I suspect that he didn't, especially, want to come to us but SL wanted rid of him and we were desperate. We gave Roger f**king Johnson an eighteen month deal because we were desperate and Teixeira's Agent obviously was as good as negotiating as Johnson's. How we were bullied into giving Teixeira a four and a half year deal at 29 is beyond me but I suspect that RD or KM believed that he'd keep us up and it was worth it.
As for the player he would have known that irrespective as to what he does from now on he is guaranteed the full value of his contract - unless he waives it, and why should he? So he is guaranteed to be earning very good (I assume) money until two months short of his 34th birthday. Why would he ever give that guarantee up? I, seriously, doubt that he will be offered more than we are obligated to pay him and as the months, and years go by, that becomes more and more true. If he goes out on loan we will probably have to pay some of his wages all the while the 'value' that he has that can earn him a permanent deal diminishes.
At the risk of making statements that are not popular and, possibly, untrue I suspect that he will not be willing to move if it involves a pay cut so we are probably going to have to release him on a free and give him a payoff to compensate him for the reduction in wages and/or contract term. Something tells me that KM is the only person on the planet that would sanction a deal that guarantees him the money he in on until he is 33 years and 10 months old.
The question is if we are stuck with him what do we do about it? Bauer is probably more saleable and could justify another contract like the one he has with us so they could sell him in January and keep Teixeira. Thankfully the club haven't sold 'better' players and kept the rubbish - they have, generally, moved on the crap that they have landed themselves with so maybe they will pay Teixeira off in January.
However, I thought he was a good player last season and he must be way too good for this division so if he's fit I'd play him. Just an issue as we now have, arguably, five of the best ten centre halves in the division.
Any normal club deep in trouble and signing a player would almost certainly ensure there was some kind of 'reduced salary upon relegation' clause. Not us though, we sign him up on a deal that'll take him almost up to his retirement. He could even be our Winston Bogarde!
Agree re the money and, as you say, why would he forfeit a salary he is unlikely to pick up elsewhere? However, it is also worth remembering that he is a professional sportsman and I struggle to think he would be content to slog out the rest of his career at a club he might have no real affinity with just for the incremental extra income it brings. He is easily good enough to land another contract (although not such a long one!) and I presume actually wants to play football to the highest standard he can.
I suspect common sense will prevail (but that does depend on Meire/Duchatalet) and he will at some point in the next few months, presuming he is not a sudden revelation on the field, come to some agreement where he is released "by mutual consent" with the standard press release thanking him for all he has done for the club.
KM won't pay his appearance money, Slade will have to do without until we get desperate........highest paid player still training at Sparrows Lane. KM tried but couldn't move him on during the summer for obvious reasons and for obvious reasons there were no takers.........hence this stalemate.
KM won't pay his appearance money, Slade will have to do without until we get desperate........highest paid player still training at Sparrows Lane. KM tried but couldn't move him on during the summer for obvious reasons and for obvious reasons there were no takers.........hence this stalemate.
Is that appearance money to him per game or a fee to his former club if he plays a certain number of games?
He won't play. Doubt we'll see him again in a Charlton shirt, presumably because his appearance fees in the contract that Dozy Daisy negotiated are too costly for League 1.
As for Bauer in central midfield, he might do okay there, but why on earth has a club whose stated aim for the season is to be challenging for promotion equipped itself so poorly in arguably the key area of the pitch?
If you're really serious about challenging for promotion, you need to sign be more, in terms of quality and quantity, than Andrew Crofts. That can't just be ineptitude from Slade, there must be budgetary contraints as well.
KM won't pay his appearance money, Slade will have to do without until we get desperate........highest paid player still training at Sparrows Lane. KM tried but couldn't move him on during the summer for obvious reasons and for obvious reasons there were no takers.........hence this stalemate.
Is that appearance money to him per game or a fee to his former club if he plays a certain number of games?
As I understand it, he is on appearance money per game in addition to a basic. The basic is enough to keep him here and the appearance has to come out of the "budget"........he won't/isn't being asked to travel and play in U-23 away games either, but will be kept fit in training and home U-23 matches.
Where has this information about Tex's contract been published? Or is this another unsubstantiated rumour that has gathered speed because somebody thinks it is written into his contract?
I guess he will - as will most of the others players - have a win bonus, but you only tend to enter appearance money when the player has a suspect injury record. Does Tex have a bad injury record?
It was only a month or so ago that the rumour was that he was refusing to play.
Where has this information about Tex's contract been published? Or is this another unsubstantiated rumour that has gathered speed because somebody thinks it is written into his contract?
I guess he will - as will most of the others players - have a win bonus, but you only tend to enter appearance money when the player has a suspect injury record. Does Tex have a bad injury record?
It was only a month or so ago that the rumour was that he was refusing to play.
Where has this unsubstantiated rumour gathered speed from? Do you think it is written in his contract?
Or are you doing what you're accusing others of.
No.1 has good sources and if that is what he's heard then I believe him.
KM won't pay his appearance money, Slade will have to do without until we get desperate........highest paid player still training at Sparrows Lane. KM tried but couldn't move him on during the summer for obvious reasons and for obvious reasons there were no takers.........hence this stalemate.
Is that appearance money to him per game or a fee to his former club if he plays a certain number of games?
As I understand it, he is on appearance money per game in addition to a basic. The basic is enough to keep him here and the appearance has to come out of the "budget"........he won't travel to U-23 away games either, but will be kept fit in training and home U-23 matches.
So, for every occasion he won't travel to U23 away games, fine him two weeks wages and that would pay for his appearance money for the first team games. Easy peasy.
