If we had RB as owners it might make the directors lounge interesting at half time with certain individuals whizzing around on to many freebie Red Bull and cokes.
Well if it became an option i'd put my hat firmly in the Red Bull corner. Proper investment, we could keep our good youngsters, we'd have a chance of getting back to the premier league, they'd most definitely employ someone who actually knew about football to run the club, we'd have proper scouts and most importantly we'd be rid of those 3 fucking Belgian idiots.
I couldn't care less if other clubs despised us, i want success for my club. Do you think Man City fans give a shit that they're funded by a Sheikh? No, well i don't care if we're funded by an energy drink.
Or would we be a feeder club for RB Leipzig who are finding it easier / quicker / cheaper to get a footing alongside Bayern Munich than it would be to put us on a footing with Man City
Depends if they're looking at it for now or as a longer term thing. They took over Leipzig 7 years ago when they were in the 5th tier so although their rise has been pretty quick, in terms of actually seeing a return on their investment that's not been 'quick' at all and it's pretty likely with some investment over here that they could get a championship or league one side into the premier league a lot quicker than 7 years.
Except that, notwithstanding the lowly league position, Leipzig were still a very big name, especially in the East. It was a very easy case to make if they wanted maximum publicity, and, with their money, they were almost guaranteed going up through the leagues. The equivalent for the UK would have been if they'd taken over Rangers after they were dropped from the Scottish Premiership.
Frankly, for me, if it happened to us, it'd be the day football dies - not that the current stay in intensive care is much fun.
Yeah fair point on the size of the club thing, i guess if they were looking to do similar here then they'd go for a 'sleeping giant' like Leeds over us.
Never thought the idea of this would ever cross my mind in a positive light. But I honestly think I'd consider it. Can see football getting more and more commercialised over the next 20-30 years- at least we'd be ahead of the game and have a chance of decent success.
It's not a fair point, they did not take over Leipzig but a smaller team. Equivalent would be taking over Guiseley and moving them to Leeds
But the reason why the name was changed to Leipzig is that Leipzig remained a big name in German football (clearly RB is not Lokomotiv or Chemie), it was a city without a successful team but with instant name recognition. A better comparison might be if Derby County was in (in old money) Division 4, and Chesterfield were recreated as RB Derby City.
IF Red Bull aren't just trying to get another young Player for their Very successful yet disliked German football team, is that another schism would appear in our Diminishing Fanbase if we were taken over by the rich Austrian.
Some would just be happy that Duchatelet has gone and that the new owners don't do failure ? (i've heard that before some where)
If they reproduced their formula in England that has got them speeding up the Leagues in Germany the Football tourists would flood in with new fans ironically being the type that Katrien has always dreamed of.
Success on the pitch but at what price ? Dietrich Mateschitz the 72 year old owner is worth 14.7 billion(august 2016)
This isn't Bull shit. This story could have legs Wheels.
IF Red Bull aren't just trying to get another young Player for their Very successful yet disliked German football team, is that another schism would appear in our Diminishing Fanbase if we were taken over by the rich Austrian.
Some would just be happy that Duchatelet has gone and that the new owners don't do failure ? (i've heard that before some where)
If they reproduced their formula in England that has got them speeding up the Leagues in Germany the Football tourists would flood in with new fans ironically being the type that Katrien has always dreamed of.
Success on the pitch but at what price ? Dietrich Mateschitz the 72 year old owner is worth 14.7 billion(august 2016)
This isn't Bull shit. This story could have legs Wheels.
Are Leipzig so hated over there simply because RB are foreign?
I don't recall similar hatred and protests aimed at Wolfsburg (funded by Volkswagen), Ingolstadt (funded by Audi), Hoffenheim (funded by a german software guy) and Leverkusen (funded by Bayer).
Personally if i was German, i'd have thought any club that could potentially rise up and challenge Bayern Munich was a good thing.
The more you think of it, the more likely it seems to be, Roland will have no qualms selling to them, will no doubt meet whatever asking price he gives them. They'll spent a few quid here and there but by a large ship our promising talent to Leipzig who seem to be establishing themselves towards the top of the Bundesliga. Really is the lesser of 2 evils.
Red Bull's "don't do failure" is a little different to Roland's and they hire people who know what they are doing. They have taken Leizpig from the SEVENTH division in German football to the top of the Bundesliga in 8 years. The equivalent of taking over Tonbridge Angels and having them challenge for the prem title.
If it didn't change our identity at all, or even came at a price of "The Redbull Valley" it would be good, but any more I couldn't stomach it. We're not a franchise, we're Charlton Athletic
Are Leipzig so hated over there simply because RB are foreign?
I don't recall similar hatred and protests aimed at Wolfsburg (funded by Volkswagen), Ingolstadt (funded by Audi), Hoffenheim (funded by a german software guy) and Leverkusen (funded by Bayer).
Personally if i was German, i'd have thought any club that could potentially rise up and challenge Bayern Munich was a good thing.
As far as I understand, Hoffenheim are unpopular in Germany.
Are Leipzig so hated over there simply because RB are foreign?
I don't recall similar hatred and protests aimed at Wolfsburg (funded by Volkswagen), Ingolstadt (funded by Audi), Hoffenheim (funded by a german software guy) and Leverkusen (funded by Bayer).
Personally if i was German, i'd have thought any club that could potentially rise up and challenge Bayern Munich was a good thing.
But they're owned by Bayer and owned by Volkswagen.
And Ingolstadt are only 12 years old due to a merger of 2 teams, that have relied on far less money than RB Leipzig to get to where they are now, and Hoffenheim were always a 4th or 5th tier team before being bought by Hopp, which is the equivalent of a billionaire from Maidstone buying them and pumping money into the club until they are in the top flight, are you seriously saying the 500 or so fans of Maidstone right now wouldn't want a piece of that?
