Balloons are by far the easiest to get in, but I'd say stress balls are far better. Hardly any balloons actually got on but it looked good I suppose. Beach balls made much more of an effect but I'm guessing they're quite a bit more expensive, and need more to take in. With the fuss Burnley are kicking up and the FA investigation there's no doubt the searching will be stepped up a lot so I suppose we need to be a bit creative. I wouldn't be surprised if anyone who was caught with anything was completely turned away.
If there had been any breeze at all in the stadium the game would have been delayed for a seriously long time, there were absolutely thousands of them in the north lower but couldn't get them on the pitch no matter how much you tried. Did a pretty good job though.
I've only got through the first coule of pages of this thread, but cannot believe the comments about being 'fair' to Burnley .......ffs....... whats it got to do with them ???? feck em.....- only Charlton fans would worry about the opposition team - this dredges new lows in my view of some Charlton fans.
Being too nice represents a new low? That's a bit unique, isn't it? I can think of a few worse things.
It's not even about being fair to Burnley. This war has been fought largely through the media. If we get that game called off, then we are the villains. Poor little Burnley. Charlton have gone to far this time. Lack of respect blah blah blah. Katrien can wring her hands and apologise on behalf of the club.
Maybe you can explain the benefits of being the game abandoned and we'll see if they outweigh the costs.
I've only got through the first coule of pages of this thread, but cannot believe the comments about being 'fair' to Burnley .......ffs....... whats it got to do with them ???? feck em.....- only Charlton fans would worry about the opposition team - this dredges new lows in my view of some Charlton fans.
Being too nice represents a new low? That's a bit unique, isn't it? I can think of a few worse things.
It's not even about being fair to Burnley. This war has been fought largely through the media. If we get that game called off, then we are the villains. Poor little Burnley. Charlton have gone to far this time. Lack of respect blah blah blah. Katrien can wring her hands and apologise on behalf of the club.
Maybe you can explain the benefits of being the game abandoned and we'll see if they outweigh the costs.
Feck me - "being too nice represents a new low" - , i am at a loss !!!!!!!!!
I've only got through the first coule of pages of this thread, but cannot believe the comments about being 'fair' to Burnley .......ffs....... whats it got to do with them ???? feck em.....- only Charlton fans would worry about the opposition team - this dredges new lows in my view of some Charlton fans.
Being too nice represents a new low? That's a bit unique, isn't it? I can think of a few worse things.
It's not even about being fair to Burnley. This war has been fought largely through the media. If we get that game called off, then we are the villains. Poor little Burnley. Charlton have gone to far this time. Lack of respect blah blah blah. Katrien can wring her hands and apologise on behalf of the club.
Maybe you can explain the benefits of being the game abandoned and we'll see if they outweigh the costs.
Feck me - "being too nice represents a new low" - , i am at a loss !!!!!!!!!
Just reading through about the Burnley comments and sanctions we should get if the match is delayed / abandoned. Surely either would be of benefit to Burnley. If the game is delayed, they could have 10 minutes+ at the end of the game to know what result they need, so an advantage to them over Boro and Brighton. If the game is abandoned and the league deem there is not enough time to replay it due to scheduling off play off etc.. then they would have to award a three-nil win to Burnley. So why all the comments about sanctions etc???
I have some sympathy for the Burnley fans, who will have no real understanding of what is likely to happen, but I'm certain if the situation was reversed they'd do whatever they liked regardless of us. We're better than that.
What is your view on a match abandonment?
May be counter-productive.
Elaborate.
Isn't it obvious? So far we have had the weight of the press and other fans and football groups behind us. If we were to pull a stunt like getting a match abandoned on the final day of the season, the goodwill we have in our favour could start to diminish.
Surely our aim is to remove our current owners, not to potentially ruin up to three other team's season?
Just reading through about the Burnley comments and sanctions we should get if the match is delayed / abandoned. Surely either would be of benefit to Burnley. If the game is delayed, they could have 10 minutes+ at the end of the game to know what result they need, so an advantage to them over Boro and Brighton. If the game is abandoned and the league deem there is not enough time to replay it due to scheduling off play off etc.. then they would have to award a three-nil win to Burnley. So why all the comments about sanctions etc???
It's not only about Burnley though is it? There are potentially three clubs fighting it out for automatic promotion and the title, including Brighton who helped us with our protests last week.
I have some sympathy for the Burnley fans, who will have no real understanding of what is likely to happen, but I'm certain if the situation was reversed they'd do whatever they liked regardless of us. We're better than that.
