I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
Well get to the next meeting and propose your ideas.
Or go off and do it yourself like you did last time and drum up the support to increase the numbers/impact.
To me, CARD seems like a small number that meet behind the curtains of the local Italian restaurant sending out messages via its 'runners'.
It isn't though. Imagining something doesn't make it real.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
Well get to the next meeting and propose your ideas.
Or go off and do it yourself like you did last time and drum up the support to increase the numbers/impact.
To me, CARD seems like a small number that meet behind the curtains of the local Italian restaurant sending out messages via its 'runners'.It needs to have a bit more transparency for it to have any serious credibility with the masses. I've never (despite my record) been invited, nor contacted re CARD, and TBH, it maybe doesnt fit my agenda nor CARD's.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
Well get to the next meeting and propose your ideas.
Or go off and do it yourself like you did last time and drum up the support to increase the numbers/impact.
To me, CARD seems like a small number that meet behind the curtains of the local Italian restaurant sending out messages via its 'runners'.It needs to have a bit more transparency for it to have any serious credibility with the masses. I've never (despite my record) been invited, nor contacted re CARD, and TBH, it maybe doesnt fit my agenda nor CARD's.
Not surprised after what you done in Belgium
What have *you* done ?
Sorry president was meant to be a joke? Are any of the Belgium lot on card
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
Well get to the next meeting and propose your ideas.
Or go off and do it yourself like you did last time and drum up the support to increase the numbers/impact.
To me, CARD seems like a small number that meet behind the curtains of the local Italian restaurant sending out messages via its 'runners'.It needs to have a bit more transparency for it to have any serious credibility with the masses. I've never (despite my record) been invited, nor contacted re CARD, and TBH, it maybe doesnt fit my agenda nor CARD's.
Not surprised after what you done in Belgium
What have *you* done ?
Sorry president was meant to be a joke? Are any of the Belgium lot on card
Dont know. Maybe thats one of the problems , in the apparent clandestine way it acts.
Until people who are unhappy with CARD and think this scum ownership deserve one hell of a lot more bashing actually mobilise and do something (like @The_President actually has done) then we as a fanbase are going to get what we deserve.
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:- Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
This comment pretty much shows that Mr Triggs is proud of being the kind of annoying little man who inserts himself where he's not welcome.
Clearly, the only protests that have made any impact have been the ones in Belgium. Any others are laughed and sneered upon by KM and RD. The only way is Belgium.
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:- Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
This comment pretty much shows that Mr Triggs is proud of being the kind of annoying little man who inserts himself where he's not welcome.
Are you able to post the content please IS? I cannot access Facebook as I do not have an account.
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:- Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
This comment pretty much shows that Mr Triggs is proud of being the kind of annoying little man who inserts himself where he's not welcome.
Are you able to post the content please IS? I cannot access Facebook as I do not have an account.
Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
Clearly, the only protests that have made any impact have been the ones in Belgium. Any others are laughed and sneered upon by KM and RD. The only way is Belgium.
As I said earlier, you're entitled to your opinion.
Not going to get involved in a pissing contest.
I wish you every success in whatever further protests you want to organise.
And don't forget, the protest fund is open to all fans protests ideas.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
Oi don't you even think about stopping me going in the club shop tomorrow night you won't make Walsall if you do
I support CARD initiatives, but nothing would ever stop me from truly doing something.
However I was online today thinking of buying my son the new away shirt (he has been a bit down with me working abroad), but I couldn't bring myself to buy him one and give the regime my money. Instead I went over to NFL.com and bought him an Oakland Raiders shirt.
Was that before or after Duchatelet bought shares in them?
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
It'll be less than that but the point still stands.
I personally don't understand why anyone who has ever protested would still go to home matches.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
Wouldn't be surprised if they announced 8500 but I cannot fathom there being 2000 advance sales.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
Wouldn't be surprised if they announced 8500 but I cannot fathom there being 2000 advance sales.
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:- Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
This comment pretty much shows that Mr Triggs is proud of being the kind of annoying little man who inserts himself where he's not welcome.
Are you able to post the content please IS? I cannot access Facebook as I do not have an account.
It's a comment on someone else's post on things on Facebook being public, to which he responds...
"I am mystified by people who get the hump when I add a comment to a thread I disagree with because they then decide that it's none of my business. Don't post nonsense, then."
No biggie, but he's clearly the kind of person who relishes a confrontation.
This just looks like a simple case of people getting their wires crossed and talking at crossed purposes.
Granpa posted the original comment about getting the Old Bill involved. ESL then gave it the old "nobody tells me what to do" but it wasn't him at the shop as he wasn't there. Sarge got told to fuck off by someone outside the shop, but it wasn't ESL (as he wasn't there) but it may or may not have been Granpa or it could've been someone else entirely.
