Agree with Covered End, Pope's distribution is so much better than I've seen from him. Well done the coaches and well done him, I've probably been too harsh there.
Missed the first 2 games through illness and don't do friendlies anymore, so first game of the season for me. My son had already given me the lowdown on the new players, but I have to say I was hugely impressed at the apparent quality on display and the style of football. The first half may have lacked excitement and goalmouth incident but I have to say we controlled the game, even if we lacked the final ball or cutting edge. Hull offered nothing. It would be easy to say they were poor, and that may well be so, but does a disservice to our boys with their resolute and solid defending from front to back; the harrying of their players on the ball; and some of the astonishing tackles to regain possession. Kashi, Bauer and Diarra in particular stood out for me and Ba played well. Second half Mak and JBG also really stepped up to the plate. Hull only really came into it when injuries and formation tinkering affected our momentum and it was asking a lot of so many youngsters,some thrown in a the deep end. When they equalised and 8 minutes extra was put up I must confess I feared the worst, which would have been totally underserved. But what this growing side also has is character, belief and no little quality. I thought Cousins slotted back into the right back position like a natural (I know he's played there before) Fox is steadily growing in stature and belief, he's come a long way in a short time. Popey looked solid and confident without a great deal to do, but the spill was disappointing and he'll need to work on that. KAG has got great touch and pace and will be interesting to see how he develops - lacking a bit of composure at times. RCC was on debut and thrown into a challenging period of the game. He gets a free pass. Calum gave them pause for thought with his pace and willingness to run with the ball - but dear Calum, I think he sometimes bamboozles himself with his catalogue of feints, shimmies and step-overs and forgets to look up/focus on good delivery/think what you're doing! Luzon - well, whatever you're doing I'm loving it - you mental genius.
Don't want to get carried away but hey, something's brewing in SE7
Now that is funny, because on p1 floydroadfaithful says, "Why can't rd look outside of his network? We need a proven championship manager now!"
Fair enough, that it wasn't virtually everyone willing to give Luzon a chance. However, looking at the first 2 pages, it was the vast majority. Ironically, floydroadfaithful, was one of the few unwilling to to give Luzon a chance.
It's a rare occasion that i can walk into the pub with arsenal and Chelsea mates and hold my head high as a Charlton fan. Today has been that day. We're playing good football, good support and getting results. What more can you want as a fan?! I thought Luzon was going to be another sheep but boy was I wrong. I love a maverick in fact I embrace originality and that's why I love our club. What we've been through as a club would break some but there's 15k or so that turn in week in week out that say otherwise. I've had a few as its my birthday tomorrow and I've got the day off but thank you for making my weekend Charlton. We are one. We are Charlton! COYR
I've been in Spain for the whole of the season so far and have kept up with every game via player, this was the first game I have actually watched as it was on the tele in a bar.
I get back for the Rotherham game and I can't bloody wait to watch this team play live.
"From minute one Charlton looked they wanted it more, put more effort in and we just looked lethargic, let's be fair, Charlton are pretty crap, certainly not a patch on Wolves or Fulham."
Opposition fans continue to underestimate our capabilities. Not just pre-game but after we've beaten them as well.
Good point Calydon road. I'm sure if you seen my Posts over the last 13 Months that;s what i do 99% of the time but every now and then a little nibble is necessary to get a point across. Soapbox Sam is a 24/7 CAFC till i die consortium, i will have a word with my other selves.
Xactly. You're bigger than that. You're all bigger than that
It's amazing what watching this sort of moment from your football team brings. I'm having a shit time at work at the moment and really struggling, but this means I go in with a spring in my step today. Not to overplay it, but it's such a big thing for me to see us win like this. I like covered end could happily watch this over and over
"From minute one Charlton looked they wanted it more, put more effort in and we just looked lethargic, let's be fair, Charlton are pretty crap, certainly not a patch on Wolves or Fulham."
Opposition fans continue to underestimate our capabilities. Not just pre-game but after we've beaten them as well.
