How can it be right that the owner holds the management of the club to account? How is it that a management team that secured 6 wins in 30 was under pressure? How is it possible that a new head coach secured 7 wins in 16 with exactly the same squad(less Kermorgant Stephens and Alnwick)? How is it that our form before Duchatelet took over was so bad and yet he is taking the heat for us staying up? And why did we have ten players on the books all season just released which haven't caused a murmur because they didn't play much?
When appraising Duchatelet it appears that all the network clubs are in a better position than when he took them over... Hungarian side won the cup and Spanish team in with a shout of play-offs after spell in bottom four. @se9addick has posted a link to the post Sheffield united thread which I've not opened. I really don't want to go back there! Let's all remember we were bottom of the League not so long ago with a 50% chance of going down. And Dyer was part of the set up which put us there. What has been published might be all or part of the story - I won't comment on the content or motivation as that is for the club. I would say that the piece has received an entirely different reception on into the Valley!
I think Duchatelet still has to show this can work in the Championship and perhaps we need to define what "working" means. And someone somewhere splashed a ridiculous amount of cash on Thuram and that shouldn't be a CAFC problem. But the basic idea of not paying 28 year old second rate second tier footballers 500k or even 750k per annum has some appeal. Instead get the best 17-19 year olds you can on half that money with the bonus of being able to sell them on to recoup costs. Please remember that we won more games under Duchatelet in cup and league since the takeover than we did before 5th January. He sold players for cash, we saw Poyet arrive on the scene and end up poty... Who knows whether Poyet and Gomez will stay and who knows how good the additional players recruited will be. But we get a fee if they go which helps to fund the club.
We don't need 35-40 professional players on the books. If they can add some quality and potential to the 15-20 who are already signed up for the next two years then all good. If they can't then Duchatelet is wasting his time and money. As someone else posted today ask yourselves what is his motivation for destroying value? Having said all that now might be a good time for a statement from the club!
I think you'll find that most things "receive...an entirely different reception on into the Valley"
The person who started the thread on Dyer's article on there with the title 'Dyer outburst' is 'bexleyboy' - who I believe used to post on here as colin1961 (does he still post here under another name?).
He was constantly negative about Powell but has since become a completely uncritical 'network' cheerleader....
Secondly IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE BRING IN AS THEY ARE NOT CHARLTON ATHLETIC PLAYERS IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD. They are network players. I may sound a bit romantic here but when we make a signing I like to think of him as giving his all for Charlton Athletic, the lad expecting his contracted two/three/four years with us to be spent with us and for him to grow as a Charlton player. Roland has other ideas. He's not interested in players that fit Charlton Athletic, he wants players that will fit the network and spend a bit of time with Charlton Athletic. How long are we realistically expecting any players to stay? 1 year? 2 max? If half our team is made up of players on loan/bought for nothing from S.L, then again, what a load of horse shit. I don't want a new team every year, If you're against B teams then you should be against this.
IF I MAY OFFER A NOTE OF OPTIMISM:
All players are transient. Regardless of whether the period of stay is six months or twelve years, the player in question has an affiliation with the Club and it is up to them to make the most of this. Ask any York City fan whether Nick Pope wasn't a 'York City player' in the 'truest sense of the word' and you'll probably get laughed at. I'm occasionally given to romanticisms myself but it strikes me as unhelpful to designate a 'proper Charlton player' based on arbitrary criteria of contract length, career ambition or bantz with JJ on Twitter. Ultimately, what designates a player fit for purpose is their on-field performance, with the addendum that off-field conduct also counts for plenty. Look at Ajdarevic - clearly popular in the dressing-room and effective on the field, fitness or no. If he's only spent six months at Charlton, I'd still say I very much enjoyed his time, and will regard his memory fondly. He WAS a 'proper Charlton player' in any measurable regard. I look forward to the prospect of others like him.
I'm still not convinced that we've 'lost our Club' - it is still based in Charlton, it still participates in the community, still sources local talent, still competes in tier 2. Until the entire youth system is scrapped and our first team comprises interchangeable loan signings who clearly don't give a toss (i.e. nothing like Ajdarevic), I will have faith in the Club's integrity. I find it embarrassing that so many are projecting worst-case scenarios as certainties based on one man's testimony of what was clearly a tricky transition period in which Duchatelet clearly made some strategic errors - or at least, decisions that did not appear to have much short-term sense - and showed reprehensible disrespect to a club legend.