Anyway, there is no libel, nobody's calling the police and nobody's getting a wallop.
Confused? you will be!
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Great post. Had to read it again with the music playing:
Re the shop. on SE7 Valiant:- Malcolm Triggs "Several of them tried to prevent me going to the shop on Saturday (I wasn't going to, but I thought I would once I saw the picket). I resisted the temptation to debate the issues as it would have been unfair to pick on foot soldiers while the generals were hiding away."
What a melon, so he was going to go out of his way, simply to cause a dispute?
I also love the foot soldiers/generals comment, does Mr. Melon realise it's a protest led by supporters, not a military operation!
This comment pretty much shows that Mr Triggs is proud of being the kind of annoying little man who inserts himself where he's not welcome.
Are you able to post the content please IS? I cannot access Facebook as I do not have an account.
It's a comment on someone else's post on things on Facebook being public, to which he responds...
"I am mystified by people who get the hump when I add a comment to a thread I disagree with because they then decide that it's none of my business. Don't post nonsense, then."
No biggie, but he's clearly the kind of person who relishes a confrontation.
I'm not happy with what CARD has done so far . We needed to be out of our blocks as quickly as possible to show RD and KM that we are not giving up - and needed to re-double our efforts to show that we are not going away. This has failed - and we need alternative. more astute and agile methods this season ie......now.
You're entitled to your opinion. CARD considers all the angles and makes it's decisions for right or wrong. If we had announced a major protest in the ground versus Northampton and it failed spectacularly, that would be worse in my opinion. We think about what blows to land and when to land them for best effect.
Nothing's failed yet. This is a long game.
Davo what are CARD scared of though call for a boycott on one of the games even if 6000 go in CARD know where they stand if 4000 go in CARD have a result
I don't think it needs organising or could be effectively, but it's happening anyway. Wait for tomorrow!
6000 season tickets 2000 advance sales/pay on day 500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
They can declare any crowd they like. I'm sure there will be more comps issued and counted regardless. The shortfall of people in the stadium will be apparent and if it's too big a discrepancy it will become another media story.
In any case, an official crowd of 8,500 in the league (it may well be more) is a disaster set against the last 20 years.
As for boycotts, none of the ST number, the comps or the away figure are likely to be affected by one. It could only impact on the small proportion buying match tickets, which as above make relatively little difference to the official gate.
Is it really likely that people who have bought an ST in these circumstances are going to stay away because someone else tells them to do so, rather than because they aren't able or can't be bothered to go to a particular game, which already happens.
Clearly, the only protests that have made any impact have been the ones in Belgium. Any others are laughed and sneered upon by KM and RD. The only way is Belgium.
As I said earlier, you're entitled to your opinion.
Not going to get involved in a pissing contest.
I wish you every success in whatever further protests you want to organise.
And don't forget, the protest fund is open to all fans protests ideas.
CARD My struggle this season, the approach isn't working as they need numbers. they also need to listen more to the fan base that they are supposed to represent.
What happened to events like the Woolwich meeting? have one of these every month where people can turn up and voice there opinions.
CARD My struggle this season, the approach isn't working as they need numbers. they also need to listen more to the fan base that they are supposed to represent.
What happened to events like the Woolwich meeting? have one of these every month where people can turn up and voice there opinions.
What is it that you think the fan base are saying that they are not listening to?
Clearly, the only protests that have made any impact have been the ones in Belgium.
Really? Is the club up for sale?
I am just quoting this again as it deserves to be re-iterated. Pres, your protest was admirable, but thus far has proved as fruitless as the efforts of CARD that you deride.
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Are any of the Belgium lot on card
Just thinking out loud, you understand!
Not going to get involved in a pissing contest.
I wish you every success in whatever further protests you want to organise.
And don't forget, the protest fund is open to all fans protests ideas.
2000 advance sales/pay on day
500 Shrewsbury
Advertised gate of 8500
I personally don't understand why anyone who has ever protested would still go to home matches.
"I am mystified by people who get the hump when I add a comment to a thread I disagree with because they then decide that it's none of my business. Don't post nonsense, then."
No biggie, but he's clearly the kind of person who relishes a confrontation.
In any case, an official crowd of 8,500 in the league (it may well be more) is a disaster set against the last 20 years.
As for boycotts, none of the ST number, the comps or the away figure are likely to be affected by one. It could only impact on the small proportion buying match tickets, which as above make relatively little difference to the official gate.
Is it really likely that people who have bought an ST in these circumstances are going to stay away because someone else tells them to do so, rather than because they aren't able or can't be bothered to go to a particular game, which already happens.
As Arnie might say....we'll be in touch !.
Not one of his more memorable lines.
What happened to events like the Woolwich meeting? have one of these every month where people can turn up and voice there opinions.