What is your view on a match abandonment?
May be counter-productive.
Elaborate.
Isn't it obvious? So far we have had the weight of the press and other fans and football groups behind us. If we were to pull a stunt like getting a match abandoned on the final day of the season, the goodwill we have in our favour could start to diminish.
Surely our aim is to remove our current owners, not to potentially ruin up to three other team's season?
It won't ruin their season. 2 out of 3 of them will get in the Prem regardless and the other will definitely make the play-offs, which is the situation as it stands. Making them wait to find out who gets to go straight up will be frustrating but our cause is far more important than the FL's pissing contest. We have over a hundred years of our club's history at risk compared to a week of uncertainty over who gets to win the millions of pounds of Prem money. Lets face it, the FL had no cause to care about Blackpool's plight enough to do more than award a result because Blackpool's game had no impact on the season and in the eyes of the FL Blackpool are an unimportant club who they couldn't care less about.
As it's Burnley perhaps we should go retro for the day to commemorate our FA Cup triumph! I doubt the stewards will allow wooden rattles in but CARD could do some cheap caps, which may or may not end up on the pitch!!!
I have some sympathy for the Burnley fans, who will have no real understanding of what is likely to happen, but I'm certain if the situation was reversed they'd do whatever they liked regardless of us. We're better than that.
What is your view on a match abandonment?
May be counter-productive.
Elaborate.
Isn't it obvious? So far we have had the weight of the press and other fans and football groups behind us. If we were to pull a stunt like getting a match abandoned on the final day of the season, the goodwill we have in our favour could start to diminish.
Surely our aim is to remove our current owners, not to potentially ruin up to three other team's season?
It won't ruin their season. 2 out of 3 of them will get in the Prem regardless and the other will definitely make the play-offs, which is the situation as it stands. Making them wait to find out who gets to go straight up will be frustrating but our cause is far more important than the FL's pissing contest. We have over a hundred years of our club's history at risk compared to a week of uncertainty over who gets to win the millions of pounds of Prem money. Lets face it, the FL had no cause to care about Blackpool's plight enough to do more than award a result because Blackpool's game had no impact on the season and in the eyes of the FL Blackpool are an unimportant club who they couldn't care less about.
I respectfully disagree. Whilst you are correct, 2 of 3 will go up, the only input we should have into that is whether our team wins or loses on the pitch. Why would getting a match abandoned help to remove RD any faster? In my opinion, it will do more harm to our campaign than good. As I've already said, we have goodwill from the press and the wider football network in our favour, why risk that on something that has no guarantee of making any difference at all?
Also, getting a match abandoned risks handing the moral high ground to Meire and the club in general. Initially they waved away the protests as just 2% of fans. Then in a statement with the Police they tried to compare the protests with some violent conduct at the Palace game. Imagine what they would say if fans managed to interfere with a game so much, the referee had to call it off. The press would be all over it, and we could expect to see negative reports from almost every major news outlet. I don't think it's a good idea at all.
I support protests, but I do not support any kind of movement to attempt to get the game abandoned.
I support protests, but I do not support any kind of movement to attempt to get the game abandoned.
Neither do I and as someone who is not willing to be involved in attempts to abandon the match I cannot support those who are planning to do so.
All I am saying is that our fight and protests, whatever the effect it has during the 90 minutes of play, are worth more than the FL's desire to get things done on the day. I also agree that if the result is delayed either beyond 5pm or has to be replayed then there is a sizeable risk of losing goodwill from the fans of other clubs, but at the end of the day what is this goodwill worth? RD does not care what we think, I'm sure he does not care what other fans think.
I also doubt the match will be abandoned, there seems to be very little desire to take the direct action Blackpool's fans did. We're a different club with a different mentality.
I support protests, but I do not support any kind of movement to attempt to get the game abandoned.
Neither do I and as someone who is not willing to be involved in attempts to abandon the match I cannot support those who are planning to do so.
All I am saying is that our fight and protests, whatever the effect it has during the 90 minutes of play, are worth more than the FL's desire to get things done on the day. I also agree that if the result is delayed either beyond 5pm or has to be replayed then there is a sizeable risk of losing goodwill from the fans of other clubs, but at the end of the day what is this goodwill worth? RD does not care what we think, I'm sure he does not care what other fans think.
I also doubt the match will be abandoned, there seems to be very little desire to take the direct action Blackpool's fans did. We're a different club with a different mentality.
