Slade getting narky in post match interview

AFKABartram · August 2016

With @LouisMend

Well uncalled for I thought. Talks a great game with a bit of bully sarcasm, touch of the Dowie's emerging. Hope I'm wrong

https://audioboom.com/boos/4916723-listen-cafc-russell-slade-believes-his-side-had-ample-opportunities-to-get-eflcup-win?utm_campaign=detailpage&utm_content=retweet&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Uboat · August 2016

Katrien has got to him. 'They're all out to get us.'

oohaahmortimer · August 2016

if he can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen
made himself sound a bit of a touchy knob there and so did slade , only kidding Louis go get em

LuckyReds · August 2016

I just logged on to post that link.

Obviously doesn't appreciate the fact that he's being called out for looking like a bit of a liar. Bang out of order, and a sign that he's under a bit of pressure from within IMO.

Greenie Junior · August 2016

Fuck him, fuck the lot of them. Wasters.

covered_end_junior · August 2016

Didn't like the end of that from Slade. It was a fair question that everyone wanted the answer to and he should have handled it better.

LargeAddick · August 2016

as I said a couple of days ago he needs to stop putting deadlines of the next signing. There is only one deadline, 31st August. He makes a rod for his own back saying 'next 48 hours' etc and then gets sarky when questioned on it. Sounds like he's feeling the pressure already and he hasn't really begun yet.

Athletico Charlton · August 2016

If he can't handle that interview he is clearly feeling massive pressure already, only two games in. Not looking good.

cabbles · August 2016

Did he call @LouisMend an ostrich

Bedsaddick · August 2016

He won't last 5 minutes with that stroppy attitude. He's obviously realised that he's taken the job from hell.

LuckyReds · August 2016

My money is on a new manager by the end of September, with Roly and Katrien pointing out English isn't always better.

New manager will get no more resources either.

Bedsaddick · August 2016

LargeAddick said:
as I said a couple of days ago he needs to stop putting deadlines of the next signing. There is only one deadline, 31st August. He makes a rod for his own back saying 'next 48 hours' etc and then gets sarky when questioned on it. Sounds like he's feeling the pressure already and he hasn't really begun yet.

31st of August ? We could have lost five games by then and be bottom of the league. If we leave it that late we can kiss this season goodbye.

mrbligh · August 2016

"did you see that, did you see how patient we were"

what a prick. what an absolute prick. join the dodger the douche and the liar and get on your bike. Please take the cliches with you too you two bob bully

we are an utter embarrassment on and off the pitch, have given up my st but had a freebie for saturday and for some absurd reason was planning on taking my 2 year old for his first game. fuck that! the valley is plastered with advertising, the team is a joke (bar one or two) and the 'manager' is another one off the conveyor belt of belgian bullshit, they have destroyed almost every reason to support charlton athletic in under three years

Fumbluff · August 2016

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FORD · August 2016

They're testing my patience!

Bloody patience...yeah that's what we need when we're totally unprepared for the season.

We all know they're waiting for the unattached, unfit and desperate to play anywhere list to be published.

How long did they Johnson around trying to sign Foley? Tres incompetence!

SDAddick · August 2016

Saw some of the reactions on here before listening to the interview, thought there might be a bit of an overreaction, given I've felt he's gotten more praise than he's deserved for "good pressers." But when I heard it, I just kept saying "wow." It was so petulant and unprofessional. And unnecessary.

Completely agree with @LargeAddick, it's a mistake to put time tables next to transfer. Slade had an absolutely valid point that sometimes these things take longer than expect, it happens to perfectly competent football clubs as well. But his response after that was snarky and stupid.

I've said before that whatever he says to journalists or in press conferences, good or bad, won't really impact my judgement of him as a manager. And that still stands, but I have been put off him as a person a bit.

AshBurton · August 2016

Interesting times, putting it politely. It just gets worse every single day. Check the account in the morning @Curb_It

charltonbob · August 2016

Was that actually Slade ? Sounded like David Brent .............. though a little less believable. Go on do the dance Russ :-)

Chizz · August 2016

What's surprising is that he sounded so petulant despite getting his best result of the season so far.

Exiled_Addick · August 2016

SDAddick said:
Saw some of the reactions on here before listening to the interview, thought there might be a bit of an overreaction, given I've felt he's gotten more praise than he's deserved for "good pressers." But when I heard it, I just kept saying "wow." It was so petulant and unprofessional. And unnecessary.