Let's see. If Thuram returns and plays every week, throwing the ball in his own net - if Poyet and Morrison leave and are not adequately replaced - if selection decisions are consistently made that we all know to be wrong - if the dressing room doesn't gel, then we have cause for protest. HOWEVER, none of that happened under Riga, and I don't see why it would inevitably happen under Peeters. Duchatelet's project is, as far as I'm concerned, interesting, and has the potential for sustainability, which even as low as tier 2 would be quite an achievement. The cast will revolve, but the script remains the same: compete as well and as attractively as we are able in a sports entertainment industry. Sharing resources with well-coached European sides whose youths are taught to trap a ball properly strikes me as a very good way of stealing a march on some of our direct rivals.
There - a dissenting voice, but I'd noticed Grapevine49 hadn't posted yet, so I felt it was necessary.
As an addendum: Dyer wasn't treated brilliantly, and Powell downright uncouthly, but Duchatelet isn't stupid and I'd imagine he's constantly adjusting his vision for Charlton as he collects more intelligence. A couple of tests failed - a couple passed (including the most important one). Let's see how it plays.
i hear you leuth and i think it's a very noble viewpoint. Do i agree? not in the slightest. Nick Pope was never a York City player "in the truest sense of the word," he was a player on loan there for three months.
Is a player a charlton player by having 'bants on twitter with jj' - no, dependant on the length of contract - no, career ambition - no, he is a charlton athletic player when his focus is 100% on charlton and the only way he could possibly leave this club would be to be sold or released. The network is designed to "move" players around, there is a difference in there.
I completely agree that AA was a 'proper' charlton player whilst he was here, what about reza, thuram, kock, nego and PP? that's one out of five, are you happy with 20% of all players coming into the club being good enough(for 60mins)???? I am not.
As stated by others…why in the lords name would any self respecting footballer want to get involved in this 'project'??
there has been a lot of blind optimism before this AD interview and i'm sure there's a lot more head in sand burying to come but from an objective viewpoint this does not in anyway look good
I think that most of us could see what was happening and what is about to happen towards the end of last season when Yann and Stephens were sold along with no significant incomings , but the key question is...why? Why would RD put lots of dosh into 1) buying the club 2) the academy 3) Pitch, - if it all goes tits up (which is what it looks like), then RD is millions out of pocket , with a likelihood of either going into admin or being sold for a pittance with RD heavily out of pocket. maybe someone could enlighten me.
There's actually no evidence of RD investing in the academy to date. It keeps getting repeated on here, but the business plan for the development is based entirely on third-party contributions from local organisations like Greenwich University match-funding central grants. There is no capital input from RD involved in the scheme and neither did he have any input to the plans presented to the council. They were drawn up before he arrived.
Of course this may all change. The funding package may well fall apart given the individuals involved and RD has also talked about a more extensive scheme (albeit one that might struggle to get planning permission) - in either case he'll presumably have to come up with the difference if it is to be built. And perhaps he will. But at the moment the only thing he appears to have done is reduce the cost of the management structure.
J mate when did it feel like cafc of old you gotta go back some seasons
Maybe we are getting older and losing the feel only seeing it continue in the eyes of our babies
And tbh little James and Scarlett are too young for it to really be about what league we are in
James loves it for time with you and Scarlett ain't stopped talking about it and can't wait to go back
Maybe that's why I don't see the worry that some are
Maybe it's why I am willing to wait and see
But I honestly have a feeling that RD is a lucky owner don't know what it is or why but the guy is gonna get it right I can see it
The club has been a shambles for years mate , RD does he know wot he is doing , personally i dont think so , maybe im wrong , just got to the stage where i dont care anymore.
You're getting confused mate... I think it's you who wants to believe everything was fine back in early March. Just read the Sheffield united thread and apart from the condemnation of the the team selection and style of play there's the small matter of CAFC being second bottom in the form table at the time. And yet we finished with 24 points from 16 games under Riga. You can make up all the conspiracy theories you like but Duchatelet found the cheapest and most effective way to stay up and it wasn't change the squad, it was change the manager.
When's the trust sitting down with KM to discuss the strategy at the club? She said wait till the end of the season right? So is it in the process of being arranged now, what questions are being asked and how is it going to be reported back to the fans? (e.g. will there be embargoes etc.). Is it just the trust meeting her, or the G21 etc?
