But not until he's finished work on the training ground.
Jesus this is getting tedious. What the fuck has that got to do with anything. Some fans get the arse with the gaffer and I don't agree with it so lets just bring up the fact that my company are working on the training ground. Fucking grow up
Hope you don't use that kind of language when you're at work. Unless you're having a crafty tab with Roger at tea break
I'm personally not working on it - I hide behind a desk and swear to my hearts content. (to be clear that's not code for "I sit here sucking Roland's dick and defending him" as some twat might like to insinuate)
Lol. You need to calm down mate.
You and work on the training ground is as synonymous to me as NLA and an undercover drugs raid, Lookie filing another set of moody company accounts in his Bermuda Shotts or AFKA in a Pampers factory (testing them out). Don't take it too seriously.
But not until he's finished work on the training ground.
Jesus this is getting tedious. What the fuck has that got to do with anything. Some fans get the arse with the gaffer and I don't agree with it so lets just bring up the fact that my company are working on the training ground. Fucking grow up
Hope you don't use that kind of language when you're at work. Unless you're having a crafty tab with Roger at tea break
I'm personally not working on it - I hide behind a desk and swear to my hearts content. (to be clear that's not code for "I sit here sucking Roland's dick and defending him" as some twat might like to insinuate)
Lol. You need to calm down mate.
You and work on the training ground is as synonymous to me as NLA and an undercover drugs raid, Lookie filing another set of moody company accounts in his Bermuda Shotts or AFKA in a Pampers factory (testing them out). Don't take it too seriously.
He's not, that's why it's two years behind schedule!
Sad times. I've tried to be positive and really liked what I was hearing from slade at the start. I've seen him be narky twice now with louis and this time it was cringe worthy. I have chatted with Louis and know him to be a witty knowledgeable and passionate fan and journo. Slades reaction appears to be one of someone who is totally rattled for some reason. Is this because of the situation the squad is in? Bad results? Combined with louis asking searching questions. Bit of all of this with Slade being moody. I haven't ever seen this from a CAFC manager and I include pardew in that. I don't like it much and neither do most of our fans. All i want is someone to get behind who we can hnite with at this club and so far Russell and it. sad times.
I don't think he sounded too bad. I read this thread first and was expecting far worse. Yes, he appeared a bit frustrated with some of the questions but that is understandable when you're trying to put a positive spin on things. He said it's a 'process' and about 'stability' and it really is. The last thing we need now is more change.
I don't know where our club is going but the constant fan negativity (yes, Louis is a fan) will not help the team on the pitch. I'm sure he senses that and it was probably the reason for some of his 'snappy' responses. He knows what is going on in the dressing room and how it affects his players. It's his job to keep them positive.
There's a fine line between protesting to get the regime out and doing it in such a way that it doesn't affect the players on the pitch. And that's the difficult bit.
How can players be detached from events when everybody is supposed to be in it together?
Same way the Government says we are in it together then attacks the poor and gives to the rich
Only just watched the video of the post match stuff. Really disappointed with Slade. Should not have dug out Louis the way he did. If there are issues then sort them out internally and have a reciprocal degree of civility with the interviewer. It was especially narky and sarcastic, and indeed inadequate, when he fielded the Johnson question.
I've just seen the video on Player - it's even worse with a few other digs and snide remarks from Slade that were missed off the Audioboom audio. Really poor form.
What else he say mate?
A few stares from Russ to Louis, particularly around the patience and pessimism bits, an audible "tut" to Louis's mention of "at a premium".
In response to Louis's mention of the Roger Johnson incident, Slade's first comment was "ok, did you see it?" to Louis, when Louis responded with "not personally but I heard about it", RS said "oh you've heard".
When it goes to the next interviewer, who asks again about the young players' debuts, Slade immediately says "well, it's nice to talk about a bit of positivity".
Got the impression there was something personal there.
Well that's good, always nice to have subtle digs at a journalist who is also a supporter and who selflessly runs a podcast twice a week dedicated to Charlton. I don't expect he necessarily knows the latter two, but it's one of those things where, cliched as it sounds, treat people well because you don't know where they're coming from.
By contrast, I was just thinking about how, after the Bolton match when we were relegated last season, Riga apologized to Louis and I believe one of the lads from the club social media team.
Nothing in this at all. I really think people are looking for things that aren't there. Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
@Swisdom Wouldn't the point of any question be to provoke a reaction??? I think you're being unfair in suggesting that Louis is attempting to provoke a negative reaction. I don't think there's anything in his tone or line of questioning that suggests that.