Completely agree with @LargeAddick, it's a mistake to put time tables next to transfer. Slade had an absolutely valid point that sometimes these things take longer than expect, it happens to perfectly competent football clubs as well. But his response after that was snarky and stupid.

It was a bit snarky, and not called for, but it is the sort of thing more illustrious managers than Slade do all the time. Admittedly when dealing with fleet street hacks rather than the likes of friendly young Palace Louis.

In an ideal world Slade would keep quiet about transfers but a few thoughts:

1) Slade knows he has to be seen to be separate from the regime. One of the things the regime is most criticised for is its lack/quality of transfer activity. I think Slade feels under a bit of pressure to keep reassuring fans that they are trying to get deals done and for good quality players that we want, rather than just signing any old piece of crap just because they are available and easy deals to do.

2) Another criticism has been that there has been insufficient communication from the club with fans. If they were saying nothing about incoming deals everyone would be up in arms about the silence. It's not an easy balance for him to strike right now as everyone external to the club seems to be looking for the slightest excuse to criticise every little thing that is said or done even remotely out of turn. Short of publically calling KM a c*nt and winning every game 6-0 (and neither of those are likely) he is a little bit damned if he does and damned if doesn't right now.

3) For all the fact that not enough transfers have been done yet, I think it's fair to say that the deals that have been done were the kind of signings most fans were asking for and I can understand why Slade might feel a bit defensive about the fact that he has chosen to wait, where he had to, to get the right deals done. He's the first manager under this lot to get more than a token signing of his choice to supplement the network cast offs, we don't know how much of a fight hat has been for him and maybe he feels he's not getting the credit he thinks he deserves for that.

4) I think Louis' question was fair and respectful, but if he was in a touchy mood, as he might well be having suffered a second frustrating defeat in a week, he might be forgiven for interpreting it that Louis was questioning how honest Slade was being about the deal. Like I say, doesn't mean he had to do that as Louis is a good egg and a fair journo, but I don't suppose Slade was having the best day of his life and it's hardly like he said anything offensive about Louis.

Rob · August 2016

I don't think he sounded too bad. I read this thread first and was expecting far worse. Yes, he appeared a bit frustrated with some of the questions but that is understandable when you're trying to put a positive spin on things. He said it's a 'process' and about 'stability' and it really is. The last thing we need now is more change.

I don't know where our club is going but the constant fan negativity (yes, Louis is a fan) will not help the team on the pitch. I'm sure he senses that and it was probably the reason for some of his 'snappy' responses. He knows what is going on in the dressing room and how it affects his players. It's his job to keep them positive.

There's a fine line between protesting to get the regime out and doing it in such a way that it doesn't affect the players on the pitch. And that's the difficult bit.

InspectorSands · August 2016

Ouch. None of this sounds good.

(And yeah, he does sound a bit like David Brent when he gets annoyed...)

Nug · August 2016

Awful interview. Disappointed with that, thought Slade had a bit more about him, totally under pressure, can't get what he wants to improve the team and knows the fans are going to give the club hell if things don't change. He's on a hiding to nothing and each day that goes by he's realising it. It's a shame as I think he could do a decent job given suitable resources.

SDAddick · August 2016

Exiled_Addick said:

SDAddick said:
Saw some of the reactions on here before listening to the interview, thought there might be a bit of an overreaction, given I've felt he's gotten more praise than he's deserved for "good pressers." But when I heard it, I just kept saying "wow." It was so petulant and unprofessional. And unnecessary.

Completely agree with @LargeAddick, it's a mistake to put time tables next to transfer. Slade had an absolutely valid point that sometimes these things take longer than expect, it happens to perfectly competent football clubs as well. But his response after that was snarky and stupid.
It was a bit snarky, and not called for, but it is the sort of thing more illustrious managers than Slade do all the time. Admittedly when dealing with fleet street hacks rather than the likes of friendly young Palace Louis.

In an ideal world Slade would keep quiet about transfers but a few thoughts:

1) Slade knows he has to be seen to be separate from the regime. One of the things the regime is most criticised for is its lack/quality of transfer activity. I think Slade feels under a bit of pressure to keep reassuring fans that they are trying to get deals done and for good quality players that we want, rather than just signing any old piece of crap just because they are available and easy deals to do.

2) Another criticism has been that there has been insufficient communication from the club with fans. If they were saying nothing about incoming deals everyone would be up in arms about the silence. It's not an easy balance for him to strike right now as everyone external to the club seems to be looking for the slightest excuse to criticise every little thing that is said or done even remotely out of turn. Short of publically calling KM a c*nt and winning every game 6-0 (and neither of those are likely) he is a little bit damned if he does and damned if doesn't right now.