Interesting that they claim the chap was here on behalf of RB Leipzig, to look at Lookman. I could understand looking at Bauer, but it seems quite rare for a young English player to go straight abroad.. doesn't it?
That would at least suggest that the clubs under Red Bull's control are staffed and scouted correctly.. Unfortunately, I think an acquisition from Red Bull would result in some cringey American-isms and quite a few gimmicks, albeit well funded American-isms and gimmicks!
Don't beg for Red Bull. Just ask in Salzburg for details. All good players were transferred from Salzburg to Leipzig. So for Leipzig Red Bull is the best thing what could have happended. All other teams from the network are not really happy.
That's because there's more money in the Bundesliga than Austria.
However if they bought an English club, with the potential to get to the riches of the premier league, then they'd certainly become a priority amongst their network of clubs.
Somebody on here mentioned starting an AFC Charlton. Their idea was quite rightly put down by an intelligent post that said the identity of this club doesn't belong to RD, but to the fans. We still play in red, we still have our name and our logo and we still have our home. While we have that identity we have hope that our club can once again be reinvigorated.
Were Red Bull to take over and set about making the sort of changes that they have done to other teams in the Red Bull football network, and rest assured they will, we will see our identity eroded completely.
I am a Charlton Athletic supporter, not a Red Bull Charlton supporter. Our home is the Valley, not the Red Bull Arena.
If this were to happen then a phoenix club, which retains the true identity of Charlton Athletic, is inevitable. It means far to much to all of us to have it taken away by a string of corporate tyrants.
An AFC Charlton would have nothing. It would be a tiny nomad club, ground sharing somewhere in front of 500 to 1000 supporters at most
Quite. That's how AFC Wimbledon started. Remind of the result the other week, again?
AFC Wimbledon had more than 1000. I think they averaged 3,500 in the first year.
Mateschitz and his empire certainly have enough capital to meet Roly's preposterous asking price but Dietrich didn't get to be super rich by paying over the odds. Red Bull sponsors a lot of sport here in the UK already, a lot of it automotive and at several levels, not just higher profile. None which gets the kind of exposure that even 3rd division football enjoys. Premier League riches outstrip Bundesliga and RB wouldn't have to accommodate Germany's '50% + 1' fan ownership rules either. "Careful what we wish for" and "frying pan & fire" ain't without resonance but this frying pan is effing hot and the handle's coming loose and the customer-hating short-order cook wielding it hadn't been in a kitchen before she got this job. After two and a half years of Roly's failing toxic pantomime I'm ready to take my chances with somebody new. Manchester City get plenty brickbats for "buying the title, blah blah" but where would that club be without the Abu Dhabi cash machine? Which incidentally also now holds stakes in Melbourne, Yokohama and New York City football clubs. A sobering thought if players were on the shopping list, rather than clubs: a multi-million pound deal for a teenager would prolong Roly's fucktarded meddling not curtail it. Now I'd much rather RB bought it lock, stock and barrels than facilitate that septuagenarian shitforbrains hanging on and on...
Guten Tag Red Bull, willkommen nach Charlton, wir freuen uns auf eine lange und erfolgreiche Beziehung. Bitte entlassen Sie Slade, er ist nutzlos.
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Some would just be happy that Duchatelet has gone and that the new owners don't do failure ? (i've heard that before some where)
If they reproduced their formula in England that has got them speeding up the Leagues in Germany the Football tourists would flood in with new fans ironically being the type that Katrien has always dreamed of.
Success on the pitch but at what price ?
Dietrich Mateschitz the 72 year old owner is worth 14.7 billion(august 2016)
This isn't Bull shit.
This story could have
legsWheels.I don't recall similar hatred and protests aimed at Wolfsburg (funded by Volkswagen), Ingolstadt (funded by Audi), Hoffenheim (funded by a german software guy) and Leverkusen (funded by Bayer).
Personally if i was German, i'd have thought any club that could potentially rise up and challenge Bayern Munich was a good thing.
If it didn't change our identity at all, or even came at a price of "The Redbull Valley" it would be good, but any more I couldn't stomach it. We're not a franchise, we're Charlton Athletic
The others are historic ties to local companies
And Ingolstadt are only 12 years old due to a merger of 2 teams, that have relied on far less money than RB Leipzig to get to where they are now, and Hoffenheim were always a 4th or 5th tier team before being bought by Hopp, which is the equivalent of a billionaire from Maidstone buying them and pumping money into the club until they are in the top flight, are you seriously saying the 500 or so fans of Maidstone right now wouldn't want a piece of that?
Royal Borough of Greenwich FC. Shortened to RB Greenwich.
"Careful what we wish for" and "frying pan & fire" ain't without resonance but this frying pan is effing hot and the handle's coming loose and the customer-hating short-order cook wielding it hadn't been in a kitchen before she got this job. After two and a half years of Roly's failing toxic pantomime I'm ready to take my chances with somebody new. Manchester City get plenty brickbats for "buying the title, blah blah" but where would that club be without the Abu Dhabi cash machine? Which incidentally also now holds stakes in Melbourne, Yokohama and New York City football clubs.
A sobering thought if players were on the shopping list, rather than clubs: a multi-million pound deal for a teenager would prolong Roly's fucktarded meddling not curtail it. Now I'd much rather RB bought it lock, stock and barrels than facilitate that septuagenarian shitforbrains hanging on and on...
Guten Tag Red Bull, willkommen nach Charlton, wir freuen uns auf eine lange und erfolgreiche Beziehung. Bitte entlassen Sie Slade, er ist nutzlos.