Good insight into views of fans of different level clubs. Just looked at a Liverpool forum, the comments are
"I love seeing us buying young talent, I love seeing them develop into first team regulars"
"I'm with you there, it's the perfect model - hover up all the best English talent, suplement it with choice imports"
Everyone likes seeing good youngsters break through and flourish I their first team. I think we have to accept now that anyone with real quality / potential will never feature in our first team for more than half a season, if they even make it to the first team at all before being snapped up.
Sadly I think you are right AFKA. That being the case, is there any point in supporting the club at all? After all whilst just being entertained is a part of what you pay your entry fee for, if all we can aspire to on top of that is cheering when our best players walk out the door, we might as well give up.
It's exactly the case and will get worse due to the home grown rule, arsenal, Chelsea, citeh, utd, Liverpool will all just snap up and take anyone with a real chance, before they can prove it at their original club,
Good insight into views of fans of different level clubs. Just looked at a Liverpool forum, the comments are
"I love seeing us buying young talent, I love seeing them develop into first team regulars"
"I'm with you there, it's the perfect model - hover up all the best English talent, suplement it with choice imports"
Everyone likes seeing good youngsters break through and flourish I their first team. I think we have to accept now that anyone with real quality / potential will never feature in our first team for more than half a season, if they even make it to the first team at all before being snapped up.
Hover up! Don't they have any grammar police up in Scouseland?
Sadly I think you are right AFKA. That being the case, is there any point in supporting the club at all? After all whilst just being entertained is a part of what you pay your entry fee for, if all we can aspire to on top of that is cheering when our best players walk out the door, we might as well give up.
Algarve, every single club in the land is a selling club. Look at Man Utd when they sold Ronaldo to Madrid. This has gone on for years and will never stop.
When the big clubs come calling it is hard for a player to turn them down (Especially when their agent is chirping in their ear)
We all know that, like other teams at second tier level, we have always only been able to hold onto class players for so long, but that period seems to have now moved from two seasons to half a season / 20 odd games or so. I find that very sad indeed.
Thirty or forty years ago, the top sides used to raid other First Division clubs to accumulate quality players (from Ipswich and others) to ensure that their rivals couldn't get them. Given the grotesque disparity in TV money between the Premiership and everyone else, we all know that the process of player accumulation now has been taken to a whole new distasteful (but commercially logical) level.
The Joe Gomez position may well have been a fait accompli for Charlton - indeed, we may achieve a very respectable outcome given his almost unprecedented youth profile. However, one of the joys of supporting a club is to see your best youngsters establish themselves, and then excel, in the first team. Alas, for clubs like us, those days appear to be a thing of the past.
CAFC Academy which is run by youth players just wished Gomez good luck at Liverpool. Jimmy Stone highlighting the problem of having youth official site run by youth players.
As AFKA says, this is the way of things now. We would probably lose Richard Rufus at 18 if he was coming through the academy today. And imagine what we would have lost if RR had been sold to Arsenal/Liverpool etc after only a handful of games for us. Maybe Joe would have scored a dramatic headed goal from a corner in a play off final next season.....
I won't be as harsh as greenie Jr but what jimmy stone thinks or says doesn't matter no more than if any one else says it ,
Why would you not have the kids having a bit of freedom on running their own social media site , I am sure that there are security measures in place before things get posted and I haven't heard anyone criticising it before now,
Joe gomez is going , it looks to be Liverpool the youth players know him look up to him and aspire to be like him,
Of course the owner can do as he please, and so can fans. Driving fans away has never been good business IMO. I'm not saying things will go one way or the other - just commenting on how I think things can be done better. If you cant do that on here without getting lectured, we might as well all pack up!
Of course the owner can do as he please, and so can fans. Driving fans away has never been good business IMO. I'm not saying things will go one way or the other - just commenting on how I think things can be done better. If you cant do that on here without getting lectured, we might as well all pack up!
Absolutely right, Muttley. Some may call me gullible, but I believe that without RD's stupid revolving door policy on players and managers we could have kept him another year.
so what is the point of our academy becoming Cat 1 as we then play matches against the "big teams" and they'll see our talent sooner - ah yes just answered my own question
Of course the owner can do as he please, and so can fans. Driving fans away has never been good business IMO. I'm not saying things will go one way or the other - just commenting on how I think things can be done better. If you cant do that on here without getting lectured, we might as well all pack up!
Absolutely right, Muttley. Some may call me gullible, but I believe that without RD's stupid revolving door policy on players and managers we could have kept him another year.