Then I think we have crossed wires. My points are particularly regarding the match being abandoned. There has been quite a bit of talk about it recently and I think it's a bad idea. We should however continue to protest in the normal way.
I will just say that the goodwill is worthwhile to our campaign. It adds credibility to the protests and ensures that we are seen as the good guys in all this. Whilst RD himself may not care, it does help to pile the pressure on the club.
I support protests, but I do not support any kind of movement to attempt to get the game abandoned.
Neither do I and as someone who is not willing to be involved in attempts to abandon the match I cannot support those who are planning to do so.
All I am saying is that our fight and protests, whatever the effect it has during the 90 minutes of play, are worth more than the FL's desire to get things done on the day. I also agree that if the result is delayed either beyond 5pm or has to be replayed then there is a sizeable risk of losing goodwill from the fans of other clubs, but at the end of the day what is this goodwill worth? RD does not care what we think, I'm sure he does not care what other fans think.
I also doubt the match will be abandoned, there seems to be very little desire to take the direct action Blackpool's fans did. We're a different club with a different mentality.
Then I think we have crossed wires. My points are particularly regarding the match being abandoned. There has been quite a bit of talk about it recently and I think it's a bad idea. We should however continue to protest in the normal way.
I will just say that the goodwill is worthwhile to our campaign. It adds credibility to the protests and ensures that we are seen as the good guys in all this. Whilst RD himself may not care, it does help to pile the pressure on the club.
I think I am just being vitriolic with regards to people thinking it is more important Burnley getting their party and the FL avoiding grief than us getting our club back. The last thing I want is for my vitriol to be translated as support or a call to illegal or over-the-top action. I'm happy with the level of protests both inside and outside the stadiums, although I think the last game of the season really is 'kitchen sink' time as far as this kind of action goes. I'm certainly not going to be saying anything like 'no ifs, no buts'
To be honest - reading these pages it looks like (quote from Burnley fans forums) a school boy plot to go steal stuff from a tuck shop. WCA - and I think Fiiish confirms this - a lot of the comments on here are whipping up everyone to be brave enough to do x, y and z when the big day comes. I ask a simple question - how does support the team and not the regime fit into everything we read on here. I suppose that doesn't come into it now we are relegated. Then there is the question of legality. Throwing a flare on the pitch is illegal. WCA correctly makes the point about weight of public opinion and media backing. Why jeopardise that? We hold the moral high ground. Don't throw it away. By all means protest, that is the right established by hundreds of years of English Civil Laws. Protest with an element of humour and creativity has and always will be more effective.
I have sympathy with the Burnley fans. Hell - there was collaboration with the Brighton fans. It wouldn't take much for CARD to make simple and effective contact with the Clarets fans groups (and don't forget the support they received as they were about to drop out of Div 4 or whatever it was then called). We would have their sympathy and that contact could alleviate their concern and possibly gain their backing.
Adult behaviour and utilising the business skillsets purportedly possessed by those who run CARD should make the last day of the season a memorable and effective day of protest.
I think we were more than fair, (is there a word directly opposite to unfair?), to Burnley when we showed up at Turf Moor with old Laundry Basket in charge & just handed them 3 lovely points.
Anything that happens here to disrupt the game is the yin to that yang.
I don't think anyone dislikes Burnley just a bit peeved off that some of their fans are complaining about protests that haven't even happened yet, some of their fans think they have the championship in the bag and don't want their celebrations upstaged by protests and some think Protests may cost them the game.
Although I sympathise to an extent with those fans and don't wish them any harm I do want us to try and beat them and give the title to Brighton as they're bloody ace and deserve it more.
Just reading through about the Burnley comments and sanctions we should get if the match is delayed / abandoned. Surely either would be of benefit to Burnley. If the game is delayed, they could have 10 minutes+ at the end of the game to know what result they need, so an advantage to them over Boro and Brighton. If the game is abandoned and the league deem there is not enough time to replay it due to scheduling off play off etc.. then they would have to award a three-nil win to Burnley. So why all the comments about sanctions etc???
This thing about the League awarding a 3 point away win keeps cropping up and is just not true:
All the emphasis is on getting the game replayed. It is very much exceptional that the League even allow the result to stand let alone award a 3-0 win. Even the most recent Blackpool game that was abandoned was declared 0-0.