3) For all the fact that not enough transfers have been done yet, I think it's fair to say that the deals that have been done were the kind of signings most fans were asking for and I can understand why Slade might feel a bit defensive about the fact that he has chosen to wait, where he had to, to get the right deals done. He's the first manager under this lot to get more than a token signing of his choice to supplement the network cast offs, we don't know how much of a fight hat has been for him and maybe he feels he's not getting the credit he thinks he deserves for that.

4) I think Louis' question was fair and respectful, but if he was in a touchy mood, as he might well be having suffered a second frustrating defeat in a week, he might be forgiven for interpreting it that Louis was questioning how honest Slade was being about the deal. Like I say, doesn't mean he had to do that as Louis is a good egg and a fair journo, but I don't suppose Slade was having the best day of his life and it's hardly like he said anything offensive about Louis.

You certainly make some well thought out and articulated points. Just going through them one-by-one.

.5: yes, more prestigious managers absolutely get away with this kind of thing, But only a select few, and oftentimes one who are either very, very successful (Lord Ferg, Mourinho) or proper hard if not a bit mediocre (Moyes, Keane, Pullis, Hughes). Personally, it drives me nuts. Also, just for the sake of you own image, and even your own sanity, these aren't the Sky Cameras he's talking into. It's local journos, fans, and fans of rival clubs. He's going to be seeing them after pretty much every game for the rest of the year.

1) Fair enough, he is certainly walking a tightrope. That said, our transfer policy this summer hasn't exactly blown me away. But I agree, and I tried to mention just as such, transfers are often longwinded and complicated. I think he makes it hard for himself by putting in timelines then constantly miss them. Just say "Look, we're doing everything we can." Some people will react negatively no matter what, so play straight with them. Sometimes saying you don't know is the best, and smartest thing you can do.

2) Yes, I agree that to an extent, there is no winning here. But when I talk about his comments being unnecessary, this is what I'm referring to. He's got a rough time of it, though how rough, and how aware he is of the fans' displeasure with the regime and the reasons why I don't know. But he is likely to have a tough season. So his little moment of petulance (and it was a only a moment) is shooting himself a bit in the foot when he needs all the credit and good will he can get.

3) As far as the signings most fans want, I suspect you're right, but I've been very vocal in the fact that I do not think a traditional British manager and a team made up of British lower league journeyman are the answer. I'll abstain on that.

To the other point, regarding budgets and things, you're right, I don't know what his budget is, or was, or how it evolves when players go out the door, or if it evolves. But we have glaring holes in our squad, and I feel that some of the players we've chosen to use as reinforcements just aren't up to it.

4) Disagree completely, never liked anything Louis' done, even before it turned out he's Palace.

That said, can't wait for Charlton Live on Thursday

Lastly, no one died here. Tensions are running high for all the well stated reasons. I'm not trying to blow this up into something it isn't. He didn't do a RoJo. It was just a silly and disappointing moment from him. We all have them. I am the most condescending and petulant when I don't intend to be. The best outcome for me would be to take Louis aside at some point and just say "sorry if I was a little prickly on that."

mascot88 · August 2016

here we go ... unravelling before the season has even got going...

Avoiding League 2 is my only aim this year... getting rid of the belgium morons is the permanent aim...

queensland_addick · August 2016

I reckon the frustration comes from the fact that he can't land the kind of players he was hoping for, following Ajose, which was really just a false dawn. What ambitious, talented and experienced player in their right mind, would choose to come to Charlton right now? Ajose was probably convinced by Slade that this was a fresh start. Since then, the squad has been decimated. Players in demand normally have plenty of choice and different options, here and abroad, Charlton would be last on their list. Hence, we end up with aging pro's who have lost their legs and are grateful for one last contract. In contrast, Slade wouldn't get offered a three year contract too often, and he snapped it up, without worrying too much about the history of his employers, or the feeling amongst supporters.

Dave2l · August 2016

Slade...how low are your standards?

Get a f*cking grip. Stop trying to sell minor positives. It was an embarrassment and embarrassing scoreline. You don't necessarily have to say we were awful just that we need to rapidly increase our performances.

Just say where working hard to put everything right on and off the field.

He's a frustrated manager that is starting to sound like his boss for a brief 30 seconds.

It's not patience. It's shit.

Dave2l · August 2016

He's angry and took it out on the wrong person and its fallen in the public eye.

Chunes · August 2016

You would expect a manager under pressure to react like that, but we're two games into the season. I think he knows we are in real trouble with this squad.