Knowing that she has been as good as her word would at least offer some encouragement... so can we have a status update please?
The Trust approached Katrien at the end of last week with a reminder of her promise of a meeting in the close season. She replied very promptly with an agreement to meet when she returns from her holiday. No further details about precise date or format but this should become clear in the next couple of weeks.
@seriously_red I'm not talking about early March. In early March I was of the opinion that there were big cracks in "our Charlton" that needed to be addressed. We probably differ wholly on how they were addressed.
I'm more entertained(?) by how you consistently, perhaps fanatically, rationalise every decision from every Charlton regime of the past couple of years as some positive step in a great master plan. It must be tiring.
We don't need 35-40 professional players on the books. If they can add some quality and potential to the 15-20 who are already signed up for the next two years then all good. If they can't then Duchatelet is wasting his time and money. As someone else posted today ask yourselves what is his motivation for destroying value?
That rather assumes he's doing it deliberately though. Personally I'm going with "never ascribe to malice that which can adequately explained by incompetence" (which is either Hanlon's Razor, a Napoleon quote or from someone else depending on how arsed you can be to wade through the various google results)
When Powell was sacked this was my fear. Some could not understand that it was not Powell being sacked as such that was the issue but why he was sacked and what was becoming off our club.
All them feelings and questions are back and with some proof now. I would be interested in some of the more pro RD like Yanns take on this?
Don't really know what too say, obviously hoping dyer has exaggerated the story (a lot ) it isn't good ready most of it we already knew , it seems some people are happy to be proved right on here which I find quite sad . It will now be interesting to put these quotes to Roland or katrien , I've not given up all hope because Roland has done some very good stuff so far , I'm also not going to panic to much because still hoping Roland has learned from he's mistakes if he hasn't and we start bringing in players of kocs and thurams ability then I'll be gutted because it will show which way the club is going . I'm gonna continue to back the club and hope for some good news soon with some contracts and transfers. Less optimistic yann than usual lol !
an attempted dig at me? (must try harder)
Unsurprisingly you seem to be missing the point yanny boy.
This is not an issue with the quality of players being brought in. From Dyer's interview and the sacking of CP/non renewal of Riga's contract we can expect that this season under Peeters:
1. If a player is good enough and Roland wants him to play, he will play 2. If a player is not good enough and Roland wants him to play, he will play.
If either of Roland's choices don't play then Peeters will be sacked. That is in my view a big pile of horse shit. The best players play, end of. If Roland wants to pick the team then by all means appoint himself as manager.
Secondly IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE BRING IN AS THEY ARE NOT CHARLTON ATHLETIC PLAYERS IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD. They are network players. I may sound a bit romantic here but when we make a signing I like to think of him as giving his all for Charlton Athletic, the lad expecting his contracted two/three/four years with us to be spent with us and for him to grow as a Charlton player. Roland has other ideas. He's not interested in players that fit Charlton Athletic, he wants players that will fit the network and spend a bit of time with Charlton Athletic. How long are we realistically expecting any players to stay? 1 year? 2 max? If half our team is made up of players on loan/bought for nothing from S.L, then again, what a load of horse shit. I don't want a new team every year, If you're against B teams then you should be against this.
Now some people may be happy with that and as long as we are in the premiership it won't matter. Well we are not in the premiership, no-where near infact and I am saddened by our identity being lost. Being in the premiership will not make up for that. Look at Cardiff.
I've still got my ST, it will still take me four hours each way to get to and from the valley and I will still support the team. I am just very dissapointed at how all this is turning out
Secondly IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE BRING IN AS THEY ARE NOT CHARLTON ATHLETIC PLAYERS IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD. They are network players. I may sound a bit romantic here but when we make a signing I like to think of him as giving his all for Charlton Athletic, the lad expecting his contracted two/three/four years with us to be spent with us and for him to grow as a Charlton player. Roland has other ideas. He's not interested in players that fit Charlton Athletic, he wants players that will fit the network and spend a bit of time with Charlton Athletic. How long are we realistically expecting any players to stay? 1 year? 2 max? If half our team is made up of players on loan/bought for nothing from S.L, then again, what a load of horse shit. I don't want a new team every year, If you're against B teams then you should be against this.
