so how much did we know about Riga before he came here ?
This "guy" deserves a chance and surely the majority of us want him to do well ? It cant be all of us as we all know there are those CAFC "fans" who are only happy when we are total dog shit.
Worries about him being able to communicate with the players ? sure and to motivate them as well,but he is what we have so "lets be having you"
But that's exactly the trouble. We know a LOT more about Luzon than we did about Riga. I really wish I didn't. But I do. That much harder to get behind him, and I'm certainly not one of those who are happy when we are shit.
Wait for the announcement that because of the late appointment he did not have time to identify targets so we will wait until the end of the season before recruiting. Meanwhile there are many 'young guns' who can save us from relegation.
Welcome Guy at last, you have 100% support from me for now, unfortunately your on a hiding for nothing from some of our support because they are a bit stupid, they would of preferred Paul Jewell!
One person, and possibly someone who can use your, you're and would have correctly. It can make you look a bit stupid.
I have Dyslexia but i can ensure you i am not stupid ignorant Pratt.
C'mon we cant insult our player of the year like that... He's clearly just back from injury after needing major surgery, needs our full support with his new look
Just hope that the lethal performer our Scarf was before the operation is still there
Whatsmore Scarfy looks nothing like an Arsenal scarf!
Theresa May can do one. Errrm OK Good luck to you Guy Luzon. You like to win, don't like to lose...well you have already lost one, so you have to win on Saturday. Good luck with that. If you lose on Saturday no more chances, you and Mr D think you're any good then prove it, don't come blathering on with excuses, legislate for all eventualities and win at Molineaux. If you're a winner I will back you all the way. 20 games left. 16 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats 0 excuses.
not who i wanted in any way, but nor was Riga and then nor was Peeters. Wanted both to do well though and got behind both, and will do exactly the same with Geee.
Still doesn't change the fact the club is evolving into not really the type of club I want it to be, but i'm as fickle as the masses and if we start winning games, well i'll soon be won round i suppose if i'm honest.
I think the problem is less that people will start off being against him than that because of the circumstances he will get cut less slack if he starts badly than any previous incumbent.
In short, he needs a win by the end of the month, I reckon, which is likely to mean beating Rotherham. Not the highest hurdle, but better not knock it over.
Ah well there we go. Got to get behind him and the team now, perhaps if all the network rigmarole had not happened, we might have been excited at employing a young manager who has had champions league experience.
There cant have been a more unpopular starting Charlton manager in history.
I mean Riga might have been at the time because all but a few fruitcakes loved Chris Powell but it seems worse this time.
I think its fair to see he needs to hit the ground running.
I was disgusted by the Dowie appointment from Day 1 and couldn't believe the amount of fans who seemed happy with it. My anger and disappointment over this appointment is probably less than that time on a pure manager Vs manager basis, but my overall feeling of disillusionment and anger is much, much higher at this appointment because its a reflection of the revolting and wider prevailing circumstances.
I can only hope he manages to take the general atmosphere and pitch it to the players as 'us vs the world', a siege mentality. The boos from their own fans and the 'wanting [their] Charlton back' chants last week WILL hurt some of those players, not all but some. Luzon's got to use that pain and anger and get these boys fighting with everything they've got. Right now, we don't need tactical master plans, we don't need ingenious formation tinkering, we don't need pretty possession football, we need players who will fight anyone and everyone for the good of the team. Win pretty, win ugly, fight hard and fight dirty, just don't give us another Watford style display of belly up chicken-shit cowardice.
I think people are more pissed off at the situation, rather that the name of the bloke who is now our manager. I expect all of us will still be right behind him and wish him well. Doesn't mean we are filled with confidence though.
This and his first game was a complete disaster, just because the official club line for legal reasons has to say this Saturday is his first game does not make it true.
Hopefully Guy learns a lot quicker then his boss from mistakes in this league or we really will be in trouble.
This Saturday is his first game though so it is true
Officially yes but only actually true if you ignore him taking training the week before the Watford game(confirmed by the club) and Damien Matthew confirming that we used Guys ideas in the first half on Saturday.
He gets a blank slate to be judged by as any individual new head coach deserves no matter how dodgy the whole hiring process was but its deluded to think he has not already had his first game just because the club now has to claim that once they realised he was not legally allowed to work for us yet.
Agree with Airman, Wolves result not critical (we all expect to lose anyway!) but a win at home to Rotherham definitely is, as we need to keep Blackpool, Millwall and Rotherham well below us. However, a better performance at Wolves will improve morale for both the players and for us.
I think the problem is less that people will start off being against him than that because of the circumstances he will get cut less slack if he starts badly than any previous incumbent.
In short, he needs a win by the end of the month, I reckon, which is likely to mean beating Rotherham. Not the highest hurdle, but better not knock it over.
