Actually I have heard from a reasonably interesting source that we are seriously looking outside the network and in the UK. It will be interesting to see if this is the case here, or not. Based on the tweets it seems most likely to be Vejlkovic, though, who sounds like a decent young player.
Around this time last year (or perhaps early February) a very well placed source said we would get two or three loans from the FAPL to see us through the season...and the rest is history as they say. Luzon would be nuts to take us on without a guarantee of more quality in midfield and upfront! And after last week, I think it's asking way too much of the fan base to be drip fed rumours of signings. We need a win and a decent signing asap. The simple fact is the club should have been looking in December so as to line up a deal by now. The way we're going it's going to be a lot harder to get a deal across the line simply because we are no longer in touching distance of the top eight. That moment has gone. "Seriously looking outside the network and in the UK" doesn't mean anything to me until names, rumours and signings show up.
Ahem
Signing : Vejlkovic Rumour: Fortune
I'm so fed up with these glass half empty people constantly slagging the club off and not seeing the bigger picture
Actually I have heard from a reasonably interesting source that we are seriously looking outside the network and in the UK. It will be interesting to see if this is the case here, or not. Based on the tweets it seems most likely to be Vejlkovic, though, who sounds like a decent young player.
Around this time last year (or perhaps early February) a very well placed source said we would get two or three loans from the FAPL to see us through the season...and the rest is history as they say. Luzon would be nuts to take us on without a guarantee of more quality in midfield and upfront! And after last week, I think it's asking way too much of the fan base to be drip fed rumours of signings. We need a win and a decent signing asap. The simple fact is the club should have been looking in December so as to line up a deal by now. The way we're going it's going to be a lot harder to get a deal across the line simply because we are no longer in touching distance of the top eight. That moment has gone. "Seriously looking outside the network and in the UK" doesn't mean anything to me until names, rumours and signings show up.
Ahem
Signing : Vejlkovic Rumour: Fortune
I'm so fed up with these glass half empty people constantly slagging the club off and not seeing the bigger picture
:-)
how can you judge glass half empty when you have never seen him play?
Velj holding, cousins going box to box but dropping in front of defense when it's needed. igor has the pace to come from deeper and I believe he spent some time on the wing a couple years back so should be able to adapt to that role.. We may just find he is more effective there!
This would give us a strong defensive base with plenty of pace to hit on the break!
Can I please have some of whatever you're on? Such optimism would be a great relief.
Didn't think I was being that optimistic... just what I would do if I was picking the team...
Were you interviewed? I think you should have been! I'm not knocking optimism just rueing that I don't have any myself right now.
Velj holding, cousins going box to box but dropping in front of defense when it's needed. igor has the pace to come from deeper and I believe he spent some time on the wing a couple years back so should be able to adapt to that role.. We may just find he is more effective there!
This would give us a strong defensive base with plenty of pace to hit on the break!
Can I please have some of whatever you're on? Such optimism would be a great relief.
Didn't think I was being that optimistic... just what I would do if I was picking the team...
Were you interviewed? I think you should have been! I'm not knocking optimism just rueing that I don't have any myself right now.
for anyone who's interested, i actually have Katrien's email address should you like to send her a letter to explain how we all feel. might want to send her a list's of Do and Don't when signing players as well as its quite clear they have no bloody idea in how to add strength in depth!
wait is it katrien.meire@cafc.com(or .co.uk) damn you're so lucky to privy to that sort of info!
Actually no it wasn't Dazzler21, although being quite a generic email address that is monitored by IT at the club, chances are your email wouldn't reach her inbox, no i actually have her personal hotmail account email.
@CAFCDAZ no posting of personal emails please, ta
Well, this time last year we welcomed a certain 19 year old into the team who went on to become our player of the year. Let's hope, no pray, that young Milos can have the same impact.
The way Coquelin was playing, if he had continued at that level for the season and stayed at Charlton, he was shaping up for candidate for player of the season.
Milos looks like a promising player but Charlton still need at least 2 quality players added to the team to secure a Championship place. One of those should be a creative attacking midfielder. Milos is not that. Good luck to him and all that.
It's the midfield INFRONT of CDM we are missing, essentially with JJ JC & YB they were all playing a somewhat defensive roll, a lot of Championship teams load up midfield with box to box midfielders and in that they can control the game. Because they don't lack numbers going forward, or back to retrieve it
It's the midfield INFRONT of CDM we are missing, essentially with JJ JC & YB they were all playing a somewhat defensive roll, a lot of Championship teams load up midfield with box to box midfielders and in that they can control the game. Because they don't lack numbers going forward, or back to retrieve it
Could one of Jackson or Cousins become one of those forward thinking players though with a competent holding player behind them? I suppose there's Moussa too if he ever gets himself fit.
So he's either a complete waste of time and amother example of RD's euroconspiracy to bring English football to it's knees, starting with Charlton, like you do, OR he is going to turn around a team of older more experienced demoralised players with his Premier league magic balls. Sorry. Boots.