Hmmm, let me think. I'm at a lower half championship club with no revolving door policy on decent but unspectacular money and likely to be first choice. I'm not unhappy with that. Wait a minute, my agent tells me Liverpool and a host of other "big" PL clubs are willing to pay me enough to set my family up for life. Might get to play with some world class players too. No, I'll stay put because I really like the lack of a revolving door policy and the fact I'll be the biggest fish in the non revolving pond before you can say"who needs mega bucks". Thanks all the same.
Of course the owner can do as he please, and so can fans. Drivigenuinely the real thingns away has never been good business IMO. I'm not saying things will go one way or the other - just commenting on how I think things can be done better. If you cant do that on here without getting lectured, we might as well all pack up!
Absolutely right, Muttley. Some may call me gullible, but I believe that without RD's stupid revolving door policy on players and managers we could have kept him another year.
I'm not so sure, i think that whilst some players might get fed up with the revolving door and want out if someone comes in for them, i think JG has simply had his head turned by the call of the top end of the premier league.
If he is off, i think he could do better than liverpool but good luck to him all the same.
so what is the point of our academy becoming Cat 1 as we then play matches against the "big teams" and they'll see our talent sooner - ah yes just answered my own question
If we stay as a Cat 2 club then if we get another Kasey Palmer incident he can go for peanuts, if we got up to being a Cat 1 then we'll get more money for him.
This was how the Premier League held the Football League to ransom when the new deals were released so far as am aware
for fuck sake we are going to get minimum £3.5 million, he could have left a few years ago for zilch, he's done good by us, we've done good by him, he goes with my best wishes, what it does do is makes us more attractive to youngsters knowing a) they will get a chance to shine b) get a big move if they perform, there isn't any club in the championship who could hold on to a player when a big club comes calling, especially when you are getting them to sign a professional contract at such a young age.Good luck Joe go smash it son.
I personally don't have a problem with Gomez. But it isn't always the best move for a player to follow the money in the early years of a professional career. Not that I blame them for doing so, although a little loyalty is a good way to start your career. That was a dig at Diego, not Joe btw.
Of course the owner can do as he please, and so can fans. Driving fans away has never been good business IMO. I'm not saying things will go one way or the other - just commenting on how I think things can be done better. If you cant do that on here without getting lectured, we might as well all pack up!
Absolutely right, Muttley. Some may call me gullible, but I believe that without RD's stupid revolving door policy on players and managers we could have kept him another year.
Hmmm, let me think. I'm at a lower half championship club with no revolving door policy on decent but unspectacular money and likely to be first choice. I'm not unhappy with that. Wait a minute, my agent tells me Liverpool and a host of other "big" PL clubs are willing to pay me enough to set my family up for life. Might get to play with some world class players too. No, I'll stay put because I really like the lack of a revolving door policy and the fact I'll be the biggest fish in the non revolving pond before you can say"who needs mega bucks". Thanks all the same.
Comments
"I love seeing us buying young talent, I love seeing them develop into first team regulars"
"I'm with you there, it's the perfect model - hover up all the best English talent, suplement it with choice imports"
Everyone likes seeing good youngsters break through and flourish I their first team. I think we have to accept now that anyone with real quality / potential will never feature in our first team for more than half a season, if they even make it to the first team at all before being snapped up.
When the big clubs come calling it is hard for a player to turn them down (Especially when their agent is chirping in their ear)
Thirty or forty years ago, the top sides used to raid other First Division clubs to accumulate quality players (from Ipswich and others) to ensure that their rivals couldn't get them. Given the grotesque disparity in TV money between the Premiership and everyone else, we all know that the process of player accumulation now has been taken to a whole new distasteful (but commercially logical) level.
The Joe Gomez position may well have been a fait accompli for Charlton - indeed, we may achieve a very respectable outcome given his almost unprecedented youth profile. However, one of the joys of supporting a club is to see your best youngsters establish themselves, and then excel, in the first team. Alas, for clubs like us, those days appear to be a thing of the past.
Jimmy Stone highlighting the problem of having youth official site run by youth players.
@CAFC_TheAcademy: Wishing JG all the best at Lpool. Role model for the CAFC ACADEMY.
Maybe Joe would have scored a dramatic headed goal from a corner in a play off final next season.....
Why would you not have the kids having a bit of freedom on running their own social media site , I am sure that there are security measures in place before things get posted and I haven't heard anyone criticising it before now,
Joe gomez is going , it looks to be Liverpool the youth players know him look up to him and aspire to be like him,
If he is off, i think he could do better than liverpool but good luck to him all the same.
This was how the Premier League held the Football League to ransom when the new deals were released so far as am aware
BUT, will we get an adequate replacement?