of the club. This directed by an owner who closes his mind & refuses to hear any critical voices.
So you will have to forgive those that sceptical about whether anything has changed. Evidence of more sensible decisions & better approach off the pitch that will underpin success on the pitch is needed. Duchatelet & Meire have demonstrated limited capability of that at their time at Charlton so far.
Regardless of what happens or whom is appointed there are certain factions that will continually carry on. Although they deny it there actions do effect the players and results therefor they are as much to blame in hurting the team and club rather than the owners logic would be to turn up and support the team with as passion as there is as when it comes to chucking things on the pitch. What also would be embarrassing is going over to the spanners on the 21st listening to all the anti songs wearing black and white rather than supporting the team and wearing the red of Charlton.
You best stay at home then.
I will be there as always supporting the team.
What a shame you'll be there supporting the team but not caring about the future of the club.It is not a problem supporting the team whether you're wearing black and white or not. People like yourself seem to have an issue with other fans wearing something that shows they do not back the regime. I don't really see what your problem is with how other fans show their discontent with the owner, you're derogatory comments are made more to seek a reaction.
What a muggy comment. I have been going week in week out for decades. The road you lot are being led down is the as what happened to Blackpool. Those organising these campaigns and boycotts will end up killing the club.
With respect, Sue, I think you've started on the Xmas sherry a bit too soon ...your usually impeccable grammar has severely gone to pot.
Have a little lie down and maybe try again.
Fanny by name fanny by nature. Pretty much sums the fans of today up down there. Chucking stress balls and worrying about grammar. Proper South London.
Hit a nerve, did I ?
Sounds to me as though you know nothing about fanny ....
...as well as a host of other topics.
And I don't hail from South London.
I will be there as always supporting the team too, believe it or not AND at Bradford, Bolton, Rochdale & all "stations" north of Watford.
But then I guess I'd be invisible to you , wearing my black & white scarf whilst I support OUR team.
By now I think everyone on the forum knows you. You say that CARD is embarrassing and wrecking your enjoyment, what is more embarrassing to the club are banned supporters who tarnish the clubs reputation.
Lol. With a statement like that. If you are in a pub talking to a armed robber does that mean you are going to hold up a bank? Charlton wanted people to be nicked and asked people who worked for the club who now distribute beach balls stress balls and other objects before a game to name people. The police said I had nothing to do with the incident and was in another part of town however the club banned me for association
By now I think everyone on the forum knows you. You say that CARD is embarrassing and wrecking your enjoyment, what is more embarrassing to the club are banned supporters who tarnish the clubs reputation.
Lol. With a statement like that. If you are in a pub talking to a armed robber does that mean you are going to hold up a bank? Charlton wanted people to be nicked and asked people who worked for the club who now distribute beach balls stress balls and other objects before a game to name people. The police said I had nothing to do with the incident and was in another part of town however the club banned me for association
But I wouldn't be standing in a pub with an armed robber perhaps you should have been more cateful who you associated with. Your gripe seems to be with people who you alleged "grassed you up" what has any of this got to do with other fans on here that you have made derogatory comments to for simply agreeing to support the protest of the regime.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
For the 200th time IM NOT PART OF CARD
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
I am sure I could have heard you on the radio.
Are you serious or are you trolling now?
It's a radio show whose sole purpose is to have fans call in and chat football. He called in as as fan representing only his views and make those he has spoken to. Clearly wasn't speaking for CARD.
How can you be trolling by listening to a national radio show.? Also look,up the definition of trolling and the relevance to a national radio show.
If you can't see that a fans call in radio show is just that and if you are genuinely not trolling then I think it says something are bout your intelligence.
You might share the views of one political party does that in itself make you a party member? I assume if you want the end of austerity you must be are labour MP.
Before you take that literally as well it was clearly a hypothetical statement. I'm not suggesting anything about your political views.