I wonder where the "certainly not a patch on Wolves or Fulham" comes from. We'll see about Wolves on Saturday.
great result was nearly chucked away though as a draw from that game would of been wasteful, imo the game should of been won in normal time, we cant rely on 8 minutes stoppage time, not taking anything away from the team it was a great performance but we need to take our chances when presented to us as we might not be as fortunate next time, never the less though it is 3 points to guy luzons red and white army, and were proving the critics wrong. so happy days.
Still shocked the people on the fan sofa didn't join the bundle. Sure, you'd probably be banned from The Valley but how can you not take that opportunity??
Taken a couple of days to catch my breath. But it hasn't helped, what a day what a performance, what a team.
It does make me laugh that all the alleged fancied teams managers have said (about their own teams) is 'we didn't play well', 'we weren't at the races', 'we were awful' well guess what the common denominator is? its that lot from SE7. I was talking to a couple of 'Ull fans at the WO, that reckon that they would cane us 3-0, I said I think we will surprise you, then the team came out, no Watt and Solly....Bollox said I. The 2 fans said the only way that we will do well is if we got on their toes and shut them down, 'cos they still want premier league time on the ball, so guess what Guy Luzon did, we harried, we stifled them, didn't give them a minute and remember in 30 degree heat. No wonder they were shattered.
Pope, Commanded his area well, played out of defence and held it up when the players were tired, no blame for their goal, the defence stood back, not many keepers would have held that shot. Just wish the football genius's that are caning him would just do one. Idiots. Cousins, Not his greatest game but, put a shift, was a make do full back, much better when moved into midfield. Fox, Again an average game, would like to see him push forward a little more, but still head and shoulders better than last year. First choice leftie. Bauer, What can you say, a Trojan, brilliant performance and working well with Diarra. What a signing Diarra, What can you say, a Trojan, brilliant performance and working well with Bauer. What a signing, fans talk about strike partners, but these two are a great defensive duo. the real deal. Gudmundsson, Missed a sitter second half, created Big Maks goal, and I loved him drifting in for the winner. Ba, Another excellent singing, some great touches, we looked average when he came off leaving Kashi to do more work. Kashi, What a player, yet another superb signing. Here there and everywhere. Bergdich, Showed some quality touches and pace and a nice run in the first finishing with a shot that Dawson blocked for a corner. Makienok, MOM - Steller perfromance, a box to box forward, defended well all game, was a bloody handful against an England international, brave, some good touches, a well taken goal, and an assist......yes this is a Charlton striker we are talking about. Ahearne-Grant, I like this lad, great potential, didn't melt at all facing a very good back four. Some intelligent runs, just needs a bit of composure when pulling the trigger. Charles-Cook, Checked in at the deep end, then moved to full back, had a shot, again needs to stop his head going Wibble before he shoots.
** Guy Luzon - 9.5 - What can you say, Tactically exceptional, especially when he realised that we were losing the midfield and he swapped Charles-Cook for Cousins. Has injected so much spirit and passion into this team. The mans a winner and thats what we have been crying out for, for years.
So Ba wasn't taken off injured, just to allow Cousins into the centre ?
No Ba had cramp, I believe. Charles - Cook was put into midfield leaving coassignees full back, GL swapped both Cook and Cousins shortly afterwards because after Ba left the field we lost the midfield, as soon as Cousins went into midfield we got our balance back.
One quick note, well done the crowd, second half the The Cupboard end were excellent, well done every man Jack of you.....a solid 6-7 minutes of singing after the winner went in......
'Everywhere we, go......Charlton boys.....making all the noise'
So Ba wasn't taken off injured, just to allow Cousins into the centre ?
No Ba had cramp, I believe. Charles - Cook was put into midfield leaving coassignees full back, GL swapped both Cook and Cousins shortly afterwards because after Ba left the field we lost the midfield, as soon as Cousins went into midfield we got our balance back.
One quick note, well done the crowd, second half the The Cupboard end were excellent, well done every man Jack of you.....a solid 6-7 minutes of singing after the winner went in......
'Everywhere we, go......Charlton boys.....making all the noise'
First game of the season for me, not a bad one start kick off with.
Felt sorry for Pope when the goal went in, he had a pretty solid game up until then. He had claimed a few crosses well and his distribution was better. It wasn't a howler by any means, there were a lot of bodies in front of him and (from memory) it bounced just in front of him, but you want your keeper to smother them.