IF I MAY OFFER A NOTE OF OPTIMISM:
All players are transient. Regardless of whether the period of stay is six months or twelve years, the player in question has an affiliation with the Club and it is up to them to make the most of this. Ask any York City fan whether Nick Pope wasn't a 'York City player' in the 'truest sense of the word' and you'll probably get laughed at. I'm occasionally given to romanticisms myself but it strikes me as unhelpful to designate a 'proper Charlton player' based on arbitrary criteria of contract length, career ambition or bantz with JJ on Twitter. Ultimately, what designates a player fit for purpose is their on-field performance, with the addendum that off-field conduct also counts for plenty. Look at Ajdarevic - clearly popular in the dressing-room and effective on the field, fitness or no. If he's only spent six months at Charlton, I'd still say I very much enjoyed his time, and will regard his memory fondly. He WAS a 'proper Charlton player' in any measurable regard. I look forward to the prospect of others like him.
I'm still not convinced that we've 'lost our Club' - it is still based in Charlton, it still participates in the community, still sources local talent, still competes in tier 2. Until the entire youth system is scrapped and our first team comprises interchangeable loan signings who clearly don't give a toss (i.e. nothing like Ajdarevic), I will have faith in the Club's integrity. I find it embarrassing that so many are projecting worst-case scenarios as certainties based on one man's testimony of what was clearly a tricky transition period in which Duchatelet clearly made some strategic errors - or at least, decisions that did not appear to have much short-term sense - and showed reprehensible disrespect to a club legend.
Let's see. If Thuram returns and plays every week, throwing the ball in his own net - if Poyet and Morrison leave and are not adequately replaced - if selection decisions are consistently made that we all know to be wrong - if the dressing room doesn't gel, then we have cause for protest. HOWEVER, none of that happened under Riga, and I don't see why it would inevitably happen under Peeters. Duchatelet's project is, as far as I'm concerned, interesting, and has the potential for sustainability, which even as low as tier 2 would be quite an achievement. The cast will revolve, but the script remains the same: compete as well and as attractively as we are able in a sports entertainment industry. Sharing resources with well-coached European sides whose youths are taught to trap a ball properly strikes me as a very good way of stealing a march on some of our direct rivals.
There - a dissenting voice, but I'd noticed Grapevine49 hadn't posted yet, so I felt it was necessary.
As an addendum: Dyer wasn't treated brilliantly, and Powell downright uncouthly, but Duchatelet isn't stupid and I'd imagine he's constantly adjusting his vision for Charlton as he collects more intelligence. A couple of tests failed - a couple passed (including the most important one). Let's see how it plays.
The difference being the manager signed him and picked him.
After he was made available for a lower-league loan by Charlton! A player easily good enough for League 1 or 2 but not in the first-team squad - it was simply a question of which club he'd go to, not whether he'd go. What difference are you talking about? Thuram got 3 games, Nego one, Parzyszek one (well, 5 minutes). Clubs will farm out fringe players and it is up to the receiving club to determine their aptitude. Until players are picked despite being of inferior aptitude to others present, or until the playing staff is substandard in toto, there's no cause for alarm, even if Dyer thinks that such a scenario is possible. His concerns were probably brought about by Duchatelet underestimating the sorts of players you'd need at this level. I don't see that happening again, but maybe I'm too optimistic.
Anyone could tell Thuram was sub standard after one minute, yet he played for a few games.
I got back from Brasil at 6pm the night before Middlesbrough away. I was absolutely shattered going up there, jet lag and all that...............I soon f****** woke up when I saw that clown in goal
Secondly IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WE BRING IN AS THEY ARE NOT CHARLTON ATHLETIC PLAYERS IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD. They are network players. I may sound a bit romantic here but when we make a signing I like to think of him as giving his all for Charlton Athletic, the lad expecting his contracted two/three/four years with us to be spent with us and for him to grow as a Charlton player. Roland has other ideas. He's not interested in players that fit Charlton Athletic, he wants players that will fit the network and spend a bit of time with Charlton Athletic. How long are we realistically expecting any players to stay? 1 year? 2 max? If half our team is made up of players on loan/bought for nothing from S.L, then again, what a load of horse shit. I don't want a new team every year, If you're against B teams then you should be against this.
