I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
If fans can kick against CARD, then CARD can kick against fans. That won't happen though because it is not what CARD is about. Not sure how those who want the owner out and are trying to do something to affect it can not be classed as genuine fans. Anyway in your mind it is all about socialists so maybe a bit pointless even responding to you.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
Genuine question, do you have a problem with our current owners and how the club is being run?
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
Genuine question, do you have a problem with our current owners and how the club is being run?
Players, managers and owners will come and go but the club will always remain and will be the one in which I support. Look what the likes of Newcastle and Leeds have been through but their fans still support the team home and away regardless of the ownership. We deploy actions used by Blackpool who have continued on a downward spiral in terms of gates and falling down the leagues. Our owner still invests. So in answer to your question, things haven't been run correctly, but it appears now that has been addressed. How many of the Regiemes players were in the starting 11 last night?? Even at Bury once their goal went in the anti Roland songs began. Do you really think that is going to encourage the players? That's what gives genuine fans the needle, so if you don't want to support the club then don't go but leave the genuine fans there to support the team.
But would all of these problems been addressed without the protests and if the protests against the owners stop will they revert back to type?
It isn't just about regime players, it is about players and a squad of the required quality and depth. It is about having owners who care about results on the pitch not just producing Premiership players of the future of which we get a fleeting glimpse before they are sold off. I realise that the majority of clubs outside of the Premiership will sell on their star players but to have it stated as the unique fan experience our owners envisage for us is not acceptable.
What defines a genuine fan? Were the fans that didn't go to Selhurst Park but campaigned for The Valley Party which eventually resulted in our return to The Valley not genuine fans because they didn't attend games?
I personally take a little bit more convincing that the owners have genuinely changed than a win, however convincing, against Shrewsbury.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
These are the same fans that want change, but can't be arsed to do anything about it. They then slag off those who are actually getting off of their backside and attempting to do something!
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
There are some people who are frustrated that CARD are not extreme enough. I.E pitch invasions, full boycotts.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
have you counted them?
Because this site is social media and there is a lot of support for CARD on here. I would say the majority on this, the largest Charlton social media site support the protests and CARD to some extent, even those who didn't like the shop protest have said they support CARD.
Or are you are talking about about the facebook page or other message boards with about a dozen posters page where many change their Roland stance more often than their underpants? Two defeats and its "Roland out", one win and it "Everything is OK, stop moaning, another defeat and it will be back to "Roland out".
So it seems from social media there is a lot of support for protest. More importantly CARD also has support in the real world not just from behind a keyboard.
That is shown by the huge numbers on the funeral march, the £30k raised, the 800 shirts sold, the number of people throwing beach balls, protesting after games etc etc etc.
Your real problem @WhenIwasLittleBoy is that you don't like Rick and what you think are his politics so whatever he did you would oppose. That's fine, that's your "right" (sic) but at least be honest and don't hide behind "people on social media say".
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
have you counted them?
Because this site is social media and there is a lot of support for CARD on here. I would say the majority on this, the largest Charlton social media site support the protests and CARD to some extent, even those who didn't like the shop protest have said they support CARD.
Or are you are talking about about the facebook page or other message boards with about a dozen posters page where many change their Roland stance more often than their underpants? Two defeats and its "Roland out", one win and it "Everything is OK, stop moaning, another defeat and it will be back to "Roland out".
So it seems from social media there is a lot of support for protest. More importantly CARD also has support in the real world not just from behind a keyboard.
That is shown by the huge numbers on the funeral march, the £30k raised, the 800 shirts sold, the number of people throwing beach balls, protesting after games etc etc etc.
Your real problem @WhenIwasLittleBoy is that you don't like Rick and what you think are his politics so whatever he did you would oppose. That's fine, that's your "right" (sic) but at least be honest and don't hide behind "people on social media say".
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
have you counted them?
Because this site is social media and there is a lot of support for CARD on here. I would say the majority on this, the largest Charlton social media site support the protests and CARD to some extent, even those who didn't like the shop protest have said they support CARD.