Thought Diarra and Bauer looked really solid in the middle, Sarr might be waiting a while for a game if they carry on like that.
The pair who impressed me the most were Kashi and Ba. They did everything you want from your midfield pair in this league, they were winning tackles, passing the ball well, covering other players when out of position and Ba got forward well (that ball for KAG was class). For them to boss an experienced pair like Meyler (who I thought was pants) and Huddlestone says it all.
Bergdich was a disappointment for me but willing to see how he gets on next time I see him, might have been an off day. KAG grew into the game the longer he was on.
Despite a goal and an assist I wasn't blown away by Big Mak, particularly first half. A lot of his flicks ons went to nobody and his touch was a bit heavy. When he's played 6-8 games with Igor/Watt next to him I think we'll see a better player. Whoever he's partnered with, I don't think many centre back pairings will be looking forward to playing us this season!
Shame that No.1 is because that Hull are still struggling from Relegation... Is a poor excuse
It's true though. When you go down, lose a few players, with several others linked to moves away this window, it's bound to have an effect on team spirit and togetherness. We were clearly hungrier than them.
"From minute one Charlton looked they wanted it more, put more effort in and we just looked lethargic, let's be fair, Charlton are pretty crap, certainly not a patch on Wolves or Fulham."
Opposition fans continue to underestimate our capabilities. Not just pre-game but after we've beaten them as well.
And over estimate Fulham, who were much nearer relegation than promotion last season!
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Good shout Golfie.
Missed the first 2 games through illness and don't do friendlies anymore, so first game of the season for me.
My son had already given me the lowdown on the new players, but I have to say I was hugely impressed at the apparent quality on display and the style of football.
The first half may have lacked excitement and goalmouth incident but I have to say we controlled the game, even if we lacked the final ball or cutting edge.
Hull offered nothing.
It would be easy to say they were poor, and that may well be so, but does a disservice to our boys with their resolute and solid defending from front to back; the harrying of their players on the ball; and some of the astonishing tackles to regain possession.
Kashi, Bauer and Diarra in particular stood out for me and Ba played well.
Second half Mak and JBG also really stepped up to the plate.
Hull only really came into it when injuries and formation tinkering affected our momentum and it was asking a lot of so many youngsters,some thrown in a the deep end.
When they equalised and 8 minutes extra was put up I must confess I feared the worst, which would have been totally underserved.
But what this growing side also has is character, belief and no little quality.
I thought Cousins slotted back into the right back position like a natural (I know he's played there before)
Fox is steadily growing in stature and belief, he's come a long way in a short time.
Popey looked solid and confident without a great deal to do, but the spill was disappointing and he'll need to work on that.
KAG has got great touch and pace and will be interesting to see how he develops - lacking a bit of composure at times.
RCC was on debut and thrown into a challenging period of the game. He gets a free pass.
Calum gave them pause for thought with his pace and willingness to run with the ball - but dear Calum, I think he sometimes bamboozles himself with his catalogue of feints, shimmies and step-overs and forgets to look up/focus on good delivery/think what you're doing!
Luzon - well, whatever you're doing I'm loving it - you mental genius.
Don't want to get carried away but hey, something's brewing in SE7
We need a proven championship manager now!"
Fair enough, that it wasn't virtually everyone willing to give Luzon a chance. However, looking at the first 2 pages, it was the vast majority. Ironically, floydroadfaithful, was one of the few unwilling to to give Luzon a chance.
GL was filmed for all of the second half. The guy filming him said to me after the match "he's a bit mental isn't he?" I couldn't disagree
I thought Luzon was going to be another sheep but boy was I wrong. I love a maverick in fact I embrace originality and that's why I love our club. What we've been through as a club would break some but there's 15k or so that turn in week in week out that say otherwise. I've had a few as its my birthday tomorrow and I've got the day off but thank you for making my weekend Charlton. We are one. We are Charlton! COYR
This is what is making the difference.
I have no doubt QPR, Derby and Hull have better squads than us & possibly/probably Forest as well.
But we have bigger balls, which is down to RD, the recruiters, coach & players.
If you have the biggest balls, anything is possible.
I get back for the Rotherham game and I can't bloody wait to watch this team play live.