Where has this information about Tex's contract been published? Or is this another unsubstantiated rumour that has gathered speed because somebody thinks it is written into his contract?
I guess he will - as will most of the others players - have a win bonus, but you only tend to enter appearance money when the player has a suspect injury record. Does Tex have a bad injury record?
It was only a month or so ago that the rumour was that he was refusing to play.
It’s probably unsubstantiated rumour, based on people trying to have an educated guess on the reasoning behind some of the stranger decisions made by the club. It’s like a kid having a laptop and doing all the clubs scouting, ridiculous I know, but then Mowgli crawls out of the skirting boards.
Why did they waste his time and make him travel to Port Vale then yesterday? By the way, I would consider him in midfield - would give us more threat at set pieces and he is comfortable on the ball.
HI, are you saying that players do not have win bonuses written into their contracts.
You will note that I prefaced that sentence with "I guess", which is what it is - a guess, not fact, not rumour - a guess.
Some have win bonuses, some appearance payments, some have pay increases when they make a certain amount of games, some get so many free flights home a season, some have goal payments, some may have league position or promotion payments.
There are no longer set contracts of £10 in the winter, £8 in the summer and £1 a point.
It depends on their agents and how good/desperate the negotiator is at Charlton.
Win bonuses tend to be relatively small compared to wages as they are hard for the club to predict and a win doesn't mean more income. Ditto for players who might be playing ever week but losing.
So appearance payments are more popular for players and clubs. If he's injured the club isn't paying out as much but if the player is doing well and getting picked then he maybe getting twice his basic.
What N0.1 is saying is that he's been told that this is the case with Tex but the club don't want to make the additional payments.
if only there was a way to put spreadsheets on here...
KM won't pay his appearance money, Slade will have to do without until we get desperate........highest paid player still training at Sparrows Lane. KM tried but couldn't move him on during the summer for obvious reasons and for obvious reasons there were no takers.........hence this stalemate.
Is that appearance money to him per game or a fee to his former club if he plays a certain number of games?
As I understand it, he is on appearance money per game in addition to a basic. The basic is enough to keep him here and the appearance has to come out of the "budget"........he won't/isn't being asked to travel and play in U-23 away games either, but will be kept fit in training and home U-23 matches.
Makes sense. Another total cock-up as we have the best defender in the division by a far way and we can't/won't/don't play him
Am sure he wouldn't have given away the pen the way Lennon did last night so that would have been two points that could go against the cost of his appearance fee
HI, are you saying that players do not have win bonuses written into their contracts.
You will note that I prefaced that sentence with "I guess", which is what it is - a guess, not fact, not rumour - a guess.
Some have win bonuses, some appearance payments, some have pay increases when they make a certain amount of games, some get so many free flights home a season, some have goal payments, some may have league position or promotion payments.
There are no longer set contracts of £10 in the winter, £8 in the summer and £1 a point.
It depends on their agents and how good/desperate the negotiator is at Charlton.
Win bonuses tend to be relatively small compared to wages as they are hard for the club to predict and a win doesn't mean more income. Ditto for players who might be playing ever week but losing.
So appearance payments are more popular for players and clubs. If he's injured the club isn't paying out as much but if the player is doing well and getting picked then he maybe getting twice his basic.
What N0.1 is saying is that he's been told that this is the case with Tex but the club don't want to make the additional payments.
if only there was a way to put spreadsheets on here...
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Any normal club deep in trouble and signing a player would almost certainly ensure there was some kind of 'reduced salary upon relegation' clause. Not us though, we sign him up on a deal that'll take him almost up to his retirement. He could even be our Winston Bogarde!
I suspect common sense will prevail (but that does depend on Meire/Duchatalet) and he will at some point in the next few months, presuming he is not a sudden revelation on the field, come to some agreement where he is released "by mutual consent" with the standard press release thanking him for all he has done for the club.
Could utilise Fox and Solly as wing backs with Crofts, Jackson and Holmes (free role) in midfield. Leaving Magennis and Ajose up front.
Seems a fairly flexible system to me, with plenty of options off the bench.
Get him in for god sake.
I think he's a bit slow for that, Who's faster Bauer, Konsa or Texeira?
BaseyKonsa I'd say but that said not really seen any of them done for pace. Touchwood!!As for Bauer in central midfield, he might do okay there, but why on earth has a club whose stated aim for the season is to be challenging for promotion equipped itself so poorly in arguably the key area of the pitch?
If you're really serious about challenging for promotion, you need to sign be more, in terms of quality and quantity, than Andrew Crofts. That can't just be ineptitude from Slade, there must be budgetary contraints as well.
I guess he will - as will most of the others players - have a win bonus, but you only tend to enter appearance money when the player has a suspect injury record. Does Tex have a bad injury record?
It was only a month or so ago that the rumour was that he was refusing to play.
Or are you doing what you're accusing others of.
No.1 has good sources and if that is what he's heard then I believe him.
You will note that I prefaced that sentence with "I guess", which is what it is - a guess, not fact, not rumour - a guess.
There are no longer set contracts of £10 in the winter, £8 in the summer and £1 a point.
It depends on their agents and how good/desperate the negotiator is at Charlton.
Win bonuses tend to be relatively small compared to wages as they are hard for the club to predict and a win doesn't mean more income. Ditto for players who might be playing ever week but losing.
So appearance payments are more popular for players and clubs. If he's injured the club isn't paying out as much but if the player is doing well and getting picked then he maybe getting twice his basic.
What N0.1 is saying is that he's been told that this is the case with Tex but the club don't want to make the additional payments.
if only there was a way to put spreadsheets on here...
Am sure he wouldn't have given away the pen the way Lennon did last night so that would have been two points that could go against the cost of his appearance fee