He can't start off any worse than Parky can he, can he? :-0
Oh well. Now the hope of his work permit falling through has gone its time for me wish him all the luck. I still don't agree with his appointment but he is our manager/head coach now and as far as i'm concerned until he does anything to make me think otherwise i will support him because its his responsbility now to get my club playing properly and winning again.
Don't agree with him being put in charge , but I will back the team starting with Wolves away on Saturday I will be there seeing if any improvement , I actually think we will get a result but I still fear this season could go horribly wrong.
Bloody hell I bet he (Mr Luzon) secretly wished his work permit was refused if he has been reading all the nonsense about him. How, why, he got his previous jobs is irrelevant, and none of us know how or why it went "wrong" at SL, of course their fans are going to be bitter and slag him off, as we know his employer was a certain Mr Duchatelet so who knows? I understand he was doing very well at one stage and then Mr Duchatelet saw some "value" in some players and we all know what happens (especially us!!) if you lose your best players and do not replace them with quality you are going to struggle. So I think it is a bit naive and unfair to "boo" "slag off" and more importantly not support the new manager, all he has done has taken a job?? Most coaches in the world if given the opportunity to manage/coach at a club in England. I know a lot of people are unhappy at how and why he GOT the job but if we all drop our lip and not get behind him and the players what effing chance have we got of getting us out of this shite? Dont forget, it wasn't Mr Luzon that got us into this mess and if he does not get us out of it he will probably be handing his much awaited "work permit" back!! So I for one will be giving the new manager 100% support and clap him when he is introduced to the valley crowd. Booing him will do absolutely jack shit to help our plight and will also have an adverse effect on the players. No one is bigger than our club, so as I said I am fully behind our new manager. I really hope for his sake we get something out of Saturday otherwise I can see a lot of "experts" baying for blood!!
I dont even care anymore, I have this sort of nothing feeling about Charlton at the moment almost like I know where we are heading and have accepted it.
For the first time in a long while Im not booking up away trains in advance planning etc. Probably nothing a few wins cant sort out but personally it is a struggle at the moment.
Just out of interest, how have you calculated the 13 points? I look at that list and see a maximum of 8? and that will be if we play out of our skin and get a lot of luck. 2 possible wins in Rotherham & Wigan - 2 draws against Forest & Brentford. Other than that I just see defeats.
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he looks like angry mourinho after a few sunbeds and too many nights on the nosebag
Where has the Delort money gone all of a sudden??
Errrm
OK
Good luck to you Guy Luzon. You like to win, don't like to lose...well you have already lost one, so you have to win on Saturday. Good luck with that. If you lose on Saturday no more chances, you and Mr D think you're any good then prove it, don't come blathering on with excuses, legislate for all eventualities and win at Molineaux.
If you're a winner I will back you all the way.
20 games left. 16 wins, 1 draw, 3 defeats 0 excuses.
not who i wanted in any way, but nor was Riga and then nor was Peeters. Wanted both to do well though and got behind both, and will do exactly the same with Geee.
Still doesn't change the fact the club is evolving into not really the type of club I want it to be, but i'm as fickle as the masses and if we start winning games, well i'll soon be won round i suppose if i'm honest.
In short, he needs a win by the end of the month, I reckon, which is likely to mean beating Rotherham. Not the highest hurdle, but better not knock it over.
Tough task, on current evidence.
He gets a blank slate to be judged by as any individual new head coach deserves no matter how dodgy the whole hiring process was but its deluded to think he has not already had his first game just because the club now has to claim that once they realised he was not legally allowed to work for us yet.
Wolves (A)
Rotherham (H)
Middlesborough (A)
Norwich (H)
Brentford (H)
Wigan (A)
Derby (A)
Huds (H)
Forrest (H)
Cardiff (A)
Would expect 13 points, and be happy with 15
Good luck Guy.
So I think it is a bit naive and unfair to "boo" "slag off" and more importantly not support the new manager, all he has done has taken a job?? Most coaches in the world if given the opportunity to manage/coach at a club in England. I know a lot of people are unhappy at how and why he GOT the job but if we all drop our lip and not get behind him and the players what effing chance have we got of getting us out of this shite? Dont forget, it wasn't Mr Luzon that got us into this mess and if he does not get us out of it he will probably be handing his much awaited "work permit" back!!
So I for one will be giving the new manager 100% support and clap him when he is introduced to the valley crowd. Booing him will do absolutely jack shit to help our plight and will also have an adverse effect on the players. No one is bigger than our club, so as I said I am fully behind our new manager. I really hope for his sake we get something out of Saturday otherwise I can see a lot of "experts" baying for blood!!
COYR..............
Thanks Staprix!
For the first time in a long while Im not booking up away trains in advance planning etc. Probably nothing a few wins cant sort out but personally it is a struggle at the moment.