It's the midfield INFRONT of CDM we are missing, essentially with JJ JC & YB they were all playing a somewhat defensive roll, a lot of Championship teams load up midfield with box to box midfielders and in that they can control the game. Because they don't lack numbers going forward, or back to retrieve it
Could one of Jackson or Cousins become one of those forward thinking players though with a competent holding player behind them? I suppose there's Moussa too if he ever gets himself fit.
Cousins could but it'd take a fair a lot of adapting, considering he's been playing on the left in the middle and all over the place, he'd be marked in a completely different way pushing up in their half centrally. JJ I'm not too sure, as Gerrard has done seemingly the older he's got the further he's dropped understandably. We need some fresh faces in CM or this struggle won't end IMO. Gudmundsson is the ideal sort of player IF you have a strong midfield to support him, what usually happens is when he collects the ball he's low on options, low on overlapping runs and similar.
As Coquelin showed (who's a CDM mould), he's a Premier League asset (and we were bloody luck to get him) but did our results improve? No. Not at all. So I'm not too sure why we're doing the same here. I think the managing/coaching/scouting staff are thinking if we improve defensively our results will improve but I don't think that's the case, I think we need to strengthen our core and in that it'll give Bikey & TBH a bit more confidence and the strikers also, because they'll essentially get more space/chances. Centre park is crucial and ours is terrible at this level no offence to JC, JJ and co.
Franck Moussa what a steaming pile of dogshite of a purchase he has been...
Eh? Free transfer mate and he's been injured for ages with not that many full 90 mins under his belt to judge him on but let's not let the facts get in the way of another character assassination.
Would have been interesting to see how things had turned out if Moussa had been fit and had been playing upfront with Igor all season.
I think his style of play suited our early season passing game better than George.
But it wasn't to be. Maybe it was the injury but he didn't impress that much when he did play.
Injuries and suspensions. Who'd have thought that might happen? : - )
Agreed he never set the world alight but he wasn't afraid to get on the ball and run at defenders. Where he was lacking was his decision making and when to release it. A big pile of a Dog Poo is a bit OTT though.
Would have been interesting to see how things had turned out if Moussa had been fit and had been playing upfront with Igor all season.
I think his style of play suited our early season passing game better than George.
But it wasn't to be. Maybe it was the injury but he didn't impress that much when he did play.
Injuries and suspensions. Who'd have thought that might happen? : - )
Agreed he never set the world alight but he wasn't afraid to get on the ball and run at defenders. Where he was lacking was his decision making and when to release it. A big pile of a Dog Poo is a bit OTT though.
Yep correct Red Always tried to be positive on the ball, did not always come off but deserves a run when fit.
Franck Moussa what a steaming pile of dogshite of a purchase he has been...
Eh? Free transfer mate and he's been injured for ages with not that many full 90 mins under his belt to judge him on but let's not let the facts get in the way of another character assassination.
Have I slated the man in anyway? No but his injuries have rendered him a total waste of money.
This to me makes him a steaming pile of dog shite of an acquisition. If I had said he was a steaming pile of dog shite of a player, then fair enough!
Also Free Transfers often get heavy loaded sign on fees, so don't kid yourself that he was free!
Hey, I really appreciated the rating you lads gave Milos for the Wolves game. I've had a read through this thread and the best I saw was "I asked a couple of Spurs fans and they said eeeeh" heh, they are indeed armchair supporters if they know nothing about our youth players. This lad is thought of very highly at the club, not many are above him in our prospects ladder. He is excellent on the ball, far above his station age wise and is expected to make an impact on the first team soon. Many compare him to Jan Vertonghen (when Jan isn't being a mardy muppet lol). Anyway, have a read of this review...
A classy, savvy centre back whose skills on the ball are advanced enough that his coaches sometimes use him as a midfield lynchpin. Sound familiar? A possible future heir to Super Jan Vertonghen and the Cartilage Free Captain himself before him, Milos Veljkovic slots into the prospect hype list all the way up at No.4.
Who is he?
Milos Veljkovic is a 19 year-old central defender (for now, at least) who joined Tottenham from his home club FC Basel in 2011, having impressed Tim Sherwood and his youth coaching staff on trial. Serbian by descent, he has represented his nation team at U17, U18 and U19 levels. After joining Spurs, Veljkovic played only a season of U18 games before being bumped up to compete in the NextGen League and last year's inaugural U21 competition.
What can he do?
Veljkovic was originally brought to the club off the back of two key attributes: his strength, and his ball-playing abilities. The mentality he displays when applying these traits is one of supreme composure- firmly but cleanly winning the ball off strikers who are often far more physical than him and occasionally 2 or 3 years older, and distributing it forwards to the waiting midfield outlets or carrying it forward to help to build positive compression play. This level-headed, elegant style of play has really made him stand out this year amongst his peers in the Spurs youth setup- traditional stoppers like Grant Hall, for example.
So refined and unerring are Veljkovic's passing abilities that towards the end of last season, John McDermott saw fit to utilise him further forward in the deepest midfield role, shielding the back four and controlling the flow of the team's play. That Milos has managed to gradually make this role his own should really tell you something about his talent considering that he was competing for a spot in a three-man midfield with passers like Thomas Carroll and Nabil Bentaleb, two of the youth players at he top of the prospective ladder, as well as more natural defensive midfielders like Giancarlo Gallifuoco.