Or are you are talking about about the facebook page or other message boards with about a dozen posters page where many change their Roland stance more often than their underpants? Two defeats and its "Roland out", one win and it "Everything is OK, stop moaning, another defeat and it will be back to "Roland out".
So it seems from social media there is a lot of support for protest. More importantly CARD also has support in the real world not just from behind a keyboard.
That is shown by the huge numbers on the funeral march, the £30k raised, the 800 shirts sold, the number of people throwing beach balls, protesting after games etc etc etc.
Your real problem @WhenIwasLittleBoy is that you don't like Rick and what you think are his politics so whatever he did you would oppose. That's fine, that's your "right" (sic) but at least be honest and don't hide behind "people on social media say".
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
So not paying him any money does not effect the owner? F***ing strange kind of capitalist you are...
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
Genuine question, do you have a problem with our current owners and how the club is being run?
Players, managers and owners will come and go but the club will always remain and will be the one in which I support. Look what the likes of Newcastle and Leeds have been through but their fans still support the team home and away regardless of the ownership. We deploy actions used by Blackpool who have continued on a downward spiral in terms of gates and falling down the leagues. Our owner still invests. So in answer to your question, things haven't been run correctly, but it appears now that has been addressed. How many of the Regiemes players were in the starting 11 last night?? Even at Bury once their goal went in the anti Roland songs began. Do you really think that is going to encourage the players? That's what gives genuine fans the needle, so if you don't want to support the club then don't go but leave the genuine fans there to support the team.
We all support the club, CARD activist or not but don't ever forget that the one person who came out in public to say in effect that she did not support the Club was Katrien Meire herself when she said she didn't care about its past history.
Didn't care about the club which employs her?
The history is the club, a major part of which is, as you say, the players, owners and managers which have come and gone together with the fan base which in recent living memory saved the club by mobilising and getting us back to The Valley.
By all means celebrate success on the field - but don't be fooled by the regime sound-bites telling you that 'we listened' we learned' You, the supporter (preferred term customer) mean absolutely nothing to Katrien Meire and if you happen to be over 60 then your views mean even less than nothing.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that.
Are you actually for real?
There are fans on social media sites that have had enough of CARD. This a fact should you wish to accept it or not is entire your choice.
have you counted them?
Because this site is social media and there is a lot of support for CARD on here. I would say the majority on this, the largest Charlton social media site support the protests and CARD to some extent, even those who didn't like the shop protest have said they support CARD.
Or are you are talking about about the facebook page or other message boards with about a dozen posters page where many change their Roland stance more often than their underpants? Two defeats and its "Roland out", one win and it "Everything is OK, stop moaning, another defeat and it will be back to "Roland out".
So it seems from social media there is a lot of support for protest. More importantly CARD also has support in the real world not just from behind a keyboard.
That is shown by the huge numbers on the funeral march, the £30k raised, the 800 shirts sold, the number of people throwing beach balls, protesting after games etc etc etc.
Your real problem @WhenIwasLittleBoy is that you don't like Rick and what you think are his politics so whatever he did you would oppose. That's fine, that's your "right" (sic) but at least be honest and don't hide behind "people on social media say".
Clearly you choose which sites you elect to look at or posts to read. Since CARD has been up and running in have been called "scab and tosser" . Once you confront these people face to face and I ask them to say it to say to my face like a real man the colour soon drains from their face. As for these fans who no longer go to home games no doubt they will be there in their thousands at Walsall.
In a nutshell and in true south East London speech.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
Where have I said this? Where has CARD?
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
Where have I said this? Where has CARD?
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
So just to clarify as you have stated "what goes on in my imagination" CARD have never urged people to boycott matches???
Can you confirm this?
You also state that the CARD volunteers are every bit as good supporters as I will ever be.
I take it you know me and how long I have been following the club?
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
Where have I said this? Where has CARD?