Frankly, I'm surprised you're bothering with all this when clearly you could be living it up this week in Rio! With your ability to bend, twist, flip, flop and contort on behalf of Roland's Regime, you'd have to be in with more than a chance at a gymnastics gold.
;-)
I'm actually one of those who started the season with some hope and expectation. One last chance and all that. But the lack of signings and 2 utter dogshit performances recently is eating away at that very rapidly.
Not massively no. It's understandable really seeing what's gone on in the last 2 years. A reporter asked a legitimate question that is fundamental as to whether we will be competitive this year or not. Most fans want to hear it and Slade acted like a cock! He knows the score regarding fans vs owners and if he doesn't he's a fool. Done himself no favours and ramped up the pressure on himself and pissed off many fans, not you obviously but I wouldn't expect anything else really.
I genuinely wonder how much he does know and understand. This isn't necessarily a knock on him, sometimes ignorance is bliss. But I think someone with a better understanding of the situation, or at least a better emotional intelligence, would come in here humble, telling the fans things are going to be different and to ask for time and patience when things don't go to plan.
Again, transfers taking longer than expected happens all the time, and before he got snarky with Louis he made a perfectly reasonable point to that effect. But I've not really seen or heard much from him about trying to mend fences and promising the fans better. There was some about it when he was announced as manager, but not loads. I know he can't say "this SMT lot are shit," but I think there are a lot of things he can say, about last year being disappointing and about being here to do better by the supporters, etc. that I haven't heard*.
*Because I find just about every press conference given by a manager to be full of cliches, I tend to tune them out. So if he has said things to this effect, then I apologize.
Nothing in this at all. I really think people are looking for things that aren't there. Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
When you're Alex Ferguson, and you've won everything, you can do it, without loss of respect.
When you're Russell Slade, and you've never won a game, or scored a goal, and you do it, you look a bit of a mug.
Nothing in this at all. I really think people are looking for things that aren't there. Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
Whilst I'm not overly bothered about it, AF did it to national media (not fans outlet), he already had multiple success (not into his second game) and the fans were fully behind him and the club (not at war after a recent relegation)
Nothing in this at all. I really think people are looking for things that aren't there. Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
Whilst I'm not overly bothered about it, AF did it to national media (not fans outlet), he already had multiple success (not into his second game) and the fans were fully behind him and the club (not at war after a recent relegation)
He needs to get us on his side.
I always thought it made Fergie look a prick too. I'll give Slade the benefit of the doubt for now, but he definitely needs to tread carefully with this sort of thing as the honeymoon period is ending rapidly.
Only just watched the video of the post match stuff. Really disappointed with Slade. Should not have dug out Louis the way he did. If there are issues then sort them out internally and have a reciprocal degree of civility with the interviewer. It was especially narky and sarcastic, and indeed inadequate, when he fielded the Johnson question.
Nothing in this at all. I really think people are looking for things that aren't there. Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
Firstly, Russell Slade is no Alex Ferguson. He's not even Darren Ferguson. Secondly, what was stupid about the point being made? And even if it was stupid, is it sensible for a manager to react in this rather infantile way so early in a spell at a club when trying - supposedly - to win fans over?
Only just watched the video of the post match stuff. Really disappointed with Slade. Should not have dug out Louis the way he did. If there are issues then sort them out internally and have a reciprocal degree of civility with the interviewer. It was especially narky and sarcastic, and indeed inadequate, when he fielded the Johnson question.
Just watched the video and Slade is even more of a bell than I thought last night. Absolutely disgusting way to treat Louis. Subtle (and not so subtle) digs during Louis' interview and the next one too - scumbag move Rus
It was interesting to watch Slade during our friendly with Ipswich. I sat within earshot of him and as the game was so crap spent a lot of time observing him on the touchline.
I must admit to being surprised by his behaviour. He was very jumpy and stressed. Often chastising players on the pitch. Very little encouragement or salient advice. He and Johnson had an argument where they both basically told each other to fuck off.
It struck me that he came across as fairly aggro and petulant. Certainly not a calming influence. Knowing his history in the game I expected someone much calmer, supportive and pragmatic. I didn't warm to what I saw.
Therefore his patronising response to the questions Louis posed did not surprise me too much. Regardless of his reasons he has to maintain his professionalism. I believe he has bitten off more than he can chew and is realising that. Louis asked a very straightforward question re transfers. Slade let himself down.
The whole 'apology' situation with RJ suggests Slade does not perhaps command the respect, or hold the influence that maybe many of us thought following his appointment.