Where can he go?
Usual caveats apply: from a youth team which steamrollered all comers last season, it's tough to pick out the players who are genuinely set to make it in a future first XI, and those who rode a wave of collectiove good form.
That said, it is believed that Veljkovic stood out almost unquestionably as having been in the former camp last year. Some have gone as far as to say that he's is a unique enough prospect to stand enough of a chance to battle his way all the way towards the Spurs first team within the next two years, even if he doesn't manage to crack into a side which is packed with defensive quality and will surely feature an upgraded midfield by the time he comes of age. His raw talent is unquestionable, but to perhaps an even greater extent is his highly impressive maturely, quietly imperious on-pitch persona, which at times leads to forgetting just how young he still is.
He looked very composed on the ball. Looked like he has been playing professionally for a long time. I think his going to be the calm head like Diego Poyet was last year.
Massive blow...only real CDM we have... need to get a replacement on loan.. He was effective in screening the back four and dropping in to allow the full backs forward.. or play cousins on that role...
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Signing : Vejlkovic
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I'm so fed up with these glass half empty people constantly slagging the club off and not seeing the bigger picture
:-)
give GHE a chance, he will come good.
Milos looks like a promising player but Charlton still need at least 2 quality players added to the team to secure a Championship place. One of those should be a creative attacking midfielder. Milos is not that. Good luck to him and all that.
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2015/01/21/why-loaning-out-a-milos-veljkovic-is-the-best-deal-spurs-will-do/
Seriously, good luck to him. Hopefully he'll do a job and lift a bit of doom and gloom.
As Coquelin showed (who's a CDM mould), he's a Premier League asset (and we were bloody luck to get him) but did our results improve? No. Not at all. So I'm not too sure why we're doing the same here. I think the managing/coaching/scouting staff are thinking if we improve defensively our results will improve but I don't think that's the case, I think we need to strengthen our core and in that it'll give Bikey & TBH a bit more confidence and the strikers also, because they'll essentially get more space/chances. Centre park is crucial and ours is terrible at this level no offence to JC, JJ and co.
I think his style of play suited our early season passing game better than George.
But it wasn't to be. Maybe it was the injury but he didn't impress that much when he did play.
Injuries and suspensions. Who'd have thought that might happen? : - )
Always tried to be positive on the ball, did not always come off but deserves a run when fit.
This to me makes him a steaming pile of dog shite of an acquisition. If I had said he was a steaming pile of dog shite of a player, then fair enough!
Also Free Transfers often get heavy loaded sign on fees, so don't kid yourself that he was free!
A classy, savvy centre back whose skills on the ball are advanced enough that his coaches sometimes use him as a midfield lynchpin. Sound familiar? A possible future heir to Super Jan Vertonghen and the Cartilage Free Captain himself before him, Milos Veljkovic slots into the prospect hype list all the way up at No.4.
Who is he?
Milos Veljkovic is a 19 year-old central defender (for now, at least) who joined Tottenham from his home club FC Basel in 2011, having impressed Tim Sherwood and his youth coaching staff on trial. Serbian by descent, he has represented his nation team at U17, U18 and U19 levels. After joining Spurs, Veljkovic played only a season of U18 games before being bumped up to compete in the NextGen League and last year's inaugural U21 competition.
What can he do?
Veljkovic was originally brought to the club off the back of two key attributes: his strength, and his ball-playing abilities. The mentality he displays when applying these traits is one of supreme composure- firmly but cleanly winning the ball off strikers who are often far more physical than him and occasionally 2 or 3 years older, and distributing it forwards to the waiting midfield outlets or carrying it forward to help to build positive compression play. This level-headed, elegant style of play has really made him stand out this year amongst his peers in the Spurs youth setup- traditional stoppers like Grant Hall, for example.
So refined and unerring are Veljkovic's passing abilities that towards the end of last season, John McDermott saw fit to utilise him further forward in the deepest midfield role, shielding the back four and controlling the flow of the team's play. That Milos has managed to gradually make this role his own should really tell you something about his talent considering that he was competing for a spot in a three-man midfield with passers like Thomas Carroll and Nabil Bentaleb, two of the youth players at he top of the prospective ladder, as well as more natural defensive midfielders like Giancarlo Gallifuoco.
Where can he go?
Usual caveats apply: from a youth team which steamrollered all comers last season, it's tough to pick out the players who are genuinely set to make it in a future first XI, and those who rode a wave of collectiove good form.
That said, it is believed that Veljkovic stood out almost unquestionably as having been in the former camp last year. Some have gone as far as to say that he's is a unique enough prospect to stand enough of a chance to battle his way all the way towards the Spurs first team within the next two years, even if he doesn't manage to crack into a side which is packed with defensive quality and will surely feature an upgraded midfield by the time he comes of age. His raw talent is unquestionable, but to perhaps an even greater extent is his highly impressive maturely, quietly imperious on-pitch persona, which at times leads to forgetting just how young he still is.
bit of a blow