IF I MAY OFFER A NOTE OF OPTIMISM:
All players are transient. Regardless of whether the period of stay is six months or twelve years, the player in question has an affiliation with the Club and it is up to them to make the most of this. Ask any York City fan whether Nick Pope wasn't a 'York City player' in the 'truest sense of the word' and you'll probably get laughed at. I'm occasionally given to romanticisms myself but it strikes me as unhelpful to designate a 'proper Charlton player' based on arbitrary criteria of contract length, career ambition or bantz with JJ on Twitter. Ultimately, what designates a player fit for purpose is their on-field performance, with the addendum that off-field conduct also counts for plenty. Look at Ajdarevic - clearly popular in the dressing-room and effective on the field, fitness or no. If he's only spent six months at Charlton, I'd still say I very much enjoyed his time, and will regard his memory fondly. He WAS a 'proper Charlton player' in any measurable regard. I look forward to the prospect of others like him.
I'm still not convinced that we've 'lost our Club' - it is still based in Charlton, it still participates in the community, still sources local talent, still competes in tier 2. Until the entire youth system is scrapped and our first team comprises interchangeable loan signings who clearly don't give a toss (i.e. nothing like Ajdarevic), I will have faith in the Club's integrity. I find it embarrassing that so many are projecting worst-case scenarios as certainties based on one man's testimony of what was clearly a tricky transition period in which Duchatelet clearly made some strategic errors - or at least, decisions that did not appear to have much short-term sense - and showed reprehensible disrespect to a club legend.
Let's see. If Thuram returns and plays every week, throwing the ball in his own net - if Poyet and Morrison leave and are not adequately replaced - if selection decisions are consistently made that we all know to be wrong - if the dressing room doesn't gel, then we have cause for protest. HOWEVER, none of that happened under Riga, and I don't see why it would inevitably happen under Peeters. Duchatelet's project is, as far as I'm concerned, interesting, and has the potential for sustainability, which even as low as tier 2 would be quite an achievement. The cast will revolve, but the script remains the same: compete as well and as attractively as we are able in a sports entertainment industry. Sharing resources with well-coached European sides whose youths are taught to trap a ball properly strikes me as a very good way of stealing a march on some of our direct rivals.
There - a dissenting voice, but I'd noticed Grapevine49 hadn't posted yet, so I felt it was necessary.
As an addendum: Dyer wasn't treated brilliantly, and Powell downright uncouthly, but Duchatelet isn't stupid and I'd imagine he's constantly adjusting his vision for Charlton as he collects more intelligence. A couple of tests failed - a couple passed (including the most important one). Let's see how it plays.
i hear you leuth and i think it's a very noble viewpoint. Do i agree? not in the slightest. Nick Pope was never a York City player "in the truest sense of the word," he was a player on loan there for three months.
Is a player a charlton player by having 'bants on twitter with jj' - no, dependant on the length of contract - no, career ambition - no, he is a charlton athletic player when his focus is 100% on charlton and the only way he could possibly leave this club would be to be sold or released. The network is designed to "move" players around, there is a difference in there.
I completely agree that AA was a 'proper' charlton player whilst he was here, what about reza, thuram, kock, nego and PP? that's one out of five, are you happy with 20% of all players coming into the club being good enough(for 60mins)???? I am not.
As stated by others…why in the lords name would any self respecting footballer want to get involved in this 'project'??
there has been a lot of blind optimism before this AD interview and i'm sure there's a lot more head in sand burying to come but from an objective viewpoint this does not in anyway look good
You contradict yourself - you say that "he is a charlton athletic player when his focus is 100% on charlton and the only way he could possibly leave this club would be to be sold or released" but then concede that AA, a loan signing, was 'a 'proper' charlton player'.
The hit rate of signings hasn't been ideal (yet. Reza may come good more often - don't forget that besides the Leeds winner he also hit the bar twice - had they gone in we may not have lost to both Wigan and Brighton - and Parzyszek might find his touch too) but that's expected from a complete newcomer to English football. As I say, wait and see. I'd imagine the 'network' model might allow a lot more diminished-repercussion gambling on players being fit for purpose*, because the flow of mutual transfers is so much easier.
*Unless the chairman is FORCING the manager to pick substandard players, which hasn't really happened yet.
you're right......that was a bit of a contradiction (post pub posting)....i guess, as you say, we'll just have to wait and see....i'm not hopeful though
Dyer's said it. Riga's son has said it. Riga has admitted he and RD couldn't agree on the direction of the club. Powell said it in typical Powelly fashion, doing his best not to offend or alienate anyone. RD is not the man we want in charge of our football club.