Get in.
Opposition fans continue to underestimate our capabilities. Not just pre-game but after we've beaten them as well.
But it hasn't helped, what a day what a performance, what a team.
It does make me laugh that all the alleged fancied teams managers have said (about their own teams) is 'we didn't play well', 'we weren't at the races', 'we were awful' well guess what the common denominator is? its that lot from SE7.
I was talking to a couple of 'Ull fans at the WO, that reckon that they would cane us 3-0, I said I think we will surprise you, then the team came out, no Watt and Solly....Bollox said I.
The 2 fans said the only way that we will do well is if we got on their toes and shut them down, 'cos they still want premier league time on the ball, so guess what Guy Luzon did, we harried, we stifled them, didn't give them a minute and remember in 30 degree heat.
No wonder they were shattered.
Pope, Commanded his area well, played out of defence and held it up when the players were tired, no blame for their goal, the defence stood back, not many keepers would have held that shot. Just wish the football genius's that are caning him would just do one. Idiots.
Cousins, Not his greatest game but, put a shift, was a make do full back, much better when moved into midfield.
Fox, Again an average game, would like to see him push forward a little more, but still head and shoulders better than last year. First choice leftie.
Bauer, What can you say, a Trojan, brilliant performance and working well with Diarra. What a signing
Diarra, What can you say, a Trojan, brilliant performance and working well with Bauer. What a signing, fans talk about strike partners, but these two are a great defensive duo. the real deal.
Gudmundsson, Missed a sitter second half, created Big Maks goal, and I loved him drifting in for the winner.
Ba, Another excellent singing, some great touches, we looked average when he came off leaving Kashi to do more work.
Kashi, What a player, yet another superb signing. Here there and everywhere.
Bergdich, Showed some quality touches and pace and a nice run in the first finishing with a shot that Dawson blocked for a corner.
Makienok, MOM - Steller perfromance, a box to box forward, defended well all game, was a bloody handful against an England international, brave, some good touches, a well taken goal, and an assist......yes this is a Charlton striker we are talking about.
Ahearne-Grant, I like this lad, great potential, didn't melt at all facing a very good back four. Some intelligent runs, just needs a bit of composure when pulling the trigger.
Charles-Cook, Checked in at the deep end, then moved to full back, had a shot, again needs to stop his head going Wibble before he shoots.
** Guy Luzon - 9.5 - What can you say, Tactically exceptional, especially when he realised that we were losing the midfield and he swapped Charles-Cook for Cousins. Has injected so much spirit and passion into this team. The mans a winner and thats what we have been crying out for, for years.
Sweet Dreams Are Made Of This.
It was a great day to be a CAFC fan.
When players show such heart, the crowd will respond. (always a few exceptions)
Even better my mate fitted this one in as his Charlton match on his visit from New Zealand so I'm pleased for him!
One quick note, well done the crowd, second half the The Cupboard end were excellent, well done every man Jack of you.....a solid 6-7 minutes of singing after the winner went in......
'Everywhere we, go......Charlton boys.....making all the noise'
Felt sorry for Pope when the goal went in, he had a pretty solid game up until then. He had claimed a few crosses well and his distribution was better. It wasn't a howler by any means, there were a lot of bodies in front of him and (from memory) it bounced just in front of him, but you want your keeper to smother them.
Thought Diarra and Bauer looked really solid in the middle, Sarr might be waiting a while for a game if they carry on like that.
The pair who impressed me the most were Kashi and Ba. They did everything you want from your midfield pair in this league, they were winning tackles, passing the ball well, covering other players when out of position and Ba got forward well (that ball for KAG was class). For them to boss an experienced pair like Meyler (who I thought was pants) and Huddlestone says it all.
Bergdich was a disappointment for me but willing to see how he gets on next time I see him, might have been an off day. KAG grew into the game the longer he was on.
Despite a goal and an assist I wasn't blown away by Big Mak, particularly first half. A lot of his flicks ons went to nobody and his touch was a bit heavy. When he's played 6-8 games with Igor/Watt next to him I think we'll see a better player. Whoever he's partnered with, I don't think many centre back pairings will be looking forward to playing us this season!
Role model for our lovely lads !
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