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
So just to clarify as you have stated "what goes on in my imagination" CARD have never urged people to boycott matches???
Can you confirm this?
You also state that the CARD volunteers are every bit as good supporters as I will ever be.
I take it you know me and how long I have been following the club?
If not then how can you judge?
Who said the length of time you have been supporting the club is any indication of how good a supporter you are?
If you make up your own criteria you can prove anything...
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
Where have I said this? Where has CARD?
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
So just to clarify as you have stated "what goes on in my imagination" CARD have never urged people to boycott matches???
Can you confirm this?
You also state that the CARD volunteers are every bit as good supporters as I will ever be.
I take it you know me and how long I have been following the club?
If not then how can you judge?
I don't need to know you, although it's funny that you presume to know my political views even though you don't beyond my allegiance to a major political party. I do know the volunteers and see their passion and commitment. You choose to deny that, even though you don't know what you are talking about. So I am confident in my assertion that your support is not better than theirs, although I leave open the possibility that it matches it.
CARD has never called for people to stay away from matches.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
I didn't say I didn't want people to protest, I do, I just want people to be mindful of others, whether people want to believe it or not there are a handful of protesting supporters giving others grief just like there are a handful of sympathisers given CARD volunteers grief for just handing out flyers. Neither is on, NOONE should feel uncomfortable at Charlton except the regime.
CARD is like the Labour Party losing support at a rapid pace. Social media sites prove that. Genuine fans want to go and support their team and not have games held up and listen to chants that have nothing to do with supporting the team.
If you don't wish to attend games due to the fact that you don't agree with the club is being run that's your decision, however if fans want to kick against CARD and they will begin to don't be surprised.
CARD activists are "genuine fans". it's laughable to imply otherwise.
As well as there are fans that don't wish to be associated with CARD and would rather support the team rather than listen to the anti songs. By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying. That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so. Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
Where have I said this? Where has CARD?
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
So just to clarify as you have stated "what goes on in my imagination" CARD have never urged people to boycott matches???
Can you confirm this?
You also state that the CARD volunteers are every bit as good supporters as I will ever be.
I take it you know me and how long I have been following the club?
If not then how can you judge?
I don't need to know you, although it's funny that you presume to know my political views even though you don't beyond my allegiance to a major political party. I do know the volunteers and see their passion and commitment. You choose to deny that, even though you don't know what you are talking about. So I am confident in my assertion that your support is not better than theirs, although I leave open the possibility that it matches it.
CARD has never called for people to stay away from matches.
So you are saying that CARD volunteers are more passionate about the club than most fans? Interesting view
Cyber warriors are out in force. In terms of how many pregnant were threatened read back and you will see there was one and that's one to many regardless if the lady is pregnant. Men going in with their children and grandchildren. No doubt if one had fronted any of the pathetic excuses of men outside the shop they would have run a mile
A lot of those picketing were women and children. Were you there?
No but my mate walked past them and was told not to buy anything. A picket line is also if you are part of a union or socialist group against an employer. So what are you an employee or a socialist in which then is boardering on left wing anarchy in which one of the voices of CARD has left wing views therefore for that person to bring their own political agenda as a protest is even worse.
In my opinion paying upfront as I have for 24 years sends the message that everything is alright and I am happy with how the club is being run.
This way I can make my decisions based on whether I believe the regime are listening to the fans concerns not just pay up front and hope.
How else would you suggest fans show their displeasure? You don't want us to stop going, you don't want us to sing anti-regime songs. What is left shall we just all pretend everything is ok?
Comments
Look what the likes of Newcastle and Leeds have been through but their fans still support the team home and away regardless of the ownership.
We deploy actions used by Blackpool who have continued on a downward spiral in terms of gates and falling down the leagues.
Our owner still invests.
So in answer to your question, things haven't been run correctly, but it appears now that has been addressed. How many of the Regiemes players were in the starting 11 last night??
Even at Bury once their goal went in the anti Roland songs began.
Do you really think that is going to encourage the players?