Excuse me . . . but I will believe it when I see it on the SLP web site as an official announcement. We are in an age where digital technology can produce anything you wish. I would not like to think we are being mugged!!! Perhaps if anyone knows Alex Dyer they should ask him if this report is true??
I think it's natural when a club (Company) is taken over that the new owners want to do it there own way and want their own people in.
I don't think Alex Dyer is saying anything that we haven't already been gathering for ourselves over the past few months.
Alex Dyer is obviously pissed off because he has been sacked. I believe Richard Cawley knows exactly what he is doing by posting this article and he certainly isn't helping the cause of Charlton Athletic. I'm sure both he and Alex Dyer know of CL and are more than aware of the views that have been expressed on this site. Maybe that is what they are feeding into? Could this be just gossip mongering for the sake of getting a story?
It is also rather far fetched to believe that all the scouting will be done from behind the screen of a computer. Sorry, I don't buy it.
From my perspective there is really only one thing that I don't understand regarding what has gone on up to now and that is why Riga wasn't appointed as the full time manager. However, I'm assuming there are good reasons for this and I certainly don't believe it was because he wouldn't do what he was told by RD. That just wouldn't make sense. I think RD is too good a business man to cut his nose to spite his face over a petty issue that someone wouldn't be a lap dog. I just can't see that, sorry.
So, I think this article has been timed to come out on the day that Peeters has been confirmed as manager and for me it is trash newspaper stuff, designed to get a reaction, and it certainly has on here.
I'm not buying it and Bob Peeters and RD have my 100% support until I can see something tangible for myself that things are not right. I haven't seen that so far.
When's the trust sitting down with KM to discuss the strategy at the club? She said wait till the end of the season right? So is it in the process of being arranged now, what questions are being asked and how is it going to be reported back to the fans? (e.g. will there be embargoes etc.). Is it just the trust meeting her, or the G21 etc?
Knowing that she has been as good as her word would at least offer some encouragement... so can we have a status update please?
The Trust approached Katrien at the end of last week with a reminder of her promise of a meeting in the close season. She replied very promptly with an agreement to meet when she returns from her holiday. No further details about precise date or format but this should become clear in the next couple of weeks.
I think it's natural when a club (Company) is taken over that the new owners want to do it there own way and want their own people in.
I don't think Alex Dyer is saying anything that we haven't already been gathering for ourselves over the past few months.
Alex Dyer is obviously pissed off because he has been sacked. I believe Richard Cawley knows exactly what he is doing by posting this article and he certainly isn't helping the cause of Charlton Athletic. I'm sure both he and Alex Dyer know of CL and are more than aware of the views that have been expressed on this site. Maybe that is what they are feeding into? Could this be just gossip mongering for the sake of getting a story?
It is also rather far fetched to believe that all the scouting will be done from behind the screen of a computer. Sorry, I don't buy it.
From my perspective there is really only one thing that I don't understand regarding what has gone on up to now and that is why Riga wasn't appointed as the full time manager. However, I'm assuming there are good reasons for this and I certainly don't believe it was because he wouldn't do what he was told by RD. That just wouldn't make sense. I think RD is too good a business man to cut his nose to spite his face over a petty issue that someone wouldn't be a lap dog. I just can't see that, sorry.
So, I think this article has been timed to come out on the day that Peeters has been confirmed as manager and for me it is trash newspaper stuff, designed to get a reaction, and it certainly has on here.
I'm not buying it and Bob Peeters and RD have my 100% support until I can see something tangible for myself that things are not right. I haven't seen that so far.
Rob I notice you joined in September 2010, coincidentally the month that Roland decided to start a network of football clubs, plus you have visited 2130 times, coincidentally the SAME number of times that Roland has mentioned the network in press interviews.
I would suggest therefore that your cover has been blown and maybe you should stop "posting for waffles" as the RD leadership like to call their CL take over campaign. Busted.
Excuse me . . . but I will believe it when I see it on the SLP web site as an official announcement. We are in an age where digital technology can produce anything you wish. I would not like to think we are being mugged!!! Perhaps if anyone knows Alex Dyer they should ask him if this report is true??
Speaking as someone who uses Photoshop. If STVRDD's skills were that good then he would be too busy getting paid to do work and not have the spare numerous hours, nor the inclination, it would have taken to get them that perfect.