As a journalist myself I have to say @LouisMend asked exactly the right question about transfers. If anything, he could and maybe should have asked the same question post Bury.
Rule one of one. Never give an exact period of time out when answering a question because when you can't stick to it you look very silly.
Exactly. If you don't have control over the process, don't give a timeframe.
Local teams here have started to refuse to give target dates for injured players coming back. One was very open about it - if he gives a date and it takes longer to recover than expected, everyone questions the treatment or suggests the player isn't trying hard enough. If they come back earlier than expected, then the team is rushing them back and risking their long term health.
Much easier to say he's injured and in treatment and we'll let you know when he gets to the next stage of his recovery.
Not watched the video but just listened to the audio and it's a total non story, neither party does anything wrong at all. Questions were fine and Slade answered them pretty honestly to be fair
As a journalist myself I have to say @LouisMend asked exactly the right question about transfers. If anything, he could and maybe should have asked the same question post Bury.
Where can we watch the full Russell Slade post cheltenham interview?
Link?
From what people are saying in sounds personal. Slades head is up his own ass for a brief stint and LM got under his skin by just asking relevant basic questions.
If you can't take the heat Slade and your not enjoying it, f*ck off.
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You and work on the training ground is as synonymous to me as NLA and an undercover drugs raid, Lookie filing another set of moody company accounts in his Bermuda Shotts or AFKA in a Pampers factory (testing them out). Don't take it too seriously.
Phew.
Really disappointed with Slade. Should not have dug out Louis the way he did. If there are issues then sort them out internally and have a reciprocal degree of civility with the interviewer. It was especially narky and sarcastic, and indeed inadequate, when he fielded the Johnson question.
By contrast, I was just thinking about how, after the Bolton match when we were relegated last season, Riga apologized to Louis and I believe one of the lads from the club social media team.
Alex Ferguson done this in every interview win or lose. Bloke was making a bloody stupid point and he got a very gentle slap.
Again, transfers taking longer than expected happens all the time, and before he got snarky with Louis he made a perfectly reasonable point to that effect. But I've not really seen or heard much from him about trying to mend fences and promising the fans better. There was some about it when he was announced as manager, but not loads. I know he can't say "this SMT lot are shit," but I think there are a lot of things he can say, about last year being disappointing and about being here to do better by the supporters, etc. that I haven't heard*.
*Because I find just about every press conference given by a manager to be full of cliches, I tend to tune them out. So if he has said things to this effect, then I apologize.
When you're Russell Slade, and you've never won a game, or scored a goal, and you do it, you look a bit of a mug.
He needs to get us on his side.
Secondly, what was stupid about the point being made? And even if it was stupid, is it sensible for a manager to react in this rather infantile way so early in a spell at a club when trying - supposedly - to win fans over?
I must admit to being surprised by his behaviour. He was very jumpy and stressed. Often chastising players on the pitch. Very little encouragement or salient advice. He and Johnson had an argument where they both basically told each other to fuck off.
It struck me that he came across as fairly aggro and petulant. Certainly not a calming influence. Knowing his history in the game I expected someone much calmer, supportive and pragmatic. I didn't warm to what I saw.
Therefore his patronising response to the questions Louis posed did not surprise me too much. Regardless of his reasons he has to maintain his professionalism. I believe he has bitten off more than he can chew and is realising that. Louis asked a very straightforward question re transfers. Slade let himself down.
The whole 'apology' situation with RJ suggests Slade does not perhaps command the respect, or hold the influence that maybe many of us thought following his appointment.
he's never really managed anything other than league one strugglers
1 good season at Leyton Orient where he lost on penalties if you hadn't heard him say it 48 times
Then one season at Cardiff in the championship where they managed to finish two points above our Bob Peeters crouching Luzon wonder season
Marshall, Fabio, Doyle, Macheda, Gunnarsson, Mason, Gabbidon, Le Fondre, Kenwyne Jones, Mason, Maynard et al in the side
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014–15_Cardiff_City_F.C._season
he's a nobody and the players must think similar
Local teams here have started to refuse to give target dates for injured players coming back. One was very open about it - if he gives a date and it takes longer to recover than expected, everyone questions the treatment or suggests the player isn't trying hard enough. If they come back earlier than expected, then the team is rushing them back and risking their long term health.
Much easier to say he's injured and in treatment and we'll let you know when he gets to the next stage of his recovery.
Link?
From what people are saying in sounds personal. Slades head is up his own ass for a brief stint and LM got under his skin by just asking relevant basic questions.
If you can't take the heat Slade and your not enjoying it, f*ck off.
Sound familiar?