I entirely agree with WestCountryAddick and Floyd. Let's keep the protests lawful, creative and humorous. I am fully supportive of the protests against the regime, all of which have been planned and executed with a great deal of panache. Together with the expertise of Airman and Matt Wright, that's one of the reasons they've attracted such a huge media profile.
I am, however, completely opposed to any attempt to get the game abandoned. It would, as others have said, surrender the higher moral ground, seriously dilute the goodwill that we currently enjoy in the world of football and feed Meire and Duchatelet's insidious propaganda. I also happen to believe that we should respect the integrity of the competition, as well as Burnley and their supporters. How would we feel if the boot was on the other foot ?
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It's not even about being fair to Burnley. This war has been fought largely through the media. If we get that game called off, then we are the villains. Poor little Burnley. Charlton have gone to far this time. Lack of respect blah blah blah. Katrien can wring her hands and apologise on behalf of the club.
Maybe you can explain the benefits of being the game abandoned and we'll see if they outweigh the costs.
Burnley themselves could storm the pitch and get it abandoned themselves.
Surely our aim is to remove our current owners, not to potentially ruin up to three other team's season?
Also, getting a match abandoned risks handing the moral high ground to Meire and the club in general. Initially they waved away the protests as just 2% of fans. Then in a statement with the Police they tried to compare the protests with some violent conduct at the Palace game. Imagine what they would say if fans managed to interfere with a game so much, the referee had to call it off. The press would be all over it, and we could expect to see negative reports from almost every major news outlet. I don't think it's a good idea at all.
I support protests, but I do not support any kind of movement to attempt to get the game abandoned.
All I am saying is that our fight and protests, whatever the effect it has during the 90 minutes of play, are worth more than the FL's desire to get things done on the day. I also agree that if the result is delayed either beyond 5pm or has to be replayed then there is a sizeable risk of losing goodwill from the fans of other clubs, but at the end of the day what is this goodwill worth? RD does not care what we think, I'm sure he does not care what other fans think.
I also doubt the match will be abandoned, there seems to be very little desire to take the direct action Blackpool's fans did. We're a different club with a different mentality.
I will just say that the goodwill is worthwhile to our campaign. It adds credibility to the protests and ensures that we are seen as the good guys in all this. Whilst RD himself may not care, it does help to pile the pressure on the club.
I ask a simple question - how does support the team and not the regime fit into everything we read on here. I suppose that doesn't come into it now we are relegated.
Then there is the question of legality. Throwing a flare on the pitch is illegal. WCA correctly makes the point about weight of public opinion and media backing.
Why jeopardise that? We hold the moral high ground. Don't throw it away.
By all means protest, that is the right established by hundreds of years of English Civil Laws.
Protest with an element of humour and creativity has and always will be more effective.
I have sympathy with the Burnley fans. Hell - there was collaboration with the Brighton fans. It wouldn't take much for CARD to make simple and effective contact with the Clarets fans groups (and don't forget the support they received as they were about to drop out of Div 4 or whatever it was then called). We would have their sympathy and that contact could alleviate their concern and possibly gain their backing.
Adult behaviour and utilising the business skillsets purportedly possessed by those who run CARD should make the last day of the season a memorable and effective day of protest.
We were all friendly with Brighton and I know there is history there but many seem to really dislike Burnley. Just curious to know.
Anything that happens here to disrupt the game is the yin to that yang.
Although I sympathise to an extent with those fans and don't wish them any harm I do want us to try and beat them and give the title to Brighton as they're bloody ace and deserve it more.
football-league.co.uk/global/section5.aspx
All the emphasis is on getting the game replayed. It is very much exceptional that the League even allow the result to stand let alone award a 3-0 win. Even the most recent Blackpool game that was abandoned was declared 0-0.
footballsite.co.uk/Statistics/Articles/DidYouKnow01.htm
Given what is at stake there is a less than zero chance the League would award Burnley a 3-0 win in the event of an abandonment.
I am, however, completely opposed to any attempt to get the game abandoned. It would, as others have said, surrender the higher moral ground, seriously dilute the goodwill that we currently enjoy in the world of football and feed Meire and Duchatelet's insidious propaganda. I also happen to believe that we should respect the integrity of the competition, as well as Burnley and their supporters. How would we feel if the boot was on the other foot ?
KM and RM should be asked by the police to stay away so as not to inflame the situation with stupid grins.
Burnley supporters need to grow up and stop crying like little twats. There are things a lot more important than what time the game ends.
I hope we beat them now. They can then have a little grizzle at how the nasty balloons put their players off.