That's what gives genuine fans the needle, so if you don't want to support the club then don't go but leave the genuine fans there to support the team.
It isn't just about regime players, it is about players and a squad of the required quality and depth. It is about having owners who care about results on the pitch not just producing Premiership players of the future of which we get a fleeting glimpse before they are sold off. I realise that the majority of clubs outside of the Premiership will sell on their star players but to have it stated as the unique fan experience our owners envisage for us is not acceptable.
What defines a genuine fan? Were the fans that didn't go to Selhurst Park but campaigned for The Valley Party which eventually resulted in our return to The Valley not genuine fans because they didn't attend games?
I personally take a little bit more convincing that the owners have genuinely changed than a win, however convincing, against Shrewsbury.
By stating that you are getting behind the team by singing these songs that have no relevance to the team or players in terms of encouraging then I think you really need to think about what you are saying.
That must be inspiring for the players to have empty sits and the fact that CARD are proud of boycotting in which doesn't really effect the owner but possibly the players more so.
Compound that with fans bet on our team to be relegated as well as go down bottom are you genuinely telling me they are true fans ?
This is also a fact.
People not going have made their own choice.
Because this site is social media and there is a lot of support for CARD on here. I would say the majority on this, the largest Charlton social media site support the protests and CARD to some extent, even those who didn't like the shop protest have said they support CARD.
Or are you are talking about about the facebook page or other message boards with about a dozen posters page where many change their Roland stance more often than their underpants? Two defeats and its "Roland out", one win and it "Everything is OK, stop moaning, another defeat and it will be back to "Roland out".
So it seems from social media there is a lot of support for protest. More importantly CARD also has support in the real world not just from behind a keyboard.
That is shown by the huge numbers on the funeral march, the £30k raised, the 800 shirts sold, the number of people throwing beach balls, protesting after games etc etc etc.
Your real problem @WhenIwasLittleBoy is that you don't like Rick and what you think are his politics so whatever he did you would oppose. That's fine, that's your "right" (sic) but at least be honest and don't hide behind "people on social media say".
Does this make me a splitter?
Didn't care about the club which employs her?
The history is the club, a major part of which is, as you say, the players, owners and managers which have come and gone together with the fan base which in recent living memory saved the club by mobilising and getting us back to The Valley.
By all means celebrate success on the field - but don't be fooled by the regime sound-bites telling you that 'we listened' we learned' You, the supporter (preferred term customer) mean absolutely nothing to Katrien Meire and if you happen to be over 60 then your views mean even less than nothing.
Since CARD has been up and running in have been called "scab and tosser" . Once you confront these people face to face and I ask them to say it to say to my face like a real man the colour soon drains from their face.
As for these fans who no longer go to home games no doubt they will be there in their thousands at Walsall.
In a nutshell and in true south East London speech.
All piss and wind.
It doesn't help the team to taunt opposition fans with the Addams Family song or the Jeremy Kyle song, although at least the latter isn't pointlessly offensive to families with children, etc, but it would be crazy to suggest they impact negatively on the team.
CARD has never urged people to boycott matches either, whatever may have gone on in your imagination. But the people who volunteer for CARD on matchdays because they care about the club and can see it is being destroyed are every bit as good supporters as you will ever be.
Can you confirm this?
You also state that the CARD volunteers are every bit as good supporters as I will ever be.
I take it you know me and how long I have been following the club?
If not then how can you judge?
If you make up your own criteria you can prove anything...
CARD has never called for people to stay away from matches.
or in telling them to boycott season tickets you are actually telling them to boycott matches?
"As such we are urging fans in the former camp to reserve their position until July"
http://charltoncard.tumblr.com/post/140018677981/card-calls-for-season-ticket-boycott
This way I can make my decisions based on whether I believe the regime are listening to the fans concerns not just pay up front and hope.
How else would you suggest fans show their displeasure? You don't want us to stop going, you don't want us to sing anti-regime songs. What is left shall we just all pretend everything is ok?