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
If you read my quote properly it states a toxic atmosphere.please read back.
The root of the problem is the owner and the useless team he has allowed to run the club into the ground. That is what has created all the toxicity around the club, so stop making excuses for them and accept the fact that if they had done things properly from the beginning, there would be no protests. The blame for all of these problems is firmly with Duchatelet and co.
My point is why did nothing get done with previous owners?
Anyone with half a brain could see that Jimemez was ruining the club and the stories that were coming out were outrageous.
So why didn't YOU do something then?
Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
I go to watch football and not get involved in politics. That is my time where I have fond memories of sharing with my old man as a boy on the East terrace and wanted to replicate with my son but when my boy turns round and says he doesn't enjoy it anymore and asks why they are not wearing red and white as well as holding up matches I question why I need to go anymore and that is wrong.
Same as me then only my son doesn't want to come because of the regime. 4k others too it seems.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
when a 10 year old questions things at a game that's wrong and as a spokesperson I put you as one of which that is ruining his football. A little screenshot to refresh your memory.
Oh dear. Everyone at the time knew that was a joke, the amount of LOL's tells you that. And if you were still struggling, the fact he mentioned letthegoodtimesroll who'd somehow still find the positives if we were playing in front of 2k fans in the conference south should've also been a pretty good indicator.
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Seems you are blaming others for not doing what you yourself didnt do.
Much, much , much worse than what this current regime have done
Why did Cash walk out?
Why didn't the American take over?
Why weren't admin and ticket staff being paid?
I can go on and on, the man is a spiv.
However, for the last year or so of their reign they were fully united with the fans - they wanted to sell as much as we wanted them to. No need for protests, although don't forget what story relaunched the Voice and when.
Notwithstanding, two things they had in their favour over this lot. Firstly Jiminez undoubtedly knew football and when he was backed he was extremely successful at the club. 101 points shows how well they backed the manager when Cash was funding them.
Secondly - and this was the huge advantage this lot foolishly kicked into touch - they had Chris Powell.
You say you want to just go to football and not get involved in politics. Me too but you are very keen to get very involved in politics on here.
And I still don't understand the standing by a taxi remark @WhenIwasLittleBoy
And CARD hasn't asked once for a boycott, not even of season tickets. The only thing asked for was to delay purchases.
But he did come to the games, how many times exactly has Roly been?
Charlton wanted people to be nicked and asked people who worked for the club who now distribute beach balls stress balls and other objects before a game to name people. The police said I had nothing to do with the incident and was in another part of town however the club banned me for association
IM NOT A SPOKESMAN FOR CARD
And it was a joke, stop pretending to be offended.
It's a radio show whose sole purpose is to have fans call in and chat football. He called in as as fan representing only his views and make those he has spoken to. Clearly wasn't speaking for CARD.
PS: if you wear a black and white scarf and then buy food/drink from one of the 'in stadium' outlets (West Stand, yesterday, 2:45pm) do you get a discount?
Doesnt make me part of CARD or their spokesman.
In fact the people who are in CARD were having a good hearted dig at me after that I got the credit while they did all the hard work.
But as you struggle to understand I'll say it again slowly.
I'm. Not. In. CARD.
Sorry you're sons not enjoying his football, no one wants to lose even more fans than we have already but don't blame me or the protests. You and both know where the real problem lies.
Right, time for a drink. See you in the Lib, Barnsey will point me out.
Sounds to me as though you know nothing about fanny ....
...as well as a host of other topics.
And I don't hail from South London.
I will be there as always supporting the team too, believe it or not AND at Bradford, Bolton, Rochdale & all "stations" north of Watford.
But then I guess I'd be invisible to you , wearing my black & white scarf whilst I support OUR team.
You might share the views of one political party does that in itself make you a party member? I assume if you want the end of austerity you must be are labour MP.
Before you take that literally as well it was clearly a hypothetical statement. I'm not suggesting anything about your political views.