Excuse me . . . but I will believe it when I see it on the SLP web site as an official announcement. We are in an age where digital technology can produce anything you wish. I would not like to think we are being mugged!!! Perhaps if anyone knows Alex Dyer they should ask him if this report is true??
Speaking as someone who uses Photoshop. If STVRDD's skills were that good then he would be too busy getting paid to do work and not have the spare numerous hours, nor the inclination, it would have taken to get them that perfect.
The SLP always do this - they go online a few days late to try and drive sales of their physical media. To suggest the Dyer interview is fabricated because it's not online is ludicrous!!
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The person who started the thread on Dyer's article on there with the title 'Dyer outburst' is 'bexleyboy' - who I believe used to post on here as colin1961 (does he still post here under another name?).
He was constantly negative about Powell but has since become a completely uncritical 'network' cheerleader....
Is a player a charlton player by having 'bants on twitter with jj' - no, dependant on the length of contract - no, career ambition - no, he is a charlton athletic player when his focus is 100% on charlton and the only way he could possibly leave this club would be to be sold or released. The network is designed to "move" players around, there is a difference in there.
I completely agree that AA was a 'proper' charlton player whilst he was here, what about reza, thuram, kock, nego and PP? that's one out of five, are you happy with 20% of all players coming into the club being good enough(for 60mins)???? I am not.
As stated by others…why in the lords name would any self respecting footballer want to get involved in this 'project'??
there has been a lot of blind optimism before this AD interview and i'm sure there's a lot more head in sand burying to come but from an objective viewpoint this does not in anyway look good
Of course this may all change. The funding package may well fall apart given the individuals involved and RD has also talked about a more extensive scheme (albeit one that might struggle to get planning permission) - in either case he'll presumably have to come up with the difference if it is to be built. And perhaps he will. But at the moment the only thing he appears to have done is reduce the cost of the management structure.
You can make up all the conspiracy theories you like but Duchatelet found the cheapest and most effective way to stay up and it wasn't change the squad, it was change the manager.
and little James and Scarlett will be watching prem football in A few seasons
I'm more entertained(?) by how you consistently, perhaps fanatically, rationalise every decision from every Charlton regime of the past couple of years as some positive step in a great master plan. It must be tiring.
The hit rate of signings hasn't been ideal (yet. Reza may come good more often - don't forget that besides the Leeds winner he also hit the bar twice - had they gone in we may not have lost to both Wigan and Brighton - and Parzyszek might find his touch too) but that's expected from a complete newcomer to English football. As I say, wait and see. I'd imagine the 'network' model might allow a lot more diminished-repercussion gambling on players being fit for purpose*, because the flow of mutual transfers is so much easier.
*Unless the chairman is FORCING the manager to pick substandard players, which hasn't really happened yet.
It's in the thread. p3 I think. Click on the pictures. That's what everyone is commenting on.
Is it me? I have been on the SLP website. Cannot find anything relating to this article!!!!!!!!!
I don't think Alex Dyer is saying anything that we haven't already been gathering for ourselves over the past few months.
Alex Dyer is obviously pissed off because he has been sacked. I believe Richard Cawley knows exactly what he is doing by posting this article and he certainly isn't helping the cause of Charlton Athletic. I'm sure both he and Alex Dyer know of CL and are more than aware of the views that have been expressed on this site. Maybe that is what they are feeding into? Could this be just gossip mongering for the sake of getting a story?
It is also rather far fetched to believe that all the scouting will be done from behind the screen of a computer. Sorry, I don't buy it.
From my perspective there is really only one thing that I don't understand regarding what has gone on up to now and that is why Riga wasn't appointed as the full time manager. However, I'm assuming there are good reasons for this and I certainly don't believe it was because he wouldn't do what he was told by RD. That just wouldn't make sense. I think RD is too good a business man to cut his nose to spite his face over a petty issue that someone wouldn't be a lap dog. I just can't see that, sorry.
So, I think this article has been timed to come out on the day that Peeters has been confirmed as manager and for me it is trash newspaper stuff, designed to get a reaction, and it certainly has on here.
I'm not buying it and Bob Peeters and RD have my 100% support until I can see something tangible for myself that things are not right. I haven't seen that so far.
I would suggest therefore that your cover has been blown and maybe you should stop "posting for waffles" as the RD leadership like to call their CL take over campaign. Busted.